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Re: Remembering Frank Kappler

rick@...
 

Bill,

If you use a hardwood like oak for the slides and pin and glue them in, they should be fine. Not a lot of weight will be in the drawers. What I don't see are any rabbets where the drawer slides go, so I assume you are only planning on surface mounting the slides. This will work ok I think, but make sure you leave 1/16 or so between the drawers (vertically) to allow the drawers to move - that .125 (.13 as you show) will need to go to .1875 (.19)  clear, same as you show horizontally at the drawer.

I would do a coat of wax (parafin or whatever) on the top and bottom surfaces of the slides before you install them.

If you want to save some weight, use Luan plywood (doorskin) instead of hardboard. That and suitable knobs are available at HDepot or Lowes.

Rick

One thing I'm really not satisfied with are the drawer slides.  I'm concerned they are too fragile and would break during use.  It would be interesting to know how the original cabinet was designed in this respect.

Re: Remembering Frank Kappler

Climax@...
 

Bill
I agree that the slides are the stumble point and you have drawn what I was thinking and was my concern. About the only way to prevent the "slides" from coming off is by gluing them, then drill and screw them in place from the outside. Maybe a lazar mark to line them up. Other than that it is a guess.
After looking over the cabinet drawings I tend to lean more now with the crosswise loading of the wood. Put the largest or seldom used wood toward the back.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Lugg <@luggw1>
Sent: Mar 15, 2020 10:27 AM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler

If you look in
https://groups.io/g/HOn3/files/Stripwood%20Storage%20Cabinet you'll see
an initial cut for a couple of ideas for the cabinet.  The zip file
contains a DXF file that you should be able to open in most CAD
applications.  I've included a Frank Kappler inspired "original" cabinet
that's shallow and wide, allowing the wood to be stored crosswise.  I've
also included a narrow deep cabinet that allows the wood to be stored
front to back (I read and then forgot what Dave said below about having
a square cabinet - the price of getting old - it would be easy enough to
go back and add that option as well).

Understand, I've designed these the way I would build them with the
materials, tools and skills I have in the shop.  I have no experience
with laser cutting and don't know what the capabilities and limitations
are so I'd need a primer on that before I could modify the design for
that construction method.  One thing I'm really not satisfied with are
the drawer slides.  I'm concerned they are too fragile and would break
during use.  It would be interesting to know how the original cabinet
was designed in this respect.

Anyway, this is a first stab.  All thoughts and constructive criticism
is welcome.

Bill Lugg


On 3/12/20 1:36 PM, Climax@... wrote:
Bill:
I am still as strong contender that keeping the box square allowing the dividers to be either across or lenthwise is a great idea. It allows the owner to select his desired wood display by just shifting the dividers which could be locked together as a unit, 90 degrees. The option gives the buyers the option of either way. Strip wood in thicknesses of 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, and 12 scale inch thicknesses for each drawer would be great. even a drawer for sheet wood, clapboard, board & batton, scribed, could be a bottom drawer as well. I have mine if a long box on edge but flat would be just as good. The drawer if stored vertically would need to be 4 or 6 inches deep. I am not sure what the drawer handles should be, maybe something lazer cut and glued on.
DAve


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Lugg <@luggw1>
Sent: Mar 12, 2020 3:15 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler

Has any progress been made with drawings of this cabinet?  If not, I
have some time and could take a stab at it from the info and photos I've
received.

Bill Lugg


On 1/25/20 9:26 PM, asandrini wrote:
Sorry, fat fingers hit the sent button and not the attach button.

Photos attached this time.
Al



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: asandrini <asandrini@...>
Date: 1/25/20 8:23 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: HOn3@groups.io, asandrini@...
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler

I have been asked to post a couple of pictures of my Kappler Lumber
Company lumber yard.

Photos attached.

Al



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "kevin b via Groups.Io" <arcatruck13=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Date: 1/25/20 6:01 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler



any chance you'd post a photo or two of that box?
i'd like a shot at making one as my lumber yard is in tubes and
scattered to the winds etc.


I had saved mailing tubes to store the lumber, and labeled the tubes
with the sizes. It was a mess and took up a lot of space. One day
Frank walked into my shop and presented me with 7x8x28 inch, 7 drawer
box. The drawers had dividers to hold HO scale 1x2's through 12x12's,
plus two bottom drawers to hold his siding material.

thanks.
Kevin.

