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Re: Light Railways 276

Bruce McLean
 

John,

Received your email yesterday.  Received my Light Railways at Kangaroo Flat this morning.

Something has failed somewhere with Australia Post!

Regards,
Bruce

On 26/11/2020 12:27 pm, John Dennis wrote:
The originally planned mailout date for Light Railways 276 was to be last week, but we pushed it back so we could do a traditional mailout. The magazine has now been handed over to Australia Post, so with luck Melbourne members should see it next week, those living further away it might be the week after.  It's another packed 48 page edition.
Contents of this issue are:
- The Luggage Point Tramway, Brisbane – Part 1
- Memories of Garratts on Tasmania’s West Coast
- Looking Back - South Australian miscellany
- Light Railways 276 – a milestone...
- Wilmar 40 tonne locomotive upgrades
- Book Review - In the Shadow of the Prom
Plus the usual Field Reports, Letters and Heritage & Tourist News, with the back cover displaying a couple of photos of the AIS Nebo Colliery
If you are not a member pick it up at your local newsagent, or buy online from https://shop.lrrsa.org.au/Light-Railways-No276-December-2020 - available in printed and PDF format.



Light Railways 276

John Dennis
 

The originally planned mailout date for Light Railways 276 was to be last week, but we pushed it back so we could do a traditional mailout. The magazine has now been handed over to Australia Post, so with luck Melbourne members should see it next week, those living further away it might be the week after.  It's another packed 48 page edition.
Contents of this issue are:
- The Luggage Point Tramway, Brisbane – Part 1
- Memories of Garratts on Tasmania’s West Coast
- Looking Back - South Australian miscellany
- Light Railways 276 – a milestone...
- Wilmar 40 tonne locomotive upgrades
- Book Review - In the Shadow of the Prom
Plus the usual Field Reports, Letters and Heritage & Tourist News, with the back cover displaying a couple of photos of the AIS Nebo Colliery
If you are not a member pick it up at your local newsagent, or buy online from https://shop.lrrsa.org.au/Light-Railways-No276-December-2020 - available in printed and PDF format.


Re: Death of John Prideaux

Frank Stamford
 

Thank you Roderick for passing on that sad news.

John Prideaux was Hon. Treasurer of LRRSA for three years from July 1967 to June 1970.

He was also a member of the Constitution Committee which wrote a new constitution for the Society in April - May 1969.

John was a member of the committee at a very difficult time when there were strong differences of opinion and a constitution which was not very helpful.

He was a rock of stability, common sense and reliability. Without his presence on the Committee at that time the Society may not have survived. His contribution to the Society at that time cannot be underestimated.

Regards,
Frank

On 11/11/2020 12:30 pm, Roderick Smith via groups.io wrote:
News has arrived via google group Trams Down Under of John's death, aged 75, apparently after a long illness.
He had been a long-serving LRRSA treasurer.

Enlosed: A photo of John enjoying an LRRSA tour of Cheetham Geelong, in March 1969.
690301Sa-19-CheethamGeelong-JohnPrideaux-RSmith.jpg

Roderick





Death of John Prideaux

Roderick Smith
 

News has arrived via google group Trams Down Under of John's death, aged 75, apparently after a long illness.
He had been a long-serving LRRSA treasurer.

Enlosed: A photo of John enjoying an LRRSA tour of Cheetham Geelong, in March 1969.
690301Sa-19-CheethamGeelong-JohnPrideaux-RSmith.jpg

Roderick


Re: Carnarvon

John Dennis
 

On Tue, 3 Nov 2020, 9:44 am Bob Backway, <bob_backway@...> wrote:
No, Carnarvan played a part as well. "The Dish" was fiction based on fact. Both places were used.

Bob Backway, Belgrave Hts, Victoria, Australia
Commodore, Lake Eyre Yacht Club   LakeEyreYC.com


Re: Carnarvon

Bob Backway
 

No, Carnarvan played a part as well. "The Dish" was fiction based on fact. Both places were used.

