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Re: Carter box car

lloyd lehrer
 

Me too. I also have sent two follow up messages and no responses. He appears to be dedicating his time to the new layout space. But it would be nice to get an indication from him. 

It does not seem like his normal behavior. 



lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097


On Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 3:16 PM <jhoff02@...> wrote:
About 1 month ago there was a discussion with Steve Hatch about any parts he had left for carter boxcars. He stated that if we would send him $10 for postage he would send parts he had. I did send he $10 but have not received any parts has any one received any parts? Don’t care about the $10 but would like to what ever parts he has. Jim


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lloyd lehrer


Carter box car

jhoff02@...
 

About 1 month ago there was a discussion with Steve Hatch about any parts he had left for carter boxcars. He stated that if we would send him $10 for postage he would send parts he had. I did send he $10 but have not received any parts has any one received any parts? Don’t care about the $10 but would like to what ever parts he has. Jim


Re: Central Valley N Scale Thru Truss

John Stutz
 

Actually Dusty, there are several existing DSP&P truss spans that are not much if any lighter, in proportion, than your model:

- A ~90' through truss over the South Platt River at Bailey's McGraw Memorial Park . This was relocated from the Mill Gulch crossing of the South Platt near Waterton, to the present site, in 1978-85. It is a 6-panel through Pratt built by the Keystone bridge Co., for an unknown customer, and purchased by the C&S "... sometime prior to 1903 ...". I estimate a circa 1880 construction date, so could be original DSP&P. Keystone used wrought iron tubular posts and eyebars with cast iron joint blocks- similar to the better known Phoenix - but of square or hexagonal section instead of circular section.

- A 80' 6-panel deck Pratt truss on the DSP&P Chalk creek grade at Pomeroy Gulch near Romely, which was long used by the Chalk Creek road, at map location (38.675055, -106.364834).
See: <http://c-sng-discussion-forum.41377.n7.nabble.com/Bridges-at-Romley-td4218.html>.

- A pair of ~128' 8-panel through Pratt trusses spanning the Gunnison River just north of Gunnison.
- An extremely light 5-panel through Pratt of about 64' length, spanning Ohio Creek about 900' NW of the Gunnison River crossing. This is undoubtedly the span that dictated the retention of a C-16 to work the Ohio Creek branch, being too light to risk any heavier locomotive.

The Gunnison River and Ohio Creek spans are located deep in private property, preserved for ranch access, and the generation that allowed me to photograph these bridges, about 25 years ago, has now passed. However the Gunnison River is open to rafting and kayaks, at least in normal times,, and I have seen photos taken from the river. .
But see: <http://c-sng-discussion-forum.41377.n7.nabble.com/Gunnison-River-bridge-td10339.html#a10384>
and <http://c-sng-discussion-forum.41377.n7.nabble.com/Ohio-Creek-bridge-td10353.html>

John Stutz

On June 25, 2020 at 5:50 PM Dusty <Dustburm@q.com> wrote:

Something to think about. I did this some time ago. It looks sort of wimpy but it might solve someone's bridge problem?

Dusty Burman 


 


Re: Timberline Kit

Climax@...
 

cliff 
Contact me direct
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: "Clifford Mestel via groups.io"
Sent: Jun 26, 2020 8:47 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Timberline Kit

Does anyone have the instructions and drawing for Timberline Models "False Front - Hotel", kit #FF109?
The kit I bought sometime ago  is lacking them.
 
Cliff Mestel
 


Timberline Kit

Clifford Mestel
 

Does anyone have the instructions and drawing for Timberline Models "False Front - Hotel", kit #FF109?
The kit I bought sometime ago  is lacking them.
 
Cliff Mestel
 


Re: Progress in Dewey on the RGW

John
 

Beautiful work so far! Very impressive😉
Building your layout sure beats being at the home playing bingo!
John Peckham
So Cal



On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 7:36 PM, Ric Case
<ebtmodeler@...> wrote:
Steve it really is taking shape! 

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Jun 25, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Steve Hatch <hatch@...> wrote:


Re: Progress in Dewey on the RGW

Ric Case
 

Steve it really is taking shape! 

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Jun 25, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Steve Hatch <hatch@...> wrote:


Central Valley N Scale Thru Truss

Dusty
 

Something to think about. I did this some time ago. It looks sort of wimpy but it might solve someone's bridge problem?

Dusty Burman 


Progress in Dewey on the RGW

Steve Hatch
 


Re: Elk Creek bridge on the D&S

Ric Case
 

When the rr was operating in its past they probably would have installed a shoo fly around it by driving some piling and would have been running trains in 48 hrs or less!LOL! 