Re: Remembering Frank Kappler

Bill Lugg
 

If you look in https://groups.io/g/HOn3/files/Stripwood%20Storage%20Cabinet you'll see an initial cut for a couple of ideas for the cabinet.  The zip file contains a DXF file that you should be able to open in most CAD applications.  I've included a Frank Kappler inspired "original" cabinet that's shallow and wide, allowing the wood to be stored crosswise.  I've also included a narrow deep cabinet that allows the wood to be stored front to back (I read and then forgot what Dave said below about having a square cabinet - the price of getting old - it would be easy enough to go back and add that option as well).

Understand, I've designed these the way I would build them with the materials, tools and skills I have in the shop.  I have no experience with laser cutting and don't know what the capabilities and limitations are so I'd need a primer on that before I could modify the design for that construction method.  One thing I'm really not satisfied with are the drawer slides.  I'm concerned they are too fragile and would break during use.  It would be interesting to know how the original cabinet was designed in this respect.

Anyway, this is a first stab.  All thoughts and constructive criticism is welcome.

Bill Lugg

On 3/12/20 1:36 PM, Climax@... wrote:
Bill:
I am still as strong contender that keeping the box square allowing the dividers to be either across or lenthwise is a great idea. It allows the owner to select his desired wood display by just shifting the dividers which could be locked together as a unit, 90 degrees. The option gives the buyers the option of either way. Strip wood in thicknesses of 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, and 12 scale inch thicknesses for each drawer would be great. even a drawer for sheet wood, clapboard, board & batton, scribed, could be a bottom drawer as well. I have mine if a long box on edge but flat would be just as good. The drawer if stored vertically would need to be 4 or 6 inches deep. I am not sure what the drawer handles should be, maybe something lazer cut and glued on.
DAve


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Lugg <@luggw1>
Sent: Mar 12, 2020 3:15 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler

Has any progress been made with drawings of this cabinet?  If not, I
have some time and could take a stab at it from the info and photos I've
received.

Bill Lugg


On 1/25/20 9:26 PM, asandrini wrote:
Sorry, fat fingers hit the sent button and not the attach button.

Photos attached this time.
Al



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: asandrini <asandrini@...>
Date: 1/25/20 8:23 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: HOn3@groups.io, asandrini@...
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler

I have been asked to post a couple of pictures of my Kappler Lumber
Company lumber yard.

Photos attached.

Al



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "kevin b via Groups.Io" <arcatruck13=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Date: 1/25/20 6:01 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler



any chance you'd post a photo or two of that box?
i'd like a shot at making one as my lumber yard is in tubes and
scattered to the winds etc.


I had saved mailing tubes to store the lumber, and labeled the tubes
with the sizes. It was a mess and took up a lot of space. One day
Frank walked into my shop and presented me with 7x8x28 inch, 7 drawer
box. The drawers had dividers to hold HO scale 1x2's through 12x12's,
plus two bottom drawers to hold his siding material.

thanks.
Kevin.

Re: Remembering Frank Kappler

Climax@...
 

John, you must not have much wood.  I have the cardstock tubes with metal ends that Northeastern use to ship their wood in back in the 1960's.  I have 30 of them in a box, and on the caps which I painted white, put 1/64, 1/32. 1/8, 3/32. 1/4, 5/32, 1/2, 7/32, 3/4 and 1", then I put Z, L, I, H, Door slide, Hat, car floor, car roof, Car ends, corner, roof walk, 3 dowels, brass wire, ss wire, tubes, miscellaneous.  I also have 8 of the Kappler Kare Boxes of wood, and a drawer full of North Eastern Special shapes, Plastruct styrene, and bamboo.  In addition I have stacks of card stock, sheet wood, and bundles of wood from Mt. Albert I get at the shows. 
Behind me on shelves I put between 2x4 studs in a wall I have perhaps over 300 bottles of floqui paint I still use, some still in the very old square bottles.  I do a lot of scratch building and kit modifications.  I just finished  up two warehouse flats to use against a wall.  I have no idea who made the "kits" which were incomplete but they warehouse is called, Herminson Mills and is about 25 inches long and 3 or 4 stores tall.
In my shop area I keep a lot of brass stock which I cut on my Sherline Mill and Sherline Lathe.  I also use Bandsaws, dremel table saws and sanders.  
What I am saying is that when I need a piece of stock I want to know right where it is, grab it and use it.  I don't like hunting and I feel a case with drawers laying the material flat would be great.  Pulling these vertically stored tubes out and shaking them upside down and trying to select a piece of wood or what ever with a set of pointed tweezers is a pain.  then getting the tubes back in place is another trick much less having to keep the caps on the right tubes.  I wish I had the space I could just hang the bags of wood up but I don't.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: John Stutz
Sent: Mar 14, 2020 6:12 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io, Climax@...
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler

My alternative:

A couple 2"x 2"x 24" mailing boxes on end. The wood is in the original polyethylene sleeves, one sleeve per size, each stick labeled with the scale size at the top end. Multiple sizes of one thickness may be rubber banded together, which can help keep hewer 12" stock from collecting at the sleeve's bottom.

Much the same for Evergreen styrene, except the rubber banded sets of sleeves occupy about 6" width of a 10" deep shelf.

For wire, I use 12" lengths of roughly 3/4" lightweight PVC pipe, one end plugged inside about 1/2" deep. Into these go a set of seven roughly 1/4" K&S aluminum tubes, also plugged at one end and labeled for thickness.. These each take a single size of wire, or thickness of rectangular stock.. Small brass tubing and shapes go into a plane PVC tube. Brass and steel in separate tubes. The tubes go lose in a box, again horizontal on a shelf. No order in the box, but it is pretty obvious which is what.

Works for me, while using minimal shop volume.

John Stutz
On March 12, 2020 at 4:17 PM Climax@... wrote:


Vertical storage sounds good until you go to use it. Each tube must be removable to get the shorter pieces out. I use the Very very old, like 60 year old cardboard tubes with metal ends that Northeastern use to send their strip wood out in from the 1960's. I have tubes with the size on the end plus L H,Z, types of special shapes on the tube cap. It kind of helps but the tubes are still a pain when I put caps on the wrong ones. hahhaha I stored it vertically and horizontally and it was a pain either way. I believe that drawers with the wood laying flat is the best solution. Even with Northeastern long wood, it can be cut to fit. We need to think of where would it be stored, mostly on a shelf. In addition we need to keep in mind that people will probably try to stack other things on it so the outside box would need to be stout. Also if they order multiple units and try to stack them together, a form of locking them together would be a good idea such as a wiggle and wiggle tab on either end would suffice. I am taking these ideas off a list I made up to satisfy all customers.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Lugg <luggw1@...>
>Sent: Mar 12, 2020 4:58 PM
>To: HOn3@groups.io
>Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>
>I see what you mean about getting to material in the back of the
>drawers.  The only problem with orienting in the other direction for
>long wood is the footprint of the cabinet.  Personally, I don't believe
>I'd have the space to accommodate a 26" deep cabinet.
>
>However, I believe I can come up with a design (a couple actually) that
>would satisfy both camps well enough.  Let me see what I can do.
>
>Bill
>
>
>On 3/12/20 2:42 PM, Climax@... wrote:
>> Yes, crosswise with the seemingly prefered way. My only objection to it is the wood stored in the back of the drawer would be hard to get to. That was the only reason for the option of turning it 90 degrees.
>> Maybe an optional drawer add on for the sheet wood flat or vertical storage could be an option as well.
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bill Lugg <luggw1@...>
>>> Sent: Mar 12, 2020 3:38 PM
>>> To: HOn3@groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>
>>> No problem, I'll see what I can come up with.  As I recall we all agreed
>>> on a cabinet similar to the original with the wood stored crosswise, right?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Bill Lugg
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/12/20 1:28 PM, Climax@... wrote:
>>>> I'm sorry Bill, I started it and got side tracked with all the virus stuff and my Masonic Lodge duties. Besides that the NMRA Sunshine Region which I am the President of, is giving me a fit as directors are not doing the jobs they signed on to do.
>>>> I will willingly relinquish the job for now and when I get them done I will still forward them to you for your evaluation. Who knows, yours might even be better than what I was thinking anyway.
>>>> DAve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Bill Lugg <luggw1@...>
>>>>> Sent: Mar 12, 2020 3:15 PM
>>>>> To: HOn3@groups.io
>>>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>>>
>>>>> Has any progress been made with drawings of this cabinet?  If not, I
>>>>> have some time and could take a stab at it from the info and photos I've
>>>>> received.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Lugg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/25/20 9:26 PM, asandrini wrote:
>>>>>> Sorry, fat fingers hit the sent button and not the attach button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photos attached this time.
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: asandrini <asandrini@...>
>>>>>> Date: 1/25/20 8:23 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>> To: HOn3@groups.io, asandrini@...
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been asked to post a couple of pictures of my Kappler Lumber
>>>>>> Company lumber yard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photos attached.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: "kevin b via Groups.Io" <arcatruck13@...>
>>>>>> Date: 1/25/20 6:01 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>> To: HOn3@groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any chance you'd post a photo or two of that box?
>>>>>> i'd like a shot at making one as my lumber yard is in tubes and
>>>>>> scattered to the winds etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had saved mailing tubes to store the lumber, and labeled the tubes
>>>>>> with the sizes. It was a mess and took up a lot of space. One day
>>>>>> Frank walked into my shop and presented me with 7x8x28 inch, 7 drawer
>>>>>> box. The drawers had dividers to hold HO scale 1x2's through 12x12's,
>>>>>> plus two bottom drawers to hold his siding material.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Kevin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Remembering Frank Kappler

