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Re: Corrimal mine

Hunslet
 

Thanks for including me in your email to Rod.

Interesting discussion.

Why not put up your photos?

Cheers,

Pete.

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of John Garaty
Sent: Tuesday, 1 September 2020 10:58 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Corrimal mine

 

[Edited Message Follows]


My suspicion is that the 1902 photo relied heavily on some darkroom "fudging". See the initial 1892 photo of G.S.Yuill's takeover sign.

The bolt holes and shadow of the timber uprights that held the sign could still be seen on the Corrimal portal in 2013. (File P1010691a)

And here's our attempt at the sign, (sign modelled by Geoff Potter) as part of our Corrimal Colliery Incline layout. (File 1240452a)

Provided that It doesn't put too many noses out of joint, I could put up a photo album of some parts of the model and some of the research (a lot of it was LRRSA-based, LR60 being one of the key sources of information for the model)

Regards,
John Garaty 


Re: Corrimal mine

John Garaty
 
Edited

Hi Roderick, all,
Mining started at the Brookers Nose Colliery sometime in the late 1860's as indicated in the Illawarra Coal Minebase link. The sign was actually at the later Daylight Mine, about a mile further south at what became Corrimal Colliery after Brookers Nose closed in the early 1900's. 

The Canberra Times photo is a cropped photo of the original shown in the Illawarra Coal Minebase link. That link is at present the most complete collection of information about Corrimal Colliery. Although initially written with primarily a mining focus, key dates relating to the coal transport systems used have been added. 

My suspicion is that the 1902 photo relied heavily on some darkroom "fudging". See the initial 1892 photo of G.S.Yuill's takeover sign.

The bolt holes and shadow of the timber uprights that held the sign could still be seen on the Corrimal portal in 2013. (File P1010691a)

And here's our attempt at the sign, (sign modelled by Geoff Potter) as part of our Corrimal Colliery Incline layout. (File 1240452a)

Provided that It doesn't put too many noses out of joint, I could put up a photo album of some parts of the model and some of the research (a lot of it was LRRSA-based, LR60 being one of the key sources of information for the model)

Regards,
John Garaty 


Re: Corrimal mine

rthorne475
 

Dear Ross,

John Hyett has provided the answer: an error by the painter!

Cheers,

Richard

On Monday, 31 August 2020, 12:22:22 BST, Ross Mainwaring <rossmainwaring@...> wrote:


Hi Richard,

I contacted the local coal historian about the date 1802 but it has him baffled. This date is way too early for any coal mining  beginnings down that way. He is going to make enquires for me. Perhaps the date is wrong???? Should be 1902.
The workmen appear to be just a normal shift, not necessarily anything special.
Ross


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From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of rthorne475 via groups.io <rthorne475@...>
Sent: Monday, 31 August 2020 6:40 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <lrrsa@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Corrimal mine
 
Ross,

That's pretty obvious, but what is the relevance of Sept 1st, 1802?  And what is the occasion?

Cheers,

Richard

On Monday, 31 August 2020, 08:54:43 BST, Ross Mainwaring <rossmainwaring@...> wrote:


Hi Roderick,

This is the entrance (very ornate) to the coal mine at Corrimal. It was a most unique entrance to the transport tunnel

Regards,
Ross Mainwaring

> On 31 Aug 2020, at 2:31 pm, Roderick Smith via groups.io <rnveditor=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what this was illustrating.
>
> 200608M-'CanberraTimes'-Illawarra-mine.jpg
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> Roderick
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> <200608M-'CanberraTimes'-Illawarra-mine.jpg>




Re: Corrimal mine

Ross Mainwaring
 

Hi Richard,

I contacted the local coal historian about the date 1802 but it has him baffled. This date is way too early for any coal mining  beginnings down that way. He is going to make enquires for me. Perhaps the date is wrong???? Should be 1902.
The workmen appear to be just a normal shift, not necessarily anything special.
Ross


Sent from Outlook


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of rthorne475 via groups.io <rthorne475@...>
Sent: Monday, 31 August 2020 6:40 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <lrrsa@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Corrimal mine
 
Ross,

That's pretty obvious, but what is the relevance of Sept 1st, 1802?  And what is the occasion?

