Re: Geeveston/Hopetoun electric loco
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As far as I'm aware, the only 3'6" gauge Tasmanian industrial line that used a trolleypole electric lcoo was the Mt Bischoff Tin Mining Co. Photos at Mt Bischoff show only the Baldwin-Westinghouse loco of 1906, a very substantial machine and quite unlike the Russell Allport loco. However this (and the two Beyer, Peacock 0-4-0ST locos) used the same close-set buffers and hook coupling as the Russell Allport machine. Although Mt Bischoff had c1906 two 1'4" gauge Weymouth trolleypole electric mining locos, could it also have had 3'6" gauge mining locos? The Russell Allport locos certainly appear as if built for mine work (low profile and no cab).
This is just a thought, and I must stress that there is no evidence to suggest the locos were at Mt Bischoff, rather the contrary. For instance, why buy just one and not three locos from Baldwin? Still, if it were the case, and Greg's supposition is correct, clearly it would have been much easier to trial a loco at Hastings, rather than on the West Coast.
From: "gsjohnston9@... [LRRSA]"
Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2015, 13:52
Subject: RE:Re: [LRRSA] Geeveston/Hopetoun electric loco
To provide a bit more supposition I would suggest Hastings.
Russell Allport supplied electrical equipment to John Hay's Hastings mill in July 1904.
The pier appears to be too wide for Geeveston. I think the background fits Hastings as well.
From: ajcoen@... [LRRSA]
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Geeveston/Hopetoun electric loco
Good posed photo., James. Note the chocks under the wagon wheels!
It?s certainly a Russell Allport product ? the name is stamped on the underframe.
As for where and when it is, that?s difficult. I had never heard of this machine before, but I provide the following comments:
a.. The gauge appears to be 3?6?;
b.. The closely-spaced buffers replicate those on the Kennedy-built log-hauler loco. that worked on Tyler?s 3?6? gauge Tramway at Ida Bay. There was no electricity there and the jetty was not very wide;
c.. There are stacks of floor boards and 4x4 beams on the pier/wharf. They could indicate end products from Huon Timber Coy?s. Mill at Whale Pt., Geeveston, where there was ample electricity.
May I suggest that this is a photo. of a trial run of an electric loco. The overhead appears to be a temporary set-up. The background is similar and close enough to the pier to be HTC?s port and as already stated, electricity was available at the nearby large mill. The loco. may have been ordered for a mining show, but I don?t recognize it from any Tasmanian workings except that it is similar to the early Cornwall Coal Coy. underground engine. There is always the possibility of it being used as shunting engine between HTC?s mill and the pier head, but again, no evidence of that occurring has been sighted. A 3?6? gauge line ran along the pier, but no loco. has been photographed working on it. Additionally, the pier always seemed to be cluttered with timber and which suggested trolley wagon use prevailed.
All supposition on my part, James, but I have no other ideas. Hope somebody can shed some light.
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:55 AM
Subject: [LRRSA] Geeveston/Hopetoun electric loco
I'm after a bit more info on the loco shown in the following link. Pretty certain it was built by Allport in Hobart but not sure when or which railway.