Re: Pyrmont CSR


Thanks Tony and I am very thankful!!


That accounts for all four of the former carriage underframe LCT wagons listed in the 1936 NSWGR Carrying Capacity of Goods Wagons, Coal Hoppers, Horse Boxes, Carriage and Motor Trucks.  Jackpot!!!


Also of interest are the years of 1920 and 1911.  Crabbes Creek started in 1921 which accounts for 1920 and 1911 shows cane from the earlier areas was still active with volumes requiring three new wagons or replacements for older stock.  


Thanks again!

Peter Cokley


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Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Pyrmont CSR


In the book "Coaching Stock of the NSWGR" by Cooke, Estell, Beckhaus and Seckhold, there is mention of the 22ft bodied, 11ft 6in wheelbase 4 wheeled carriages built in 1881 by Moyes & Donald in Wickham, Newcastle for use on the Northern system. Second Class car 52N (later various renumberings in different years as 289, 654 and finally 289A) ended up as condemned at Lismore in 1912. The book then says this carriage ".. Lay idle there for 8 years until 1920 when it was ordered to be converted into a Cane Truck".


Also, there are mention of the Ritchie Cars of 1883 (21ft body, 11' wb), and again quoting from the book: ".. A number of the longest surviving in Passenger Service ended their days on the isolated Tweed Railway, headquartered at Lismore. Two of these had their underframes used as Cane Trucks...". (69N condemned 8/10, converted 1911, and 74N also condemned 8/10, converted 1911). 


The Hudson built cars (21ft body, 11'6" wb) of 1885 shows 1st class car No.86 also being condemned at Lismore in Aug 1910 and the underframe being converted in 1911 to Cane Truck.


The 4 wheel Cane Trucks were it seems NOT built using segments of longer bogie passenger underframes, but built on actual 4wh underframes to give 24' 6" over buffers. 52N, 69N, 74N and 86 were the only specific references I could find to conversion to Cane Truck, but there are other numerous 4 wheeled Carriages that show their final end as "Unknown" that could also have been utilised.



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