David Laverick
 

On Mar 14, 2020, at 5:12 PM, John Stutz <john.stutz@...> wrote:

My alternative:


A couple 2"x 2"x 24" mailing boxes on end. The wood is in the original polyethylene sleeves, one sleeve per size, each stick labeled with the scale size at the top end. Multiple sizes of one thickness may be rubber banded together, which can help keep hewer 12" stock from collecting at the sleeve's bottom.

Much the same for Evergreen styrene, except the rubber banded sets of sleeves occupy about 6" width of a 10" deep shelf.

For wire, I use 12" lengths of roughly 3/4" lightweight PVC pipe, one end plugged inside about 1/2" deep. Into these go a set of seven roughly 1/4" K&S aluminum tubes, also plugged at one end and labeled for thickness.. These each take a single size of wire, or thickness of rectangular stock.. Small brass tubing and shapes go into a plane PVC tube. Brass and steel in separate tubes. The tubes go lose in a box, again horizontal on a shelf. No order in the box, but it is pretty obvious which is what.

Works for me, while using minimal shop volume.

John Stutz
On March 12, 2020 at 4:17 PM Climax@... wrote:


Vertical storage sounds good until you go to use it. Each tube must be removable to get the shorter pieces out. I use the Very very old, like 60 year old cardboard tubes with metal ends that Northeastern use to send their strip wood out in from the 1960's. I have tubes with the size on the end plus L H,Z, types of special shapes on the tube cap. It kind of helps but the tubes are still a pain when I put caps on the wrong ones. hahhaha I stored it vertically and horizontally and it was a pain either way. I believe that drawers with the wood laying flat is the best solution. Even with Northeastern long wood, it can be cut to fit. We need to think of where would it be stored, mostly on a shelf. In addition we need to keep in mind that people will probably try to stack other things on it so the outside box would need to be stout. Also if they order multiple units and try to stack them together, a form of locking them together would be a good idea such as a wiggle and wiggle tab on either end would suffice. I am taking these ideas off a list I made up to satisfy all customers.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Lugg <luggw1@...>
>Sent: Mar 12, 2020 4:58 PM
>To: HOn3@groups.io
>Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>
>I see what you mean about getting to material in the back of the
>drawers.  The only problem with orienting in the other direction for
>long wood is the footprint of the cabinet.  Personally, I don't believe
>I'd have the space to accommodate a 26" deep cabinet.
>
>However, I believe I can come up with a design (a couple actually) that
>would satisfy both camps well enough.  Let me see what I can do.
>
>Bill
>
>
>On 3/12/20 2:42 PM, Climax@... wrote:
>> Yes, crosswise with the seemingly prefered way. My only objection to it is the wood stored in the back of the drawer would be hard to get to. That was the only reason for the option of turning it 90 degrees.
>> Maybe an optional drawer add on for the sheet wood flat or vertical storage could be an option as well.
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bill Lugg <luggw1@...>
>>> Sent: Mar 12, 2020 3:38 PM
>>> To: HOn3@groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>
>>> No problem, I'll see what I can come up with.  As I recall we all agreed
>>> on a cabinet similar to the original with the wood stored crosswise, right?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Bill Lugg
