Great gray owl is still at Montour


John Shortis
 

...and was still there yesterday (Sunday) PM.

John Shortis

On Friday, January 1, 2021, 06:48:29 PM MST, Louisa Evers <elouisa603@...> wrote:


At least one great gray remains in the vicinity of the Montour Road-Main Street intersectionLE4_2309.jpg


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Louisa Evers
elouisa603@...


Ken Miracle
 

:-) a number of us were there Saturday afternoon and did not find it … how dare those birds have wings and move around and hide from us.



On Jan 4, 2021, at 7:41 AM, John Shortis via groups.io <john_shortis@...> wrote:

...and was still there yesterday (Sunday) PM.

John Shortis

On Friday, January 1, 2021, 06:48:29 PM MST, Louisa Evers <elouisa603@...> wrote:


At least one great gray remains in the vicinity of the Montour Road-Main Street intersection<LE4_2309.jpg>


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Louisa Evers
elouisa603@...
<LE4_2309.jpg>

Ken Miracle
chukar28@...
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5


Tom & Susan Soniville
 

Thanks to some kind guidance from an IBLEer, we were able to see the Great Gray yesterday. It was a great treat. If you are out that way, don’t miss all the other raptors in the area. We saw a Kestrel, a Sharp-Shinned hawk, multiple Red Tails, at least one Harrier, and what I believe is an immature Golden Eagle. A Harrier and the eagle were involved in some aerial jousting. I would appreciate any feedback on whether this is a Golden or a Bald. We also saw an adult Bald between Sweet and Ola.

 

Combine that with great weather and some kind people and was a wonderful day.

 

Tom Soniville

West Bench Boise

 

From: IBLE@groups.io <IBLE@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Miracle via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 8:01 AM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Great gray owl is still at Montour

 

:-) a number of us were there Saturday afternoon and did not find it … how dare those birds have wings and move around and hide from us.

 

 



On Jan 4, 2021, at 7:41 AM, John Shortis via groups.io <john_shortis@...> wrote:

 

...and was still there yesterday (Sunday) PM.

 

John Shortis

 

On Friday, January 1, 2021, 06:48:29 PM MST, Louisa Evers <elouisa603@...> wrote:

 

 

At least one great gray remains in the vicinity of the Montour Road-Main Street intersection<LE4_2309.jpg>


--

Louisa Evers

elouisa603@...

<LE4_2309.jpg>

 

Ken Miracle
chukar28@...
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5

 


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Tom Soniville
Boise. North End


Ken Miracle
 

With that much white on the wings and tail at this time of year I would think it is an immature Bald Eagle. There is a good side by side in the air here.


On Jan 6, 2021, at 10:04 AM, Tom & Susan Soniville <tomnsueid@...> wrote:

Thanks to some kind guidance from an IBLEer, we were able to see the Great Gray yesterday. It was a great treat. If you are out that way, don’t miss all the other raptors in the area. We saw a Kestrel, a Sharp-Shinned hawk, multiple Red Tails, at least one Harrier, and what I believe is an immature Golden Eagle. A Harrier and the eagle were involved in some aerial jousting. I would appreciate any feedback on whether this is a Golden or a Bald. We also saw an adult Bald between Sweet and Ola. 
 
Combine that with great weather and some kind people and was a wonderful day.
 
Tom Soniville
West Bench Boise
 
From: IBLE@groups.io <IBLE@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Miracle via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 8:01 AM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Great gray owl is still at Montour
 
:-) a number of us were there Saturday afternoon and did not find it … how dare those birds have wings and move around and hide from us.
 
 


On Jan 4, 2021, at 7:41 AM, John Shortis via groups.io <john_shortis@...> wrote:
 
...and was still there yesterday (Sunday) PM.
 
John Shortis
 
On Friday, January 1, 2021, 06:48:29 PM MST, Louisa Evers <elouisa603@...> wrote:
 
 
At least one great gray remains in the vicinity of the Montour Road-Main Street intersection<LE4_2309.jpg>


-- 
Louisa Evers
<LE4_2309.jpg>
 
Ken Miracle
chukar28@...
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5
 


-- 
Tom Soniville
Boise. North End<DSC_1256.jpg><DSC_1237.jpg>

Ken Miracle
chukar28@...
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5


Tom & Susan Soniville
 

Ken,

 

Thanks for the pictures, I had not known about the wing patches from other pictures I looked at.

 

Tom

 

From: IBLE@groups.io <IBLE@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Miracle via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2021 10:26 AM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Great gray owl is still at Montour

 

With that much white on the wings and tail at this time of year I would think it is an immature Bald Eagle. There is a good side by side in the air here.

