Morse Test #Exam #CW #Licensing


Keith EI5KO
 

Dave,

Is there a time limit on the Morse exam/qualification?

To obtain a class 1 licence the participant must have also passed the Radio Theory Exam and the Morse test.

if someone does the Morse test first and then delays doing the Radio Theory exam or does not pass at the first attempt does the Morse test qualification have a time limit?

Curious as in the past most would have done the Class 2 then Class 1, but the trend now is to do both together.

Keith
EI5KO


Dave EI4BZ
 

Hi Keith,
It's an issue that has not arisen but based on the fact the HAREC cert does not expire, I am sure the CW qualification does not expire either.
There have been several incidences in recent times of licences being issued to people who passed the exam many years ago and never bothered applying for a licence at the time.
Great to see an increased interest in CW!

73
Dave EI4BZ



On 25 Mar 2022, at 14:58, Keith EI5KO <keith.ei5ko@...> wrote:

Dave,

Is there a time limit on the Morse exam/qualification?

To obtain a class 1 licence the participant must have also passed the Radio Theory Exam and the Morse test.

if someone does the Morse test first and then delays doing the Radio Theory exam or does not pass at the first attempt does the Morse test qualification have a time limit?

Curious as in the past most would have done the Class 2 then Class 1, but the trend now is to do both together.

Keith
EI5KO



Eamonn EI7LC
 

I'm wondering (something those of you with "A" licenses might be able to tell), would a successful result be recorded in any way on my comreg account, the same way that HAREC certification would be recorded?
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73 de Eamonn EI1910


Dave EI4BZ
 

The answer is yes Eamonn.

On 26 Mar 2022, at 22:23, Eamonn EI1910 via groups.io <eamo.gannon@...> wrote:

I'm wondering (something those of you with "A" licenses might be able to tell), would a successful result be recorded in any way on my comreg account, the same way that HAREC certification would be recorded?
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73 de Eamonn EI1910


Keith EI5KO
 

Hi Dave

It’s great to see more learning CW and hats off to those doing both the HAREC and Morse test at the same time. 

It’s interesting that you say that the HAREC never expires.
There is a requirement that a licence confirms their details to Comreg every 5 years to maintain their licence status.  


The reason I asked the question in the first place is that their is a perception that a 2 letter call sign will be issued to a candidate on passing the Morse test irrespective of whether they have passed the HAREC.

This is not the case.

You must have passed the Class 2 exam before a Class 1 licence can be applied for irrespective of whether you have passed the Morse test or not.

This came up in conversation lately so I just want clarity. 


Regards
keith
EI5KO


Rafal EI6LA
 

Keith,

The HAREC certificate is valid indefinitely, at present. It entitles to holder to apply for an  amateur station licence in CEPT signatory countries in accordance with T/R 61-01. This, of course, includes Ireland, where the HAREC qualification is a requirement for obtaining both the CEPT Class 1 and CEPT Class 2 licence. To obtain CEPT Class 1 licence one also has to pass the ComReg-accepted Morse telegraphy proficiency test, currently administered by IRTS. Indeed, you cannot obtain a CEPT Class 1 Amateur Station Licence without a valid HAREC certificate.

The 5 year requirement, as set by ComReg in 09/45 is not a limit of a validity of a licence or of any qualifications and related certificates. It is an obligation to “confirm with ComReg their details, such as their address and contact details, every 5 years”. On a technicality, ComReg may revoke a licence if you do not confim your data every 5 years, but, strictly speaking, the licence is issued for the lifetime of the holder. It is a bit of a regulatory fudge, but works well as long as you act every 5 years. :)
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73 Rafal EI6LA


Keith EI5KO
 

Thanks Rafal,

You just confirmed what I stated.

The 5 year confirmation is there to ensure a  licence is still active or “alive”. 😀

if you don’t confirm Comreg may revoke your licence.

Although a passed exam entitles you to a licence/call sign there is this misconception that your call sign lasts forever.


73 de EI5KO
Keith. 


Ger McNamara EI4GXB <ei4gxb@...>
 

You are quite correct Keith.
73
Ger.


On Sun 27 Mar 2022, 13:06 Keith EI5KO, <keith.ei5ko@...> wrote:

Thanks Rafal,

You just confirmed what I stated.

The 5 year confirmation is there to ensure a  licence is still active or “alive”. 😀

if you don’t confirm Comreg may revoke your licence.

Although a passed exam entitles you to a licence/call sign there is this misconception that your call sign lasts forever.


73 de EI5KO
Keith.