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New addition to RR building Now 20x46 feet

Steve Hatch
 


The second wall is now ready to pour so I'll mix concrete and fill the wall with concrete in the morning.
Then just one last wall and I can build the floor and the building and then the RR ADDITION
 Gad what a lot of work for the hobby ....
  But I get to expand the Standard gauge and give it quite a run.  I really can't wait.
Something about the roar of S standard gauge rolling through the RR....
 Gets me every time.

Steve Hatch    ( getting excited again)

Picture
Second Stem Wall and footing.
http://www.railwayeng.com/9030railroad/pics/footing4.jpg

Re: D&RGW 30’ reefer # 32-78 AC&F plans.

Ed Tibbetts
 

I googled it and found plans and pictures. Shoulda donit first😒

D&RGW 30’ reefer # 32-78 AC&F plans.

Ed Tibbetts
 

I want to build 2 or 3 30’ reefers from the 32 to 78 series built by AC&F in 1908.
I have a folio sheet, but it’s rather light on details. I tried to use the Trains index but
it kept giving me a 404. I tried logging off, then on but I could not log off😢.
I would appreciate it if someone can point me to plans, or send me a .pdf of 
these cars.
Thanks.
Ed T.

Re: NWSL gear production

Brian Kopp
 

For the record the NWSL online store is now closed. The website says they will keep the lights on until August 30th to finish filling orders.

Brian Kopp
Jacksonville,FL

Re: Peco HOn3 Flex Track

Mike Van Hove
 

Ted Wilson,

I will toss this out your consideration;

If you’re only building a very small layout (say, 3 or 4 turnouts, buy them)

If you have plans for a larger layout, then consider the Fastraxx Turnout system.

If I recall correctly, if you have more than about 15 turnouts, it’s cheaper to build them yourself.

Check out his website, and the instruction videos, he has the most comprehensive instructions I’ve ever seen.

Have no fear, you can build excellent turnouts yourself.  The more you build, the cheaper they get.

I have built many for my own layout, both HO standard gage and HOn3, about (43) HO Std Gage, for a local club, and a bunch of HOn3 for a friend in Jeff City.

I really enjoy building them, and you can alter them for curved applications, as well.

Disclaimer:  I have no connection to Fast Traxx, I’m just a very satisfied customer.

Check out this website:


Lots of good information here.

Good luck, and enjoy your new layout.

Mike Van Hove

Columbia, Missouri



On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Don Peterson via Groups.Io <sagenut3@...> wrote:

I agree with Lloyd. I chose ME track & turnouts over Peco because I think they just look better but the turnouts are a little more delicate than the Peco (that's probably why they look better). I have installed them and soldered the joints only to find that I pulled the rail behind the frog out a little and left a gap. easily fixed but better BEFORE you solder them in.

Don Peterson
On Friday, July 5, 2019, 10:17:30 AM MDT, lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:


Peco has higher ties but they work just fine with each other. I find the ME t/o a little too sensitive to handling abuse while installing. The rails behind the frogs pulls out easily so be careful when adjusting the fit and alignment.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 9:03 AM <twilton@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

All -  As I am about to start my first layout I was wondering if anyone has any comments about Peco's HOn3 code 70 flex track and their #5 turnouts. As well, how do they mate up with Micro Engineering's track and turnouts?

Thanks in advance for any responses!

Ted Wilton

--
lloyd lehrer

Re: Peco HOn3 Flex Track

Don Peterson
 

I agree with Lloyd. I chose ME track & turnouts over Peco because I think they just look better but the turnouts are a little more delicate than the Peco (that's probably why they look better). I have installed them and soldered the joints only to find that I pulled the rail behind the frog out a little and left a gap. easily fixed but better BEFORE you solder them in.

Don Peterson

On Friday, July 5, 2019, 10:17:30 AM MDT, lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:


Peco has higher ties but they work just fine with each other. I find the ME t/o a little too sensitive to handling abuse while installing. The rails behind the frogs pulls out easily so be careful when adjusting the fit and alignment.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 9:03 AM <twilton@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

All -  As I am about to start my first layout I was wondering if anyone has any comments about Peco's HOn3 code 70 flex track and their #5 turnouts. As well, how do they mate up with Micro Engineering's track and turnouts?

Thanks in advance for any responses!

Ted Wilton

--
lloyd lehrer

Re: Peco HOn3 Flex Track

lloyd lehrer
 

Peco has higher ties but they work just fine with each other. I find the ME t/o a little too sensitive to handling abuse while installing. The rails behind the frogs pulls out easily so be careful when adjusting the fit and alignment.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 9:03 AM <twilton@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

All -  As I am about to start my first layout I was wondering if anyone has any comments about Peco's HOn3 code 70 flex track and their #5 turnouts. As well, how do they mate up with Micro Engineering's track and turnouts?

Thanks in advance for any responses!

Ted Wilton


--
lloyd lehrer

Peco HOn3 Flex Track

twilton@...
 
Edited

All -  As I am about to start my first layout I was wondering if anyone has any comments about Peco's HOn3 code 70 flex track and their #5 turnouts. As well, how do they mate up with Micro Engineering's track and turnouts?

Thanks in advance for any responses!

Ted Wilton

Re: Gear Making

 

Mike - Thank you for the homeshopmachinist forum link.  Ed W

Finding Mike McClure

Darryl Huffman
 


Does anyone have contact information (email address) for Mike McClure who models the Wolf Creek Lines?