Cheers,

Richard

On Monday, 31 August 2020, 08:54:43 BST, Ross Mainwaring <rossmainwaring@...> wrote:


Hi Roderick,

This is the entrance (very ornate) to the coal mine at Corrimal. It was a most unique entrance to the transport tunnel

Regards,
Ross Mainwaring

> On 31 Aug 2020, at 2:31 pm, Roderick Smith via groups.io <rnveditor=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what this was illustrating.
>
> 200608M-'CanberraTimes'-Illawarra-mine.jpg
>
> Roderick
>
>
>
> <200608M-'CanberraTimes'-Illawarra-mine.jpg>




Re: Corrimal mine

JH
 

It probably should read 1902. On the 1st September 1902 the Corrimal Balgownie Collieries took over the mine from The Southern Coal Company https://www.illawarracoal.com/minebase/minebase-a-c/129-corrimal-colliery.html

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of rthorne475 via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 31 August 2020 6:41 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Corrimal mine

 

Ross,

 

That's pretty obvious, but what is the relevance of Sept 1st, 1802?  And what is the occasion?

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

 

On Monday, 31 August 2020, 08:54:43 BST, Ross Mainwaring <rossmainwaring@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Roderick,

This is the entrance (very ornate) to the coal mine at Corrimal. It was a most unique entrance to the transport tunnel

Regards,
Ross Mainwaring

> On 31 Aug 2020, at 2:31 pm, Roderick Smith via groups.io <rnveditor=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what this was illustrating.
>
> 200608M-'CanberraTimes'-Illawarra-mine.jpg
>
> Roderick
>
>
>
> <200608M-'CanberraTimes'-Illawarra-mine.jpg>



Re: Corrimal mine

rthorne475
 

Ross,

That's pretty obvious, but what is the relevance of Sept 1st, 1802?  And what is the occasion?

Cheers,

Richard

On Monday, 31 August 2020, 08:54:43 BST, Ross Mainwaring <rossmainwaring@...> wrote:


Hi Roderick,

This is the entrance (very ornate) to the coal mine at Corrimal. It was a most unique entrance to the transport tunnel

Regards,
Ross Mainwaring

> On 31 Aug 2020, at 2:31 pm, Roderick Smith via groups.io <rnveditor=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what this was illustrating.
>
> 200608M-'CanberraTimes'-Illawarra-mine.jpg
>
> Roderick
>
>
>
> <200608M-'CanberraTimes'-Illawarra-mine.jpg>




Re: Corrimal mine

Ross Mainwaring
 

Hi Roderick,

This is the entrance (very ornate) to the coal mine at Corrimal. It was a most unique entrance to the transport tunnel

Regards,
Ross Mainwaring

On 31 Aug 2020, at 2:31 pm, Roderick Smith via groups.io <rnveditor=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:

I'm not sure what this was illustrating.

200608M-'CanberraTimes'-Illawarra-mine.jpg

Roderick



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Corrimal mine

Roderick Smith
 

I'm not sure what this was illustrating.

200608M-'CanberraTimes'-Illawarra-mine.jpg

Roderick


"In the Shadow of the Prom" last few days of pre-publication price!

Frank Stamford
 

Last few days!
A reminder that the LRRSA’s new book “In the Shadow of the Prom”, by Mike McCarthy, is available to LRRSA members at a 40% discount price of $39.60 until 30 August. For non-members a reduced price of $55.00 applies until 30 August. Postage on one or two copies within Australia is $15.00. From 31 August the price will be $66.00 ($49.50 for LRRSA members).
In the Shadow of the Prom is a history of the railways and tramways and their importance to the early settlement of south Gippsland from Foster to the Mullungdung forest north-east of Yarram.
It includes extensive details and maps of numerous tramways, which provided transport from the coast before the coming of the South Gippsland Railway. The 2 ft gauge steam operated Goodwood tramway from Port Albert is covered in detail, as is the 2 ft 6 in gauge Victorian Railways Port Welshpool line.
The illustrations, including photographs, maps and diagrams are some of the best to be produced so far in an LRRSA publication.
In the Shadow of the Prom is available here:
https://shop.lrrsa.org.au/In-the-Shadow-of-the-Prom


