Re: Mornington Peninsular railways

David Axup

G'day John,

Thanks for the information. It seems the small trolley on the Rye Pier was
a lot older than I thought.

The lime traffic had well and truly finished when I moved to Rye with my
parents in 1946.

There were the remains of two lime kilns that I personally visited in the
'50s. One at Boneo with a small line accessing Port Phillip and it appears
on Ordnance Survey Maps of the 1920s and the remains of the right of way and
some wheels still there in the very early '50s. There is another out off
Browns Road which you can still access but I don't know if it had a rail

I am not sure about the wood issue. That part of the Peninsula had large
coastal Banksia trees and was covered in Coastal T-tree neither of which I
would have thought would be any good for the lime industry.

There is a wreck off Rye pier of one of the small coastal vessels used to
transport the lime to Melbourne and Geelong. As kids we knew about it and
occasionally could see bits of what we thought were part of the wreck. I
have the name of it somewhere.

I can find no photos or further particulars of the Boneo Lime Kiln and line.

There are the remains of a lime kiln on the beach at Portsea.



From: [] On Behalf
Of Peterson, John J
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2010 10:40 PM
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Re: Mornington Peninsular railways

Hello all,

David; Re; Rye.The main photo shows a horse drawn wagon on the jetty with
small wood log loaded crosswise on the wagon sugar cane style. The caption
reads "Loading wood on Rye pier". Wood is being loaded from a boat onto the
wagon [or maybe the other way?]. The article says that the main early
industry of Rye was lime which was burnt in a number of kilms around Rye. So
the implication might be wood was brought in via boat and the railway and
bagged lime the other way. Might also mean that wood was exported but seems
an involved and expensive way to send firewood. It doesn't say when the lime
industry finished. In SA jetty lines the fishermen took over once the main
use of the jetty declined so maybe a similar pattern here.

Hard to tell gauge from the photos, particularly ones with no people in it
because of the light weight rail used.



From: <> on
behalf of David R Axup
Sent: Sat 17/04/2010 11:12 AM
To: <>
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Re: Mornington Peninsular railways

G'day John,

I grew up in Rye in the late 40's and through the 50's.

I cannot help with Dromana Pier or the Sorrento Tramway. Didn't go to
Dromana that often and the Sorrento Tramway was gone by the time we moved to
Rye in '46 after my father came out of the 2nd AIF.

The track on the Rye pier had one hand propelled trolley which was used by
the local fishermen [one of whom was my father] to move boxes of fish and
gear out to the two landings on the pier. There was also a shed on the
seaward end of the pier which the fishermen used to store gear and which was
locked. Obviously the local fishermen had keys. The trolley was also
chained and locked with access by the fishermen and Ports and Harbours
people and used to cart materials out to or from the shed. On at least one
occasion it was used to carry inert passengers back out to the end of the
pier for transfer to RIP after a heavy session in the Rye pub.

The shed was also occasionally used by the Ports and Harbours vessel RIP, an
ex-WW2 Corvette, for the storage of items.



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On Behalf
Of John Cleverdon
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2010 9:39 AM
To: <>
Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Mornington Peninsular railways

Hello all,
I wasn't able to get a copy of the issue with the Dromana and Rye piers,
and the Sorrento tramway (I'll check with the local historical society).

However, a newsagent at Mornington had a copy with the Westernport side
of the Peninsula, including photos from the Stony Point and Red Hill lines.

FYI, a book published by the local historical society (Dromana and
District Historical Society) - /A Dreamtime of Dromana/ - a few years
back has a few photos of the old (replaced 1950's) pier at Dromana,
showing the rails that ran along this pier. I think this was just a
manual/horse-powered trolley?
Looking at these photos, I'm also guessing that the gauge was wider than

John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria
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