 

 

On Jan 6, 2021, at 10:04 AM, Tom & Susan Soniville <tomnsueid@...> wrote:

 

Thanks to some kind guidance from an IBLEer, we were able to see the Great Gray yesterday. It was a great treat. If you are out that way, don’t miss all the other raptors in the area. We saw a Kestrel, a Sharp-Shinned hawk, multiple Red Tails, at least one Harrier, and what I believe is an immature Golden Eagle. A Harrier and the eagle were involved in some aerial jousting. I would appreciate any feedback on whether this is a Golden or a Bald. We also saw an adult Bald between Sweet and Ola. 

 

Combine that with great weather and some kind people and was a wonderful day.

 

Tom Soniville

West Bench Boise

 

From: IBLE@groups.io <IBLE@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Miracle via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 8:01 AM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Great gray owl is still at Montour

 

:-) a number of us were there Saturday afternoon and did not find it … how dare those birds have wings and move around and hide from us.

 

 




On Jan 4, 2021, at 7:41 AM, John Shortis via groups.io <john_shortis@...> wrote:

 

...and was still there yesterday (Sunday) PM.

 

John Shortis

 

On Friday, January 1, 2021, 06:48:29 PM MST, Louisa Evers <elouisa603@...> wrote:

 

 

At least one great gray remains in the vicinity of the Montour Road-Main Street intersection<LE4_2309.jpg>


-- 

Louisa Evers

<LE4_2309.jpg>

 

Ken Miracle
chukar28@...
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5

 


-- 
Tom Soniville
Boise. North End
<DSC_1256.jpg><DSC_1237.jpg>

 

Ken Miracle
chukar28@...
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5

 


--
Tom Soniville
Boise. North End


Dave & Brenda Pace
 

Tom,
 
Some very knowledgeable raptor ID people shared with me many years ago that if there is any white in the birds wing pits it is an immature Bald Eagle.  Immature goldens can have white out on their wings but never in their wing pits.  In your second photo with the smaller raptor coming in inline and behind the eagle you can see the white wing pits very well. 
 
On a side note the other bird looks more like a Red-Tail to me than a harrier with the dark leading edges on his wings and the belly band.
 
Seems like the white wing pits cue isn’t well known so I thought I would share what I had learned.
 
Dave Pace
Idaho Falls, ID
 

From: Tom & Susan Soniville
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2021 10:04 AM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Great gray owl is still at Montour
 

Thanks to some kind guidance from an IBLEer, we were able to see the Great Gray yesterday. It was a great treat. If you are out that way, don’t miss all the other raptors in the area. We saw a Kestrel, a Sharp-Shinned hawk, multiple Red Tails, at least one Harrier, and what I believe is an immature Golden Eagle. A Harrier and the eagle were involved in some aerial jousting. I would appreciate any feedback on whether this is a Golden or a Bald. We also saw an adult Bald between Sweet and Ola.

 

Combine that with great weather and some kind people and was a wonderful day.

 

Tom Soniville

West Bench Boise

 

From: IBLE@groups.io <IBLE@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Miracle via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 8:01 AM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Great gray owl is still at Montour

 

:-) a number of us were there Saturday afternoon and did not find it … how dare those birds have wings and move around and hide from us.

 

 



On Jan 4, 2021, at 7:41 AM, John Shortis via groups.io <john_shortis@...> wrote:

 

...and was still there yesterday (Sunday) PM.

 

John Shortis

 

On Friday, January 1, 2021, 06:48:29 PM MST, Louisa Evers <elouisa603@...> wrote:

 

 

At least one great gray remains in the vicinity of the Montour Road-Main Street intersection<LE4_2309.jpg>


--

Louisa Evers

elouisa603@...

<LE4_2309.jpg>

 

Ken Miracle
chukar28@...
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5

 


--
Tom Soniville
Boise. North End


Ken Miracle
 

Good pointer on ID of the Bald Eagle.

I never even looked at the hawk … your correct … dark pataglia and there is actually a belly band all that point to a Red-tailed Hawk.

On Jan 6, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Dave & Brenda Pace <dbpace@q.com> wrote:

Tom,
 
Some very knowledgeable raptor ID people shared with me many years ago that if there is any white in the birds wing pits it is an immature Bald Eagle.  Immature goldens can have white out on their wings but never in their wing pits.  In your second photo with the smaller raptor coming in inline and behind the eagle you can see the white wing pits very well.  
 
On a side note the other bird looks more like a Red-Tail to me than a harrier with the dark leading edges on his wings and the belly band.
 
Seems like the white wing pits cue isn’t well known so I thought I would share what I had learned.
 