Poverty Point bridge

Roderick Smith
 

Roderick

Deteriorating walking bridge shut for repair
Sun.31.5.20 Melbourne 'Herald Sun' 
A HISTORIC walking bridge in Gippsland has been closed after it was deemed in urgent need of repair.
Parks Victoria this week shut the popular Walhalla Tramway Bridge — also known as Poverty Point Bridge — at Walhalla over fears it was a “serious risk of imminent breakdown”.
A recent review of the structure, built in 1900, revealed upgrades were urgently needed — including new steelwork and other structural upgrades. It is understood the works could take many months.
A Parks Victoria spokesman said an alternative route would still be available for hikers to continue exploring the area.
The bridge also forms part of the Australian Alps Walking Track, which stretches for more than 650km through the alpine regions of Victoria, NSW and the ACT, making access critical as tourism starts to return to the area.
“To ensure visitor safety the Walhalla Tramway Bridge has been temporarily closed while necessary repair works are considered following the findings of a recent condition report,” the spokesman said.
“As a key part of the Australian Alps Walking Track, Parks Victoria understands the importance of the area to visitors and is pleased that walkers can continue on their journeys via an alternative route.”
The popular spot is a significant part of Victoria’s history, having formerly been used as part of gold mining operations in the Gippsland area.
The bridge closed to mining in 1944 but has remained a popular walking track and tourist destination for decades.

 [late 70s: it was a lost mystery for years.  I found it twice by scrub bashing, including a section wading up the river on the second try, 1975.  My companions did walk across on the girders; I didn't.  I also visited when it became part of the trail, and was decked and fenced, 1981, an LRRSA exploration weekend].


Re: Wed.19.8 zoom

Frank Stamford
 

The organisers of the meeting will shortly be reviewing everything about the meeting, what went well and what needs improving. This will include the way the link is sent to people who have registered to attend the meeting. We will be considering all the feedback we have received from those who attended, and those who were unable to attend.

Regards,
Frank 


Re: Wed.19.8 zoom

Roderick Smith
 

How was the reply given to the advance email: manually or automated?
Why even have the requirement?
I had expected automated at 21.15, with the meeting still in progress.
My aviation club is leading the field with frequency, variety and convenience.  The link is sent out in advance, and we are on our honour not to share it with nonmembers.
My boating clubs come in second.  The link is sent out in advance, and we are welcome to share with members of kindred clubs.
My mother's nursing home comes in third.  The link is sent out in advance.
SRSV has had one online meeting.  The link was sent out in advance.
LRRSA had the right idea, but with unnecessary convolution.

Has this one been recorded, and is available online?  My aviation and boat clubs do that, as does a railway youtuber with his topic presentations. 

Roderick


Re: Wed.19.8 zoom

Rob Bushby
 

In my case I received and responded to the issue file. It loaded the meeting in my calender ok but then the email with the zoom details disappeared. Fortunately I found it hiding in the deleted files folder so resurrected it OK.

I really enjoyed the meeting. Congrats to Mike for a job well done. Some real head scratchers in Franks presentation. I hope you do it again. It gives members away from the main centres a chance to interact and put names to faces.

Well done and many thanks,

Rob Bushby
Tarcoola, Tasmania.


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of Michael McCarthy <mike.mccarthy51@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 12:31:28 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Wed.19.8 zoom
 

That’s interesting and puzzling! Most had no issue but some did.

Floyd would you mind forwarding to me either the email you received and/or a screen shot of it please.  A few others have said the same thing. 

My email is mike.mccarthy51@....

 

Cheers,

Mike

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> On Behalf Of Floyd Bromley
Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2020 11:14 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Wed.19.8 zoom

 

The link was sent out in the form of a .ics file (calendar file). Perhaps next time it would be good if the link was also sent out in just a plain email (not inside a file). 

 

Thanks, Floyd. 