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Jun 24, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Mark Kasprowicz <marowicz@...> wrote:

According to John Harper, it will take 8 to 16 weeks to repair. The result o rain and a massive log jam. Story in the Durango Herald.


Re: Elk Creek bridge on the D&S

Mark Kasprowicz
 

According to John Harper, it will take 8 to 16 weeks to repair. The result o rain and a massive log jam. Story in the Durango Herald.


Re: Elk Creek bridge on the D&S

ftgcss
 

On the U.P. they'd just put a 25m.p.h. slow order on it. 😉
Scott


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Re: DRGW 5500 Stock Car Doors

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Remember also that a portion of the 1926 stock car rebuilds were executed without any plans being available hence the variations in the sides. How much this affected the door design I don't know. I believe about a third of the rebuilds were made this way.

Mark K
Oxon England.


Elk Creek bridge on the D&S

Mike Conder
 

Lots of water built up on the bridge and the river decided to make a new path around it.  Saw this on Facebook, sounds like they’ll have it fixed mid next week. 

Mike Conder



Re: DRGW 5500 Stock Car Doors

John Stutz
 

Dusty

See Sloan's "A Century + Ten..." in the chapter on stock cars. Looks like pre-1900 cars had doors with vertical bars braced by one centered horizontal cross frame. The 55XX general arrangement drawing of 1903 shows vertical boards, spaced about half a board width clear, and two evenly spaced horizontal braces, without diagonals. The 55XX rebuild drawing of 1926 adds the two sets of diagonal braces, while the 34' stock car drawings of 1923 sows only a single horizontal brace with dual diagonals. These drawings make the intended versions and dates clear, although it is not certain that all rebuilds got the updated doors.

John Stutz

On June 20, 2020 at 9:43 AM Dusty <Dustburm@q.com> wrote:

During a seasonal bench de-mucking I came acrossed the 2019 Hon3 Annual and the stock car weathering article. It referenced an article in the 2017 Annual about stock car modifications performed. In the 2017 article the author indicated the Railline doors represented post 1940 'rebuild' modifications. I perused the Grandt book and Vic Stones book and it appears the Railline doors were a result of the 1926(?) rebuild. The modified doors don't appear until the 40's and 50's based on the photos I observed. Of course 2 books aren't a complete documentation or study.

Anyone have reference to pre 1940 freak door images?

Dusty Burman 
623 261-8707

 


DRGW 5500 Stock Car Doors

Dusty
 

During a seasonal bench de-mucking I came acrossed the 2019 Hon3 Annual and the stock car weathering article. It referenced an article in the 2017 Annual about stock car modifications performed. In the 2017 article the author indicated the Railline doors represented post 1940 'rebuild' modifications. I perused the Grandt book and Vic Stones book and it appears the Railline doors were a result of the 1926(?) rebuild. The modified doors don't appear until the 40's and 50's based on the photos I observed. Of course 2 books aren't a complete documentation or study.

Anyone have reference to pre 1940 freak door images?

Dusty Burman 
623 261-8707


Re: the future of HON3 - or something else

Mark Lewis
 

Agreed!

Mark Lewis


On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 4:09 PM <rick@...> wrote:
Ya know, if you change the subject line to match the information
provided, it is a lot easier for a search to find the info. Jus' sayin'.

Rick




Re: the future of HON3 - or something else

rick@...
 

Ya know, if you change the subject line to match the information provided, it is a lot easier for a search to find the info. Jus' sayin'.

Rick


Re: the future of HON3

Robert Furrer
 

Here is a picture of the HOm/H0m version of this type of engine. Manufacturer is BEMO of Germany. The picture is taken from their web site.

Robert


Von: HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io> im Auftrag von Robert Furrer <rkfurrer@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Juni 2020 19:28
An: HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [HOn3] the future of HON3
 
Thanks for providing this most interesting article! As I live in Switzerland, and as my father had worked at Sulzer in Winterthur for a short time (though as a civil engineer), this has all been of particular interest. The bogies with their driving rods seem to have been taken straight from the "Crocodiles" of the Rhaetian Railways.

Robert Furrer


Von: HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io> im Auftrag von bcpryor <bcpryor@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Juni 2020 17:03
An: HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [HOn3] the future of HON3
 
Article here:


Bruce

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Mark 


You might also find the F.C. Machacamarca-Uncia diesels #20 & 24 of interest. ...

John Stutz