Re: Kiama tramway


From information that I have, all three steam tram motors were scrapped in
1938, but I have no idea in which month(s).

Tram motor 11A was sent to Railways Bombo Quarry, ex-Newcastle, in December

Tram motor 53A was sent to Railways Bombo Quarry, ex-Newcastle, in May 1927

Tram motor 118A was sent to Railways Bombo Quarry, ex-Newcastle, in November

It is interesting to note that these would have steamed from Newcastle to
Sydney to Bombo under their own power, but the usual maximum speed was 4
m.p.h., especially through points and crossings due to the tramway profile
wheels, which would have made for a VERY long travel time indeed…!

From my knowledge of the Weekly Notices, there is nothing in them for the
periods in question, as they stopped giving transfer info for steam trams in
them around 1917.

As you say, more for the bigger picture.

Bruce Rankin

From: [] On Behalf
Of saundersbruce78
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:16 PM
Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Kiama tramway

Further to the comments on Bombo Railway Quarry I can confirm that the three
steam trams were in service at Bombo by a document containing fusible plug
change records being boiler numbers 11A, 53A,118A. The dates in service(at
least the fusible plugs were being changed was from April 1927 till August
1929 then shows out of service from then till the document finishes December

Also Vulcan locomotive 1022 was on loan to Bombo November/December 1927.Then
to Enfield Then back to Bombo Quarry May 1931 till December 1931.

Vulcan Locomotive 1023 from January 1928 till August 1928 then out of
service at Bombo before being transferred back to Thirroul as spare.Then to
Enfield before back to Bombo for April 1931 only.

It would be interesting to know if there are any documents showing
locomotive transfers or weekly notices etc for this time period.It would
also be interesting to find out when these steam trams were eventually
scrapped. It all adds to the bigger picture.
Bruce Saunders

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richard horne <rthorne475@...> wrote:

Further to my previous comments on the Kiama quarry's internal combustion
locos, I've now spoken to Bruce Macdonald. He confirms that on a visit to
the quarry c1947, there were traces of standard gauge track in the upper
quarry (further along Terralong Street, to the west of the quarry in which
the 2'0" gauge locos worked). It was several hundred yards from the quarry
face to the crusher so he felt it was quite plausible that a (standard
gauge) loco was used,

Bruce said that there were two standard gauge Purcell/Caldwell Vale i.c.
locos used at Minnamurra Quarry on the South Coast, so one could conceivably
have ended up at Kiama. Bruce discovered one of this pair 'quite recently'
(i.e. about 40 years ago!) among the junk in the quarryman's yard of Cleary
Bros., Bombo.

Re the standard gauge quarry line at Kiama, using ex NSWGT steam tram
locos, that Mark refers to, there were in fact two such operations. They
were not actually in Kiama, but just to the north at Bombo. The Bombo Old
State Quarry used ex NSWGT motors 51A and 54A. The Bombo Railway Quarry
used ex NSWGT motors 11A, 53A and 118A (originally 17, then N20), as well as
NSWGR Vulcan Iron Works 0-4-0ST 1218 (later 1023).

Although Bruce has some works photographs and other information on Gibson
Battle, he has no record of all the i.c. locos produced, nor knowledge of
where or if any company records survive.

Richard Horne.

--- On Wed, 17/11/10, Mark Kendrick <trainbrain@...> wrote:

From: Mark Kendrick <trainbrain@...>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Kiama tramway
To: <>
Date: Wednesday, 17 November, 2010, 10:28



Just further to the original query, in case this detail was missed,

there was more than one tramway in the Kiama area. Aside from the well

known ~2' gauge tram, one was standard gauge between another quarry and

wharf and used an ex NSWGT steam tram motor, perhaps others. What gauge

was used at Avon Dam?


Mark K

On 13/11/2010 4:16 PM, Neville Conder wrote:

Afternoon all
Been visiting the local museum in Kiama today and have a query.
It had a list of locomotives that worked on the tramway and the time
they were there. A interesting one was as follows: 1927, Gibson Battle,
petrol electric Ex Avon Dam, built in April 1921.

I thought I knew a lot about the tramway but this a new one for me. Does
anyone have any information on this loco. Did it actual work on the tramway.

Any information would be appreciated.
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