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Re: Limited Run of the Shay Wood Miter now the Slicer

Darryl Huffman
 

Dale,

 Great information.

The mat cutting blade sounds intersting.

I bought one of the NWSL Choppers and immediately flowed my wood with blood.

Pushing a piece of stripwood under that "shark mouth razor blade" was hard for me to do

I'm pretty clumsy and have to use " idiot proof" tools.

Thanks for the information.

Darryl Huffman


On Sunday, July 14, 2019, 3:14 AM, Dale Buxton <dbtuathaddana@...> wrote:

I haven't seen a Shay Cutter since I was in my twenties. I always wanted one too. About 25 years ago or so, Division Point Models marketed a real nice all metal one that was about 2 feet long and a foot wide with an anodized aluminum bed that was marked in like one inch squares and had a scale rule attached up by the cutting face. They were like $250 to $500 dollars but really nicely made.

When I worked in the printing business, we used a machine called a "Guillotine Cutter" to cut paper and plastic. The essential parts are all identical to this "Shay Cutter". In industry, they are use for many types of sheet material cutting. When paper money is cut to final size it is cut on a guillotine cutter. Coors Container uses them for cutting thin sheet aluminum. The blades on theirs are about 12 to 18 feet long. The ones I used for paper and plastic cutting were 4 to 8 feet long.

The main differences between this tool and a guillotine cutter is that, 1. Your facing the blade and not parallel to it.

2. On the guillotine cutter, the blade edge only has a bevel on the backside of the blade (the part of the blade facing the operator). The front side is flat and flush with the cutting face. The reason for the single bevel edge is that a back to back beveled cutting edge causes a thing called back-lash to the work piece and will prevent a straight cut as part of the front of the blade pushes back at the work piece.

3. Where the blade comes down to contact the table at the end of the cut. There is a trough in the table parallel to the blade where a plastic stick is put. This is so the blade does not bottom out metal to metal and ruin the cutting edge.

4. The metering face (called the "Fence") pushes the work face towards you and the cutting face of the blade with a lead screw and a T-nut that goes in the slot in the table (just like this ones thumb screw). The lead screw is connected at the front of the machine to a hand crank or electric motor.

And, 5. There is a hydraulic or electro-mechanical clamp that comes down behind the blade face to hold the work piece in place while the blade powers through it. This so the work piece isn't dragged into the direction of the blade travel, which is usually to the left and skews the cut if the clamp is not holding the work piece firmly in place.

This cutter and the NWSL Chopper could really benefit from a picture framing, matte cutting blade. These blades cutting edge are identical to a guillotine cutter blades single bevel edge. This would insure squarer cuts and eliminate having two cut pieces with a beveled end the matches the double bevel of the single edge razor blade. This would make for less final sanding of the ends of work pieces.

The other thing it could use is a bit of self-healing cutting matte that inserts flush into the table where the blade contacts the cutting surface. The Chopper II had this feature. It really prolongs the life of the razor blade.

Thanks for the video Darryl.

Nice to see this great little tool again!

Dale Buxton 

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 2:33 AM Darryl Huffman via Groups.Io <darrylhuffman=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Over the years, I have had several people ask about the Shay Wood Miter that I use in my videos.

Mine was custom made for me by my good friend Max Corey.

If you do not know what I am referring to, here is a link to a Youtube video I filmed years ago about how to make your own.





But you don't need to make your own as Max has 4 of them ready to ship right now.

These are only available in limited quantities.

These are hand crafted, custom made tools.

Max's new version is longer and stronger.

Price is $150

You can contact Max here:


Darryl Huffman

You can follow along on my build of the 1980 Tom Yorke HO Pool Hall / Bordello here:






Re: Limited Run of the Shay Wood Miter now the Slicer

Dale Buxton
 

I haven't seen a Shay Cutter since I was in my twenties. I always wanted one too. About 25 years ago or so, Division Point Models marketed a real nice all metal one that was about 2 feet long and a foot wide with an anodized aluminum bed that was marked in like one inch squares and had a scale rule attached up by the cutting face. They were like $250 to $500 dollars but really nicely made.

When I worked in the printing business, we used a machine called a "Guillotine Cutter" to cut paper and plastic. The essential parts are all identical to this "Shay Cutter". In industry, they are use for many types of sheet material cutting. When paper money is cut to final size it is cut on a guillotine cutter. Coors Container uses them for cutting thin sheet aluminum. The blades on theirs are about 12 to 18 feet long. The ones I used for paper and plastic cutting were 4 to 8 feet long.

The main differences between this tool and a guillotine cutter is that, 1. Your facing the blade and not parallel to it.

2. On the guillotine cutter, the blade edge only has a bevel on the backside of the blade (the part of the blade facing the operator). The front side is flat and flush with the cutting face. The reason for the single bevel edge is that a back to back beveled cutting edge causes a thing called back-lash to the work piece and will prevent a straight cut as part of the front of the blade pushes back at the work piece.