Bob Backway, Belgrave Hts, Victoria, Australia
Commodore, Lake Eyre Yacht Club   LakeEyreYC.com


Re: Carnarvon

denis.wasley
 

From Wikipedia

Carnarvon has had three tramways.[3]

  • The first, shown on a Public Works Department map of 1884, ran from a landing site on the river, across Olivia Terrace to a shed on the other side of the road - A very short tramway indeed. The trolley used on this tramway was supposed to be hand powered, using a lever attached to crank on two of the wheels. However, there is a reference to the use of wind-power.
  • The second tramway, constructed between 1886 and 1887, ran west from Olivia Terrace in a straight line to the jetty, which was halfway between Mangrove Point and Conspicuous Clump. It was horse drawn.
  • The third, and partially remaining, tramway was completed on 9 November 1900. It runs from the townsite, across Babbage Island to the deep-sea jetty. It was constructed with a rail gauge of 2 feet (610 mm). It was 2 miles 5 chains (3.3 km) long. Due to the heavy loads of wool being carried on what was a very light railway, it was decided to convert the tramway to 3 feet 6 inches (1,070 mm) gauge in 1908–09. This tramway was worked with a steam locomotive. The tramway ceased operation in 1965.

The Carnarvon Light Railway Association operated trains along restored tracks on the jetty; however, due to unsafe conditions the jetty is now closed to the public.

From 1964 to 1965, 12 sounding rockets were launched from Carnarvon to a maximum altitude of 120 km.[8]

During the 1960s, NASA set up a tracking station nearby to support the Gemini and Apollo space programs. The tracking station was closed in the mid-1970s. Only the foundations of the historical site remain. The site is adjacent to the OTC Satellite Earth Station Carnarvon.

 

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephen Cox
Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 1:47 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Carnarvon

 

Carnarvon played an important, but little-known, role in the space race. In 1964 it was home to the largest tracking station outside mainland USA, which was key to NASA’s manned moon project. The tracking station is now decommissioned, but its critical part in the moon landing is remembered at the Carnarvon Space and Technology Museum. 

I think this was the Parkes Observatory radio telescope. If so it's part in the moon landing was covered in a movie called "The Dish", starring Sam Neill.

For more on this see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dish

 

The movie was pretty flexible with the facts as in never spoil a good story with the facts.  The Honeysuckle Creek station broadcast covered the initial transmission from the moon including the first steps onto the surface.

 

You may care to check out https://www.honeysucklecreek.net/Apollo_11/A11_Dinn.html for the movie errors written by Mike Dinn, who was the Operations Supervisor at Honeysuckle Creek at the time.

 

 

Regards,

 

Stephen Cox

Canberra AUS


Re: Carnarvon

Stephen Cox
 

Carnarvon played an important, but little-known, role in the space race. In 1964 it was home to the largest tracking station outside mainland USA, which was key to NASA’s manned moon project. The tracking station is now decommissioned, but its critical part in the moon landing is remembered at the Carnarvon Space and Technology Museum. 

I think this was the Parkes Observatory radio telescope. If so it's part in the moon landing was covered in a movie called "The Dish", starring Sam Neill.

For more on this see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dish

 
The movie was pretty flexible with the facts as in never spoil a good story with the facts.  The Honeysuckle Creek station broadcast covered the initial transmission from the moon including the first steps onto the surface.
 
You may care to check out https://www.honeysucklecreek.net/Apollo_11/A11_Dinn.html for the movie errors written by Mike Dinn, who was the Operations Supervisor at Honeysuckle Creek at the time.
 
 
Regards,
 
Stephen Cox
Canberra AUS


Re: Carnarvon

B.Rumary
 

On 01/11/2020 01:24, Roderick Smith via groups.io wrote:
Carnarvon played an important, but little-known, role in the space race. In 1964 it was home to the largest tracking station outside mainland USA, which was key to NASA’s manned moon project. The tracking station is now decommissioned, but its critical part in the moon landing is remembered at the Carnarvon Space and Technology Museum. 

I think this was the Parkes Observatory radio telescope. If so it's part in the moon landing was covered in a movie called "The Dish", starring Sam Neill.