Dave Pace
Idaho Falls, ID
 
From: Tom & Susan Soniville
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2021 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Great gray owl is still at Montour
 
Thanks to some kind guidance from an IBLEer, we were able to see the Great Gray yesterday. It was a great treat. If you are out that way, don’t miss all the other raptors in the area. We saw a Kestrel, a Sharp-Shinned hawk, multiple Red Tails, at least one Harrier, and what I believe is an immature Golden Eagle. A Harrier and the eagle were involved in some aerial jousting. I would appreciate any feedback on whether this is a Golden or a Bald. We also saw an adult Bald between Sweet and Ola. 
 
Combine that with great weather and some kind people and was a wonderful day.
 
Tom Soniville
West Bench Boise
 
From: IBLE@groups.io <IBLE@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Miracle via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 8:01 AM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Great gray owl is still at Montour
 
:-) a number of us were there Saturday afternoon and did not find it … how dare those birds have wings and move around and hide from us.
 
 


On Jan 4, 2021, at 7:41 AM, John Shortis via groups.io <john_shortis@...> wrote:
 
...and was still there yesterday (Sunday) PM.
 
John Shortis
 
On Friday, January 1, 2021, 06:48:29 PM MST, Louisa Evers <elouisa603@...> wrote: 
 
 
At least one great gray remains in the vicinity of the Montour Road-Main Street intersection<LE4_2309.jpg>


-- 
Louisa Evers
<LE4_2309.jpg>
 
Ken Miracle
chukar28@...
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5
 


-- 
Tom Soniville
Boise. North End 

Ken Miracle
chukar28@...
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5


Tom & Susan Soniville
 

Thanks to all of you for the education. I had no idea there was such a thing as wing pits. I wondered about the smaller raptor being a red tail, but it seemed too white underneath. I may just go back to small, medium and large for classifying raptors.

Tom Soniville


-------- Original message --------
From: "Ken Miracle via groups.io" <chukar28@...>
Date: 1/6/21 6:36 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Great gray owl is still at Montour

Good pointer on ID of the Bald Eagle.

I never even looked at the hawk … your correct … dark pataglia and there is actually a belly band all that point to a Red-tailed Hawk.

On Jan 6, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Dave & Brenda Pace <dbpace@q.com> wrote:

Tom,
 
Some very knowledgeable raptor ID people shared with me many years ago that if there is any white in the birds wing pits it is an immature Bald Eagle.  Immature goldens can have white out on their wings but never in their wing pits.  In your second photo with the smaller raptor coming in inline and behind the eagle you can see the white wing pits very well.  
 
On a side note the other bird looks more like a Red-Tail to me than a harrier with the dark leading edges on his wings and the belly band.
 
Seems like the white wing pits cue isn’t well known so I thought I would share what I had learned.
 
Dave Pace
Idaho Falls, ID
 
From: Tom & Susan Soniville
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2021 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Great gray owl is still at Montour
 
Thanks to some kind guidance from an IBLEer, we were able to see the Great Gray yesterday. It was a great treat. If you are out that way, don’t miss all the other raptors in the area. We saw a Kestrel, a Sharp-Shinned hawk, multiple Red Tails, at least one Harrier, and what I believe is an immature Golden Eagle. A Harrier and the eagle were involved in some aerial jousting. I would appreciate any feedback on whether this is a Golden or a Bald. We also saw an adult Bald between Sweet and Ola. 
 
Combine that with great weather and some kind people and was a wonderful day.
 
Tom Soniville
West Bench Boise
 
From: IBLE@groups.io <IBLE@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Miracle via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 8:01 AM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Great gray owl is still at Montour
 
:-) a number of us were there Saturday afternoon and did not find it … how dare those birds have wings and move around and hide from us.
 
 


On Jan 4, 2021, at 7:41 AM, John Shortis via groups.io <john_shortis@...> wrote:
 
...and was still there yesterday (Sunday) PM.
 
John Shortis
 
On Friday, January 1, 2021, 06:48:29 PM MST, Louisa Evers <elouisa603@...> wrote: 
 
 
At least one great gray remains in the vicinity of the Montour Road-Main Street intersection<LE4_2309.jpg>


-- 
Louisa Evers
<LE4_2309.jpg>
 
Ken Miracle
chukar28@...
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5
 


-- 
Tom Soniville
Boise. North End 

Ken Miracle
chukar28@...
208-570-2780
"Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God" 2COR 3:5


--
Tom Soniville
Boise. North End


Leanne Lloyd-Fairey
 

I have found the Crossley ID Guide for Raptors to be a great resource. The format is too big to be considered a field guide, but I like to compare photos taken in the field with the photos in the book. 

I've attached a poorly scanned image from the spread on Bald Eagles in flight -- adult, subadult, and immature.

Leanne Lloyd-Fairey
Emmett, ID


Leanne Lloyd-Fairey
 

Well, I thought I attached the image. I'll try again with it pasted in.