3. Where the blade comes down to contact the table at the end of the cut. There is a trough in the table parallel to the blade where a plastic stick is put. This is so the blade does not bottom out metal to metal and ruin the cutting edge.

4. The metering face (called the "Fence") pushes the work face towards you and the cutting face of the blade with a lead screw and a T-nut that goes in the slot in the table (just like this ones thumb screw). The lead screw is connected at the front of the machine to a hand crank or electric motor.

And, 5. There is a hydraulic or electro-mechanical clamp that comes down behind the blade face to hold the work piece in place while the blade powers through it. This so the work piece isn't dragged into the direction of the blade travel, which is usually to the left and skews the cut if the clamp is not holding the work piece firmly in place.

This cutter and the NWSL Chopper could really benefit from a picture framing, matte cutting blade. These blades cutting edge are identical to a guillotine cutter blades single bevel edge. This would insure squarer cuts and eliminate having two cut pieces with a beveled end the matches the double bevel of the single edge razor blade. This would make for less final sanding of the ends of work pieces.

The other thing it could use is a bit of self-healing cutting matte that inserts flush into the table where the blade contacts the cutting surface. The Chopper II had this feature. It really prolongs the life of the razor blade.

Thanks for the video Darryl.

Nice to see this great little tool again!

Dale Buxton 

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 2:33 AM Darryl Huffman via Groups.Io <darrylhuffman=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Over the years, I have had several people ask about the Shay Wood Miter that I use in my videos.

Mine was custom made for me by my good friend Max Corey.

If you do not know what I am referring to, here is a link to a Youtube video I filmed years ago about how to make your own.





But you don't need to make your own as Max has 4 of them ready to ship right now.

These are only available in limited quantities.

These are hand crafted, custom made tools.

Max's new version is longer and stronger.

Price is $150

You can contact Max here:


Darryl Huffman

You can follow along on my build of the 1980 Tom Yorke HO Pool Hall / Bordello here:






Limited Run of the Shay Wood Miter now the Slicer

Darryl Huffman
 

Over the years, I have had several people ask about the Shay Wood Miter that I use in my videos.

Mine was custom made for me by my good friend Max Corey.

If you do not know what I am referring to, here is a link to a Youtube video I filmed years ago about how to make your own.





But you don't need to make your own as Max has 4 of them ready to ship right now.

These are only available in limited quantities.

These are hand crafted, custom made tools.

Max's new version is longer and stronger.

Price is $150

You can contact Max here:


Darryl Huffman
darrylhuffman@...

You can follow along on my build of the 1980 Tom Yorke HO Pool Hall / Bordello here:






Jeffrey Phillips of Evergreen, Co. Please get in touch with LocoDoc (719)530-1496

roundbell@...
 

Your charge card has Expired and I need to send your order.     Wayne


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Sturtz <apa_208@...>
To: HOn3 <HOn3@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jul 12, 2019 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Victor...Micro Trains on the Way Paul

ASAP isn't necessary, Sam, when ever you get around to it is fine.Paul

Re: Victor...Micro Trains on the Way Paul

Paul Sturtz
 

ASAP isn't necessary, Sam, when ever you get around to it is fine.Paul

Re: Victor...Micro Trains on the Way Paul

Sam Urrate
 

Yes I still have the diesels and they are still a treasure.  I hope this package arrived safely.  I told you I had just opened the package to view the “assembly needed.” Last night while doing some cleanup I found the instructions for assembly.  If you need them I will mail them ASAP.  We are in the hurricane/tropical storm area but we are high so there is no flood danger just high winds and rain.  The layout will be unplugged later today to prevent any lightning damage.  I thought your name was familiar but I didn’t make the exact association. Small world among us narrow gaugers.

Re: New addition to RR building Now 20x46 feet

Ric Case
 

Steve that will be great!
I model the EBT which is supported by the Pennsylvania which I could use another complete basement for that part of the world.
My EBT covers most of the 1800 square feet so I really don’t have room for alot of the standard gauge.
Sometime when you get to Cincinnati drop a line and stop by!

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Jul 11, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Steve Hatch <hatch@...> wrote:

  Yes Ric I'll do that.   Take a couple days to get it all together.  I'll post them then.
The drawings are too large to use my copier. 
-Steve Hatch

Re: New addition to RR building Now 20x46 feet

Dave Trimble
 

Steve,

To post a copy of a large drawing or print, take it outside, lay it flat to get good, even lighting from the sun and take a photo.

Then post the photo.

Dave

Re: New addition to RR building Now 20x46 feet

Steve Hatch
 

  Yes Ric I'll do that.   Take a couple days to get it all together.  I'll post them then.
The drawings are too large to use my copier. 
-Steve Hatch

Re: Victor...Micro Trains on the Way Paul

Paul Sturtz
 

Sam,  it arrived today and thanks very much!  I will definitely be helping a local young narrow gauge modeler in the same spirit you assisted me.  still have those diesels?
Paul
apa_208@...