For more on this see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dish

-- 
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk


Carnarvon

Roderick Smith
 

Roderick Smith

Escape to Carnarvon, Western Australia: The town that played a surprising role in the NASA moon landing JUL 25, 2020
Carnarvon jetty, built in the 1890s, is credited with kicking off the town’s horticultural industry, opening the town to markets down south. The One Mile Jetty once hosted thousands of visitors, including many who rode the tourist train up and down its planks. Sadly it is now in a state of disrepair and closed in 2017.
Carnarvon played an important, but little-known, role in the space race. In 1964 it was home to the largest tracking station outside mainland USA, which was key to NASA’s manned moon project. The tracking station is now decommissioned, but its critical part in the moon landing is remembered at the Carnarvon Space and Technology Museum. 
The town is also a gateway to one of the world’s largest monolith at Mount Augustus, and the Kennedy Range national park, home to the spectacular Honeycomb Gorge.
<www.domain.com.au/news/escape-to-carnarvon-western-australia-the-town-that-played-a-surprising-role-in-the-nasa-moon-landing-965274>

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Re: The Australian Light Railway Compendium

Iain
 

Bob it might be on interest to your group that the All Australian Tracks dataset by Hairylegs (2018) has mapped many tramways and industrial lines would be a good asset for your project to access if you haven’t already.

 

Cheers

 

Dr Iain Stuart

 

P.O. Box 2397

Burwood North, 2134

NSW, Australia

 

Ph (02) 97010191

Mb 0413 380116

 

Iain_Stuart@...

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Backway
Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2020 10:31 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] The Australian Light Railway Compendium

 

Ian,

On the login page of the site is a button "View Site as Guest". This allows you to enter most parts of the site to see what's being made available for use by members. Once you have registered then you can add and edit data. Also as a viewer you may choose to click help and read the manual describing each part of the site.

 

Registration is necessary so misuse of the site can be tracked. For example you, as a registered LRRSA member, can add internet links to a particular location or motive power. An unscrupulous individual might advertise their illegal services here. With the ability to track them I can then ban them for missuse.

 

I have entered some data that is already available to members so they can see how it can be made more friendly. Have a play.

 

Of course the true value will be realised once members contribute a little time to expand the data with their own knowledge/experience/links etc.

 

Some LRRSA members have been providing feedback and improvements are being made.

 

Cheers,

 

Bob Backway, Belgrave Hts, Victoria, Australia
Commodore, Lake Eyre Yacht Club   LakeEyreYC.com


Re: The Australian Light Railway Compendium

Bob Backway
 

Ian,
On the login page of the site is a button "View Site as Guest". This allows you to enter most parts of the site to see what's being made available for use by members. Once you have registered then you can add and edit data. Also as a viewer you may choose to click help and read the manual describing each part of the site.

Registration is necessary so misuse of the site can be tracked. For example you, as a registered LRRSA member, can add internet links to a particular location or motive power. An unscrupulous individual might advertise their illegal services here. With the ability to track them I can then ban them for missuse.

I have entered some data that is already available to members so they can see how it can be made more friendly. Have a play.

Of course the true value will be realised once members contribute a little time to expand the data with their own knowledge/experience/links etc.

Some LRRSA members have been providing feedback and improvements are being made.

Cheers,

Bob Backway, Belgrave Hts, Victoria, Australia
Commodore, Lake Eyre Yacht Club   LakeEyreYC.com


Re: The Australian Light Railway Compendium

David Halfpenny
 

Ian,

In general, you’re right to be suspicious of any link sent without explanation: spoofing a mate’s email address is all too easy.

Having said that, this one looks not merely Pukka, but Interesting :-)

David 1/2d

On 27 Oct 2020, at 21:10, Eddie Oliver <eoliver@...> wrote:

On 28/10/2020 06:56, Iain wrote:
Bob,
 
I am just a little hazy on the details as the link leads me to a page wanting me to log in whereas I would like more detail on what it is you are doing.
 

you can 'view site as a guest'






Re: The Australian Light Railway Compendium

Eddie Oliver
 

On 28/10/2020 06:56, Iain wrote:

Bob,

 

I am just a little hazy on the details as the link leads me to a page wanting me to log in whereas I would like more detail on what it is you are doing.

 


you can 'view site as a guest'





Re: The Australian Light Railway Compendium

Iain
 

Bob,

 

I am just a little hazy on the details as the link leads me to a page wanting me to log in whereas I would like more detail on what it is you are doing.

 

Cheers

 

Dr Iain Stuart

 

P.O. Box 2397

Burwood North, 2134

NSW, Australia

 

Ph (02) 97010191

Mb 0413 380116

 

Iain_Stuart@...