On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:45, Warren Munson <joandwarren@...> wrote:

Hi Frank,

 

Many thanks for helping me to get Zoom going on my Apple iMAC before the meeting.   The key was installing "Zoom for Safari” (not regular Zoom) from the App Store.

 

However, I never received any meeting notification.   When I registered for training that should have included the meeting, but unfortunately did not.   Hopefully will be able to attend next Zoom meeting for LRRSA.

 

Regards,

    Warren Munson



On 19 Aug 2020, at 11:41 pm, Geoff <geoffwinkler@...> wrote:

 

Hi Roderick,
You were not the only one who missed out, I forgot to register too.
Geoff Winkler.

 


Re: Wed.19.8 zoom

Stephen Cox
 


FYI, my invite came up as a meeting request in my mail client, Outlook 2003.  I accepted it and the event went in my Outlook Calendar.  The event description in the calendar had all the detail that was needed to access the meeting, which I did.  Hope this helps to understand what is was like at the receiver's end.
 
Living in CCanberra, this was only the 3rd Melbourne meeting I was able to partake in.  The other two were many years ago when I happened to be in Melbourne for work on separate occasions.  I found the Zoom meeting very worthwhile.
 
Thanks,
 
Stephen Cox 


From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael McCarthy
Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2020 12:31
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Wed.19.8 zoom

That’s interesting and puzzling! Most had no issue but some did.

Floyd would you mind forwarding to me either the email you received and/or a screen shot of it please.  A few others have said the same thing. 

My email is mike.mccarthy51@....

 

Cheers,

Mike

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> On Behalf Of Floyd Bromley
Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2020 11:14 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Wed.19.8 zoom

 

The link was sent out in the form of a .ics file (calendar file). Perhaps next time it would be good if the link was also sent out in just a plain email (not inside a file). 

 

Thanks, Floyd. 



On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:45, Warren Munson <joandwarren@...> wrote:

Hi Frank,

 

Many thanks for helping me to get Zoom going on my Apple iMAC before the meeting.   The key was installing "Zoom for Safari” (not regular Zoom) from the App Store.

 

However, I never received any meeting notification.   When I registered for training that should have included the meeting, but unfortunately did not.   Hopefully will be able to attend next Zoom meeting for LRRSA.

 

Regards,

    Warren Munson



On 19 Aug 2020, at 11:41 pm, Geoff <geoffwinkler@...> wrote:

 

Hi Roderick,
You were not the only one who missed out, I forgot to register too.
Geoff Winkler.

 


Re: Wed.19.8 zoom

Bruce Wood
 

G’day Mike,
 
I have sent you a personal email showing the email advice I received. You will see that the formatting of the message was very poor, and when this email was received, it was not immediately clear to me the purpose of this email, and consequently I did not attend the webinar.
 
Best regards
Bruce Wood
 

From: Michael McCarthy
Sent: 20 August, 2020 12:31 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Wed.19.8 zoom
 

That’s interesting and puzzling! Most had no issue but some did.

Floyd would you mind forwarding to me either the email you received and/or a screen shot of it please.  A few others have said the same thing. 

My email is mike.mccarthy51@....

 

Cheers,

Mike

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> On Behalf Of Floyd Bromley
Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2020 11:14 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Wed.19.8 zoom

 

The link was sent out in the form of a .ics file (calendar file). Perhaps next time it would be good if the link was also sent out in just a plain email (not inside a file).

 

Thanks, Floyd.



On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:45, Warren Munson <joandwarren@...> wrote:

Hi Frank,

 

Many thanks for helping me to get Zoom going on my Apple iMAC before the meeting.   The key was installing "Zoom for Safari” (not regular Zoom) from the App Store.

 

However, I never received any meeting notification.   When I registered for training that should have included the meeting, but unfortunately did not.   Hopefully will be able to attend next Zoom meeting for LRRSA.

 

Regards,

    Warren Munson



On 19 Aug 2020, at 11:41 pm, Geoff <geoffwinkler@...> wrote:

 

Hi Roderick,
You were not the only one who missed out, I forgot to register too.
Geoff Winkler.