Re: New Kadee HOn3 coupler

hiroechan
 

if the new #705's behave like their cousins the #158's, they will indeed reduce the bounce significantly. 

I also bet the #705's will couple with Sergents directly, without needing to pick cars up to do it by hand.

--Drew McCann


On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 2:05 AM Mark Kasprowicz <marowicz@...> wrote:
I wonder if the new design eliminates ' 714 coupler bounce'!

Mark K
Oxon England.

Re: New addition to RR building Now 20x46 feet

Ric Case
 

Steve any chance you could post the drawings for the addition and track plans!

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Jul 11, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Steve Hatch <hatch@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

here's the last stem wall. the 3rd one.
pic.

http://www.railwayeng.com/9030railroad/pics/footing6.jpg

time to build some sticks together.   Just a big 1:1 kit.
Steve Hatch

Re: New addition to RR building Now 20x46 feet

Steve Hatch
 
Edited

here's the last stem wall. the 3rd one.
pic.

http://www.railwayeng.com/9030railroad/pics/footing6.jpg

time to build some sticks together.   Just a big 1:1 kit.
Steve Hatch

Re: D&RGW Reefers

Art D3
 

Thanks Mark. I recalled the story about the reefers being restored, but the details were fuzzy enough that I didn't want to go into detail. I would also say that the yellow not only oxidized in the sun, but road dirt and grim had a big impact on the appearance of such a light color quickly.

Similarly, I remember reading somewhere, but can't recall where or who mentioned it that when 268 was given her bumblebee paint scheme for the World's Fair the yellow was described by a D&RGW employee as being painted "school bus" yellow. It would be interesting to find a paint formula for 1940-50 school bus yellow and see if that is indeed what was used.

Railroads tended to be frugal and very standardized. If your entire fleet of box cars, flat cars, and gondolas are paint box car red, why would you have to stock a different color for the ends and roofs of your reefers? Most color variation is due to the manual mixing capabilities of the era, perhaps different (and cheaper) paint suppliers,  sun fading, and dirt.

I have also been curious as to how the D&RGW selected the MOW gray paint. Could it have been a manufacturer's surplus lot? It certainly looks like a naval color, could it have been that the railroad found a large quantity of light gray paint from a supplier or military surplus at a very good price? Being that it was intended for non-revenue equipment I can't imagine that the company "bean counters" would have wanted to pay a lot for that paint.
--
Art Dutra
Meriden, CT

build of Tom Yorke's Pool Hall and Bordello, the original 1980 version

Darryl Huffman
 

I am posting my build of the original HO Tom Yorke Pool Hall and Bordello from 1980.

The build is being posted on Railroad Line Forums.

Here is the link:

Darryl Huffman
darrylhuffman@...

My blog, Ghost Town Models, can be seen here:






Re: D&RGW Reefers

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Art,

The yellow that Blackstone used was based on paint chips from D&RGW Reefers 39 and 54. 39 and 54 were two sides of a storage unit so that each car had one side exposed to the elements and the other totally protected by an overall roof. They'd stood like that for years until the DRHS bought them. We restoed one (39) which is now at Silverton while the other is being used for storage. We gave Blackstone the opportunity to take paint samples from both which is what they based their paint on. But mountain UV can play havoc with tints. Be that as it may Sloan has a slightly different take on it all and it's worth refering to him though it asks more questions than it answers. That said an orange (with a hint of yellow) sided car with tuscan frames and box car red ends and roof could look neat.
And I agree that the roof and ends are standard box car red.

Mark K
Oxon England.

Re: D&RGW Reefers

Wes Garcia
 

Hi Art;

 

Did not know that it should be boxcar red. I will go order some box car red. I think I will go with the Model-flex. Thanks for the information.

 

Wes

 

From: HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Art D3
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 11:27 AM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] D&RGW Reefers

 

D&RGW yellow will work if you want a little darker yellow. Blackstone's reefers are standard reefer yellow which is probably accurate, but a little on the light side for my taste.

Also, you're using roof brown on the ends and roof and not box car red?
--
Art Dutra
Meriden, CT

Re: D&RGW Reefers

Art D3
 

D&RGW yellow will work if you want a little darker yellow. Blackstone's reefers are standard reefer yellow which is probably accurate, but a little on the light side for my taste.

Also, you're using roof brown on the ends and roof and not box car red?
--
Art Dutra
Meriden, CT

Looking for Alamosa Car Shop water car kit

Doug Boudakian <dboudrrtrain@...>
 

Looking for a Alamosa car Shop water service car kit. Please contact me off the list.
Doug Boudakian

Victor...Micro Trains on the Way Paul

Sam Urrate
 

Paul I put your Victor Micro Trains car in the mail yesterday.  It is priority mail so it should arrive tomorrow.  I hope you enjoy the car.  All I ask is that sometime you aid another model railroader with a need.  I didn't have your email so I wanted to notify you of the shipment.  

Sam