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Backway
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 10:50 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: [LRRSA] The Australian Light Railway Compendium

 

A Covid Lockdown project for the benefit of the Light Railway community... https://lakeeyreyc.com/LRCompendium/


The Australian Light Railway Compendium

Bob Backway
 

A Covid Lockdown project for the benefit of the Light Railway community... https://lakeeyreyc.com/LRCompendium/


Re: Caribbean Gardens (Scoresby, Vic.)

Grant Maloney
 

Hello,
Has the society ever done a feature on this railway

Grant


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of Roderick Smith via groups.io <rnveditor@...>
Sent: Sunday, 4 October 2020 7:37 PM
To: lrrsa@groups.io <lrrsa@groups.io>
Subject: [LRRSA] Caribbean Gardens (Scoresby, Vic.)
 
The 610 mm gauge railway was quite major.
The lack had a paddleboat from Ballarat, which was repatriated.
The chairlift came from Whistlestop (Frankston)

"150705Su-DSCF0944-ScoresbyMelbourneVic.-CaribbeanGardens-MalcolmMoore-RSmith-ss.jpg" 
"150705Su-DSCF0939-ScoresbyMelbourneVic.-CaribbeanGardens-maintrain-RSmith-ss.jpg" 

Roderick

'Sad time': Much-loved Melbourne market closes after 55 years July 1, 2020
Caribbean Gardens in Melbourne's east will close its doors to the public after 55 years in operation, with management citing the dire financial circumstances wrought by the pandemic for the closure of the much-loved attraction.
The 40-hectare market and garden area located in Scoresby, in the foothills of the Dandenongs, closed due to public health restrictions at the onset of the pandemic.
In a Facebook post on Wednesday evening – which attracted more than 5000 comments, many of them expressing deep sadness – the business announced the closure would be permanent.
"COVID-19 forced the suspension of the market for the very first time in its history and has now been confirmed closed for the foreseeable future. As a privately-run market in these current circumstances it is simply unviable to reopen," the post said.
"Whilst no immediate plans are in place to replace the market lands, they do form part of a 500-acre future masterplan.
"Although this is a hard decision and a sad time we must celebrate the market's achievement and thank each and every customer, stallholder, visitor and staff for their partnership and for making Caribbean Market the icon it became."
The market, which opened in 1965 and is owned by the wealthy Spooner family, has been visited by 40 million visitors since its establishment, according to its owners.
It included a market that sold a variety of unique products and amusements aimed at children including a mini-golf course, a train around its perimeter, a jungle boat ride around Lake Caribbean, and a chairlift.
A 2013 report by the Motion Picture Association of America identified Caribbean Gardens as one of the most notorious hotspots for the sale of pirated DVDs.
The report said the market had between 10 and 20 individual market sellers "offering counterfeit region one and two DVDs, together with other sellers offering burnt DVDs of recently released titles".
The site, nestled between Stud Road in the east, Ferntree Gully Road to the north and EastLink freeway in the west, was originally used by a handful of stallholders selling from their car boots and for water ski shows on the lake.
More recently, it had more than 1000 stallholders and thousands poured through the eye-catching front gates on Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays.
<www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/sad-time-much-loved-melbourne-market-closes-after-55-years-20200701-p55878.html>







Re: Caribbean Gardens (Scoresby, Vic.)

Roderick Smith
 

Roderick

Market is gone after 55 years
Thurs.2.7.20 Melbourne 'Herald Sun'
EASTERN suburbs institution Caribbean Market has been forced to shut for good after 55 years.
Management made the announcement on its website confirming the Scoresby market — including the rides and playgrounds — would not be reopening after the forced COVID-19 suspension earlier this year. But the Caribbean Rollerama would reopen.
“Today, management confirmed the closure of its iconic Caribbean Market,” the post said.
“Unfortunately, as a privately-run market under the current circumstances it is unviable to reopen.”
The post said while no immediate plans had been put in place to replace the market, the land was part of a 200ha future masterplan.
“Established in the 1970s, Caribbean Market has welcomed over 40 million visitors and for decades has been the benchmark for family fun and entertainment,” the post said.
“Although this is a hard decision and a sad time, we must celebrate the market’s achievement and thank each and every customer, stall holder, visitor and staff for their partnership and for making Caribbean Market the icon it became.”
On its Facebook page fans and stall holders of the popular market have begged for it to reopen.
Caribbean Gardens and Market site has been owned by the Spooner family since 1942, and was originally used as a dairy farm.
In 1966 they developed an outdoor activity park, then a decade later opened the market, starting with fruit and vegetable stalls.
Over the years, waterski shows have been held at the lake with rides and attractions.