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/12/20 1:28 PM, Climax@... wrote:
>>>> I'm sorry Bill, I started it and got side tracked with all the virus stuff and my Masonic Lodge duties. Besides that the NMRA Sunshine Region which I am the President of, is giving me a fit as directors are not doing the jobs they signed on to do.
>>>> I will willingly relinquish the job for now and when I get them done I will still forward them to you for your evaluation. Who knows, yours might even be better than what I was thinking anyway.
>>>> DAve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Bill Lugg <luggw1@...>
>>>>> Sent: Mar 12, 2020 3:15 PM
>>>>> To: HOn3@groups.io
>>>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>>>
>>>>> Has any progress been made with drawings of this cabinet?  If not, I
>>>>> have some time and could take a stab at it from the info and photos I've
>>>>> received.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Lugg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/25/20 9:26 PM, asandrini wrote:
>>>>>> Sorry, fat fingers hit the sent button and not the attach button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photos attached this time.
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: asandrini <asandrini@...>
>>>>>> Date: 1/25/20 8:23 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>> To: HOn3@groups.io, asandrini@...
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been asked to post a couple of pictures of my Kappler Lumber
>>>>>> Company lumber yard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photos attached.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: "kevin b via Groups.Io" <arcatruck13@...>
>>>>>> Date: 1/25/20 6:01 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>> To: HOn3@groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any chance you'd post a photo or two of that box?
>>>>>> i'd like a shot at making one as my lumber yard is in tubes and
>>>>>> scattered to the winds etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had saved mailing tubes to store the lumber, and labeled the tubes
>>>>>> with the sizes. It was a mess and took up a lot of space. One day
>>>>>> Frank walked into my shop and presented me with 7x8x28 inch, 7 drawer
>>>>>> box. The drawers had dividers to hold HO scale 1x2's through 12x12's,
>>>>>> plus two bottom drawers to hold his siding material.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Kevin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


Re: Remembering Frank Kappler

John Stutz
 

My alternative:

A couple 2"x 2"x 24" mailing boxes on end. The wood is in the original polyethylene sleeves, one sleeve per size, each stick labeled with the scale size at the top end. Multiple sizes of one thickness may be rubber banded together, which can help keep hewer 12" stock from collecting at the sleeve's bottom.

Much the same for Evergreen styrene, except the rubber banded sets of sleeves occupy about 6" width of a 10" deep shelf.

For wire, I use 12" lengths of roughly 3/4" lightweight PVC pipe, one end plugged inside about 1/2" deep. Into these go a set of seven roughly 1/4" K&S aluminum tubes, also plugged at one end and labeled for thickness.. These each take a single size of wire, or thickness of rectangular stock.. Small brass tubing and shapes go into a plane PVC tube. Brass and steel in separate tubes. The tubes go lose in a box, again horizontal on a shelf. No order in the box, but it is pretty obvious which is what.

Works for me, while using minimal shop volume.

John Stutz

On March 12, 2020 at 4:17 PM Climax@... wrote:


Vertical storage sounds good until you go to use it. Each tube must be removable to get the shorter pieces out. I use the Very very old, like 60 year old cardboard tubes with metal ends that Northeastern use to send their strip wood out in from the 1960's. I have tubes with the size on the end plus L H,Z, types of special shapes on the tube cap. It kind of helps but the tubes are still a pain when I put caps on the wrong ones. hahhaha I stored it vertically and horizontally and it was a pain either way. I believe that drawers with the wood laying flat is the best solution. Even with Northeastern long wood, it can be cut to fit. We need to think of where would it be stored, mostly on a shelf. In addition we need to keep in mind that people will probably try to stack other things on it so the outside box would need to be stout. Also if they order multiple units and try to stack them together, a form of locking them together would be a good idea such as a wiggle and wiggle tab on either end would suffice. I am taking these ideas off a list I made up to satisfy all customers.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Lugg <luggw1@...>
>Sent: Mar 12, 2020 4:58 PM
>To: HOn3@groups.io
>Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>
>I see what you mean about getting to material in the back of the
>drawers.  The only problem with orienting in the other direction for
>long wood is the footprint of the cabinet.  Personally, I don't believe
>I'd have the space to accommodate a 26" deep cabinet.
>
>However, I believe I can come up with a design (a couple actually) that
>would satisfy both camps well enough.  Let me see what I can do.
>
>Bill
>
>
>On 3/12/20 2:42 PM, Climax@... wrote:
>> Yes, crosswise with the seemingly prefered way. My only objection to it is the wood stored in the back of the drawer would be hard to get to. That was the only reason for the option of turning it 90 degrees.
>> Maybe an optional drawer add on for the sheet wood flat or vertical storage could be an option as well.
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bill Lugg <luggw1@...>
>>> Sent: Mar 12, 2020 3:38 PM
>>> To: HOn3@groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>
>>> No problem, I'll see what I can come up with.  As I recall we all agreed
>>> on a cabinet similar to the original with the wood stored crosswise, right?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Bill Lugg
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/12/20 1:28 PM, Climax@... wrote:
>>>> I'm sorry Bill, I started it and got side tracked with all the virus stuff and my Masonic Lodge duties. Besides that the NMRA Sunshine Region which I am the President of, is giving me a fit as directors are not doing the jobs they signed on to do.
>>>> I will willingly relinquish the job for now and when I get them done I will still forward them to you for your evaluation. Who knows, yours might even be better than what I was thinking anyway.
>>>> DAve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Bill Lugg <luggw1@...>
>>>>> Sent: Mar 12, 2020 3:15 PM
>>>>> To: HOn3@groups.io
>>>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>>>
>>>>> Has any progress been made with drawings of this cabinet?  If not, I
>>>>> have some time and could take a stab at it from the info and photos I've
>>>>> received.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Lugg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/25/20 9:26 PM, asandrini wrote:
>>>>>> Sorry, fat fingers hit the sent button and not the attach button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photos attached this time.
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: asandrini <asandrini@...>
>>>>>> Date: 1/25/20 8:23 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>> To: HOn3@groups.io, asandrini@...
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been asked to post a couple of pictures of my Kappler Lumber
>>>>>> Company lumber yard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photos attached.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: "kevin b via Groups.Io" <arcatruck13@...>
>>>>>> Date: 1/25/20 6:01 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>> To: HOn3@groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [HOn3] Remembering Frank Kappler
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any chance you'd post a photo or two of that box?
>>>>>> i'd like a shot at making one as my lumber yard is in tubes and
>>>>>> scattered to the winds etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had saved mailing tubes to store the lumber, and labeled the tubes
>>>>>> with the sizes. It was a mess and took up a lot of space. One day
>>>>>> Frank walked into my shop and presented me with 7x8x28 inch, 7 drawer
>>>>>> box. The drawers had dividers to hold HO scale 1x2's through 12x12's,
>>>>>> plus two bottom drawers to hold his siding material.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Kevin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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Re: San Juan

Clifford Mestel
 

San Juan's telephone number is 303-916-1601

In a message dated 3/3/2020 8:20:54 AM Mountain Standard Time, Railroadguy1957@... writes:

I’m trying to call San Juan. Can anyone give me their number. I can’t seem to find it on their website.

Thanks

Mike “Rustler” Mackey


Re: Wanted pipe gon kits

Clifford Mestel
 

Hi Mr. Lehrer;

We at Trout Creek Engineering have some in stock for $32 plus shipping.

Clifford A. Mestel
Trout Creek Engineering

In a message dated 3/11/2020 11:36:21 AM Mountain Standard Time, lloydlehrer@... writes:

Anybody got some collecting dust or hiding in a dark corner, let me know with price.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

--
lloyd lehrer

Re: Missing instructions

Robert Bell
 

Thanks Dusty!  Perfect!!

Actually, I am going to modify it to be 0556, later SN, latter U.S.A. 90853 (in service on the White Pass & Yukon Route).

Thanks again!

Rob Bell
Waynesville, NC

Re: Missing instructions

Dusty
 

This kit might also be the best start/stand in for a 0573. Based on page 65 of the Grandt caboose book 0573 had side windows high on the sides. Brake reservoir outboard of intermediate sills. Cupola looks to set a bit higher than kit. Base molding may be causing an optical delusion with regard to cupola height. Bent coupler lift rods may indicate wood buffers.