 


Re: Wed.19.8 zoom

Rowan Kinnane
 

Hello everyone. 


I am very sorry that I wasn’t able to make it to the meeting last night, I had a few things come up but I would love to attend the next Zoom meeting in the future. 


Best wishes 

Rowan. 


Re: Wed.19.8 zoom

Michael McCarthy
 

That’s interesting and puzzling! Most had no issue but some did.

Floyd would you mind forwarding to me either the email you received and/or a screen shot of it please.  A few others have said the same thing. 

My email is mike.mccarthy51@....

 

Cheers,

Mike

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> On Behalf Of Floyd Bromley
Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2020 11:14 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Wed.19.8 zoom

 

The link was sent out in the form of a .ics file (calendar file). Perhaps next time it would be good if the link was also sent out in just a plain email (not inside a file). 

 

Thanks, Floyd. 



On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:45, Warren Munson <joandwarren@...> wrote:

Hi Frank,

 

Many thanks for helping me to get Zoom going on my Apple iMAC before the meeting.   The key was installing "Zoom for Safari” (not regular Zoom) from the App Store.

 

However, I never received any meeting notification.   When I registered for training that should have included the meeting, but unfortunately did not.   Hopefully will be able to attend next Zoom meeting for LRRSA.

 

Regards,

    Warren Munson



On 19 Aug 2020, at 11:41 pm, Geoff <geoffwinkler@...> wrote:

 

Hi Roderick,
You were not the only one who missed out, I forgot to register too.
Geoff Winkler.

 


Re: Wed.19.8 zoom

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Warren,
 
Very sorry to hear that. Your name and email address were definitely included in the invitation to the meeting email which was sent out on Monday night. Maybe it ended up in your Junk folder, or maybe got lost somewhere.
 
On the whole the event seemed to have gone well, but there were glitches which we expected as we have never done this before.
 
The organisers will shortly be having a post-mortem on the event to examine the problems, and yours will be on the list. I think it means that in future we will have to send out a follow-up email after the invitation to make sure everybody received it.
 
Regards,
Frank


Re: Wed.19.8 zoom

Frank Stamford
 


Thank you very much Floyd.

I think you might be right. The organisers will discuss it at our post mortem meeting.

Regards,
Frank


On 20/08/2020 11:14 am, Floyd Bromley wrote:
The link was sent out in the form of a .ics file (calendar file). Perhaps next time it would be good if the link was also sent out in just a plain email (not inside a file). 

Thanks, Floyd. 

On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:45, Warren Munson <joandwarren@...> wrote:

 Hi Frank,

Many thanks for helping me to get Zoom going on my Apple iMAC before the meeting.   The key was installing "Zoom for Safari” (not regular Zoom) from the App Store.

However, I never received any meeting notification.   When I registered for training that should have included the meeting, but unfortunately did not.   Hopefully will be able to attend next Zoom meeting for LRRSA.

Regards,
    Warren Munson

On 19 Aug 2020, at 11:41 pm, Geoff <geoffwinkler@...> wrote:

Hi Roderick,
You were not the only one who missed out, I forgot to register too.
Geoff Winkler.



Re: Wed.19.8 zoom

John Dennis
 

I was surprised to see an ics too. I shall pass this onto Mike.

John

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 11:27 am Floyd Bromley, <floyd.bromley@...> wrote:
The link was sent out in the form of a .ics file (calendar file). Perhaps next time it would be good if the link was also sent out in just a plain email (not inside a file). 

Thanks, Floyd. 

On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:45, Warren Munson <joandwarren@...> wrote:

Hi Frank,

Many thanks for helping me to get Zoom going on my Apple iMAC before the meeting.   The key was installing "Zoom for Safari” (not regular Zoom) from the App Store.

However, I never received any meeting notification.   When I registered for training that should have included the meeting, but unfortunately did not.   Hopefully will be able to attend next Zoom meeting for LRRSA.

Regards,
    Warren Munson

On 19 Aug 2020, at 11:41 pm, Geoff <geoffwinkler@...> wrote:

Hi Roderick,
You were not the only one who missed out, I forgot to register too.
Geoff Winkler.

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