Darryl Huffman

darrylhuffman@...

Re: Gear Making

Mick Moignard
 

I needed some gears making recently.  I have several PSC/MSM brass models which were made with very soft brass worm gears driving a nylon-type plastic gear. The brass worm wears badly - though it took 18 years of operation on my C-21 to wear the worm out.  Locodoc says he has a solution for this issue but it requires gearbox modifications, and as I’m in the UK I just didn’t fancy sending gearboxes to him.  So I dug around here and found HPC Gears, hpcgears.com, who made some new worms for me, using my measurements and also the worn worm.  These are in steel. So far I’ve fitted two, the C-21 and a PSC/MSM K-27, and they're just fine. I’ve even had the C-21 apart again and minutely examined the spur gear, and there isn’t a mark on it, or on the new worm, so I feel that was totally successful.

Why am I writing this?  I too have been a longtime NWSL customer. They didn’t list the specific worm gear needed here, so I looked elsewhere and found that it’s not hard to get custom gears made, and made properly.  My only issue was the cost,  because I had just 10 made.  If I’d had 200 made, they’d have been a lot cheaper each, but then I’d have had the cost and hassle of marketing the 190 or so that I don’t need.  Bottom line really is that if you really need them, you can get them made.  

By The way, when I say expensive, I mean GBP 68 each, for the 10 I had done, but compare that to having to retire a $750 engine.

Mick

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m: +44 7774 652504
Skype: mickmoignard

, so please excuse the typos.

Re: NWSL gear production

 

Bill - Thanks for a positive reply.  The forums devoted to tools and such simply are not interested in ideas.  They want to see actual hardware.  When I have hardware I'll show it off in those places if I think it will be of value to anyone.  That will probably be a few months after I am faced with a loco project I can't get gears for.  Meantime I've collected some of the pieces and involute cutters. ............ Nuff said for now.
Ed W

Re: NWSL gear production

Ray
 

I agree with Mark! 
Knock it off DAMMIT!

Gear Making

Mike Van Hove
 

Hi Folks,

In my past. I had some toolroom machines.

Thats all behind me now as I live in a retirement facility without room for machines.  Barely have room for a small HOn3 layout.  😩

I did recall having been a member of this  group:


They do some amazing work, you guys should check it out.  It may have some info on making gears.

Like the rest of you, I regret the end of NWSL, but I can sympathize with Dave and his reason for closing.

I also hope some angel will come along and buy the entire operation.

But check out the Home Shop Machinist, it’s very interesting.

Mike Van Hove

Re: NWSL gear production

 

I have a motive for talking about this here in this forum.  It is to raise awareness of the subject and maybe someone INTERESTED IN HON3 will get involved.  In the last 60 years dozens of beautiful brass HOn3 locomotive models have been produced with old tech motors and drive trains and performance ranging from worthless to almost as good as Blackstone.  And Blackstone? 2 D&RGW prototypes and a chance of a third. That's it.  And the only significant source of gears is going away and the other source of conversion kits will be hit hard by the unavailability of gears.
What do you want to do about it?   Sit there and cry?  Or maybe shrug and say "I have all the operational HOn3 locomotives I need and can always buy an HOn3 conversion of a mass produced HO diesel".
I'm at the point in my life where I am in no position to go into the business of making gears.  Will there be someone else that has an interest in HOn3?  Maybe that someone is here.  Or maybe that someone will buy NWSL's technology to make gears for drones or automating appliances in doll houses or who knows what?  Would they be willing to make a special run of 25 or 50 gears or worms for a remote HOn3 market?  Or would they simply stuff Dave's notes and sketches in a file cabinet an throw critical bits and pieces of tooling and fixtures into a scrap and rework box for future use.

If I had a pile of money for toys I'd make Dave R an offer for the gear and worm making "technology" with the idea of preserving it intact for whoever comes up with the ambition to go into production.  But that's just a dream.  Hell, in my small hillside house and shop I don't even have space to store the machines out of the rain.

So please give me a pass on my efforts.  It's all I can do by myself.
Ed Weldon

Re: NWSL gear production

Bill Lugg
 

FWIW, there is also the TAIGTOOLS group on Yahoo Groups that I'm a member of, but I'd be interested to hear what Ed's thinking in either forum.

Bill Lugg

On 7/3/19 6:30 PM, Brian Kopp wrote:
There is the repowerandregear group right here on groups.io

Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL

Re: NWSL gear production

Brian Kopp
 

There is the repowerandregear group right here on groups.io

Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL

Re: NWSL gear production

Alan Lautenslager <alan.lautenslager@...>
 

Hi Ed,
 Thinking perhaps your are tasking the wrong group for information on how gears are made and the machines required to do so. I would think there would be a group or two dedicated to machining. Maybe a search of tha face book groups would help you out.

Re: NWSL gear production

 

AAAAAAAARG!!!!  I want to talk about how to make gears. 
If some of you guys want to have an intergenerational reproductive organ metrology discussion please do it under a different subject line.
Ed W

Re: NWSL

Stop these emails. Thank you.
 

thank you


-----Original Message-----
From: alsands <alsands@...>
To: HOn3 <HOn3@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jul 2, 2019 7:10 pm
Subject: Re: [HOn3] NWSL

Hey people, I asked this question to get some sensible answers not start a pissing contest. Cut it out, life is too short to get nasty.
Alan
Perth
Western Australia