For what it's worth.

Dusty Burman

Re: Missing instructions

Dusty
 

Quickie scan.

Missing instructions

Robert Bell
 

Howdy!

Does anyone have access to a PSC D&RGW short caboose kit?  Specifically, for kit number 10674.1, #0577, #0578...  Though, I doubt if they had different instructions for the different numbers.  Anyway, I cannot find the instructions for my kit, so would someone be able to scan or copy them and emailtsnail-mail to me?

Thanks!

Rob Bell 
Waynesville, NC

Re: Remembering Frank Kappler

kevin b
 

Has any progress been made with drawings of this cabinet? If not, I
have some time and could take a stab at it from the info and photos I've
received.

Bill Lugg


I have not made any drawings, however, I have cut out the wood to make 3 drawers.
things have gone "busy" around here and I had to set the project aside.
as soon as I can get back on it, i'll assemble what I have ready and post a pic or two.

in an attempt to minimize cost, I am using "scraps" I have on hand.
IF my drawers turn out as I want them to, i'll gather more material and finish the whole project, drawers and cabinet.

I will try to make progress on the thing this weekend.

more to follow.
Kevin.

Re: Kadee N scale couplers.

asandrini
 

Keith and Dale split the company with Kadee keeping all HO,  O and G gauges, while Microtrains concentrating on HOn3, N and Z Scale.

With the N Scale RTR cars growing so quickly that the 80's it made sense that they would need add pace for their lines separate from the larger gauges. The separation allowed both companies to grow.

The whole Kadee N Scale line of couplers are still available from Microtrains.

Big Al from Cal


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: bassb04011 <fishingmaine@...>
Date: 3/12/20 4:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Kadee N scale couplers.

Micro Trains
Brian 


On Mar 12, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Ed Tibbetts via Groups.Io <tippytib@...> wrote:

I have a few Kadee N scale couplers. I would like to get more, but Kadee no longer makes them. Can someone tell me who took over Kadee’s N scale couplers and if they are still available.

Re: Kadee N scale couplers.

Jim Marlett
 

Dang! If I wasn’t such a bad typist, I’d turn off autocorrect. Magne-Matic couplers.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/

On Mar 12, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@...> wrote:

I believe Kadee N scale couplers are now Micro-Trans Magnetisms-Matic couplers.

Re: Kadee N scale couplers.

Ed Tibbetts
 
Edited

Micro trains 1025 is what I want. Thanks for the assistance😊🚂
I have some coming from Ric Chase.
Ed T

Re: Kadee N scale couplers.

bassb04011
 

Micro Trains
Brian 


On Mar 12, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Ed Tibbetts via Groups.Io <tippytib@...> wrote:

I have a few Kadee N scale couplers. I would like to get more, but Kadee no longer makes them. Can someone tell me who took over Kadee’s N scale couplers and if they are still available.

Re: Kadee N scale couplers.

Jim Marlett
 

I believe Kadee N scale couplers are now Micro-Trans Magnetisms-Matic couplers.

https://www.micro-trains.com/index.php?_route_=n-scale/magne-matic-couplers

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


On Mar 12, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Ed Tibbetts via Groups.Io <tippytib@...> wrote:

I have a few Kadee N scale couplers. I would like to get more, but Kadee no longer makes them. Can someone tell me who took over Kadee’s N scale couplers and if they are still available.

Re: Rico Depot, Ridgway Depot kits once again in production

John Short
 

I have built both of these kits, and they are great!

John Short
Durango to Ridgway in HOn3, 1940

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 02:55:45 PM EDT, RAGG <raggs@...> wrote:


For those that may have missed out a few years back, Lori is now running
a few Ridgway Depot and Rico Depot HO kits. We had to raise the price to
$275 each (sorry), plus $10/order shipping.

You can order by going to: www.raggstoriches.com

RAGG




Re: Kadee N scale couplers.

Ed Tibbetts
 

I’m replacing the pilot couplers on 6 brass HOn3 loco’s for the fourth time. So, maybe 7 or 8 couplers. I’ll try to call you around 8:00pm eastern time.
Ed T.  781-854-8249