Caribbean Gardens (Scoresby, Vic.)

Roderick Smith
 

The 610 mm gauge railway was quite major.
The lack had a paddleboat from Ballarat, which was repatriated.
The chairlift came from Whistlestop (Frankston)

"150705Su-DSCF0944-ScoresbyMelbourneVic.-CaribbeanGardens-MalcolmMoore-RSmith-ss.jpg" 
"150705Su-DSCF0939-ScoresbyMelbourneVic.-CaribbeanGardens-maintrain-RSmith-ss.jpg" 

Roderick

'Sad time': Much-loved Melbourne market closes after 55 years July 1, 2020
Caribbean Gardens in Melbourne's east will close its doors to the public after 55 years in operation, with management citing the dire financial circumstances wrought by the pandemic for the closure of the much-loved attraction.
The 40-hectare market and garden area located in Scoresby, in the foothills of the Dandenongs, closed due to public health restrictions at the onset of the pandemic.
In a Facebook post on Wednesday evening – which attracted more than 5000 comments, many of them expressing deep sadness – the business announced the closure would be permanent.
"COVID-19 forced the suspension of the market for the very first time in its history and has now been confirmed closed for the foreseeable future. As a privately-run market in these current circumstances it is simply unviable to reopen," the post said.
"Whilst no immediate plans are in place to replace the market lands, they do form part of a 500-acre future masterplan.
"Although this is a hard decision and a sad time we must celebrate the market's achievement and thank each and every customer, stallholder, visitor and staff for their partnership and for making Caribbean Market the icon it became."
The market, which opened in 1965 and is owned by the wealthy Spooner family, has been visited by 40 million visitors since its establishment, according to its owners.
It included a market that sold a variety of unique products and amusements aimed at children including a mini-golf course, a train around its perimeter, a jungle boat ride around Lake Caribbean, and a chairlift.
A 2013 report by the Motion Picture Association of America identified Caribbean Gardens as one of the most notorious hotspots for the sale of pirated DVDs.
The report said the market had between 10 and 20 individual market sellers "offering counterfeit region one and two DVDs, together with other sellers offering burnt DVDs of recently released titles".
The site, nestled between Stud Road in the east, Ferntree Gully Road to the north and EastLink freeway in the west, was originally used by a handful of stallholders selling from their car boots and for water ski shows on the lake.
More recently, it had more than 1000 stallholders and thousands poured through the eye-catching front gates on Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays.
<www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/sad-time-much-loved-melbourne-market-closes-after-55-years-20200701-p55878.html>


LRRSA Zoom entertainment meeting - 8 October 2020

Frank Stamford
 
Edited

On Thursday 8 October at 8.30 pm Australian Eastern Daylight Saving Time (8.00pm in SA; 7.30pm in Qld; 5.30pm in WA; 0930 UTC) the LRRSA will be holding an online meeting via Zoom. It will go for about 60 to 90 minutes, but you will be free to leave at any time.

 

After a brief introduction giving news of LRRSA activities Tony Weston will be giving a presentation describing the narrow gauge railways in north western Spain including current extensive metre gauge operations and four railway museums.

You do not need to be a member of the LRRSA to attend this meeting. It is open to anyone anywhere in the world. To participate you will need to register your interest, which is easy at our website lrrsa.org.au and clicking "Zoom in".

 

Before the entertainment meeting the LRRSA will be holding its Annual General Meeting at 8.00pm Daylight Saving Time. This will be open to LRRSA members only. Members can register to attend this at our website lrrsa.org.au and clicking "Zoom in". Members registering to attend the entertainment meeting will automatically be registered to attend the AGM.

 

Attendees to either meeting will need to pre-register at lrrsa.org.au preferably no later than Tuesday 6 October at which time the meeting invitations will be emailed. Registration after that date may be accepted, but is not guaranteed. Pre-registrations will not be accepted after 5pm on the day of the meeting. In order to speed up the AGM, the President’s and Financial reports, minutes of the previous AGM, and the Agenda will be available soon from the website at lrrsa.org.au/ar2020.htm

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