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Re: Filling holes

Mike Van Hove
 

That’s exactly the situation I encountered.
Yes, the sealed Poly bag is a good idea, I just didn’t stumble onto it until it was too late.
I use that now it does work.
I also found the end caps on Squadron Putty aren’t very strong, and if you tighten them (fingers only) the threads strip out or the cap cracks.

Thank for your input.

Mike Van Hove

On Sep 8, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Climax@... wrote:

In reference to tubes of glue or squadron putty drying out i the tubes.  I had that same problem once I opened up the tubes.  Seems as though the cap just doesn't seal all that well no matter how much torque you put on it, and then again who cleans the threads and top all that well after we use a dab here or there?  I ended up putting the tubes in at first a sealed glass jar, then a plastic zip lock bag, squeezed out as much air as I could and sealed them inside. That seemed to make the tubes last at least 4 or 5 times longer.  That's a problem in our hobby though, opening things and thinking they will last forever.  Think about it, some paints, tubes of this or that, we use a bit here or there and expect it to last forever, years, decades, and then get mad when a decade down the road we reach over and open it up only to find it hard as a rock.  I have some Floquil paints that I purchased in square bottles from the early 1960's that are still good paints.  I clean the tops of the jars and the inside of the cap before I reseal them, then store them all upside down to let the pigment add to the seal.  Time gets to everything though and the tiniest seal penetration in a cap will vent over time.  It has something to do with atmospheric pressure movement, or Murphies Law from what I am told.

DB

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dusty 
Sent: Sep 7, 2018 10:58 PM 
To: HOn3@groups.io 
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Filling holes 

There are probably as many ways as there are modelers.

In styrene I have glued Grandt or Evergreen rod in holes. Let it get very dry and hard and shrunken. I cut them off as flush as possible. I use Gunze Sanyo Mr Surfacer  1000 as a fine sanding filler. I sand with 400 and then 600 wet sandpaper. I have Tamiya 1000 and 500 but I haven't used them yet. I'm not a putty user but that would work as well I assume.


In soft metal I've used ACC and filled and sanded as above.

A lot depends on how close to details the holes to be filled are.

Dusty Burman 


Re: NNGC

Lee Gustafson
 

I’m at the show and can confirm they are going to do HOn3.


On Sep 8, 2018, at 8:46 AM, Mark Lewis <narrowrails12@...> wrote:

Mark:

This photo from San Juan Model Co., clearly states RTR HOn3 tank cars will be coming.

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Mark Lewis
Stony Point, NC

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Mark Kasprowicz <marowicz@...> wrote:
Dale are you sure about the HOn3 versions? When I looked at the site it promoted On3/ On30 and HO. In other words no 'n3'.

I hope I'm wrong.

Mark K
Durango CO.



Re: NNGC

Mark Lewis
 

Mark:

This photo from San Juan Model Co., clearly states RTR HOn3 tank cars will be coming.



Mark Lewis
Stony Point, NC

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Mark Kasprowicz <marowicz@...> wrote:
Dale are you sure about the HOn3 versions? When I looked at the site it promoted On3/ On30 and HO. In other words no 'n3'.

I hope I'm wrong.

Mark K
Durango CO.



Re: Filling holes

Climax@...
 

In reference to tubes of glue or squadron putty drying out i the tubes.  I had that same problem once I opened up the tubes.  Seems as though the cap just doesn't seal all that well no matter how much torque you put on it, and then again who cleans the threads and top all that well after we use a dab here or there?  I ended up putting the tubes in at first a sealed glass jar, then a plastic zip lock bag, squeezed out as much air as I could and sealed them inside. That seemed to make the tubes last at least 4 or 5 times longer.  That's a problem in our hobby though, opening things and thinking they will last forever.  Think about it, some paints, tubes of this or that, we use a bit here or there and expect it to last forever, years, decades, and then get mad when a decade down the road we reach over and open it up only to find it hard as a rock.  I have some Floquil paints that I purchased in square bottles from the early 1960's that are still good paints.  I clean the tops of the jars and the inside of the cap before I reseal them, then store them all upside down to let the pigment add to the seal.  Time gets to everything though and the tiniest seal penetration in a cap will vent over time.  It has something to do with atmospheric pressure movement, or Murphies Law from what I am told.

DB

-----Original Message-----
From: Dusty
Sent: Sep 7, 2018 10:58 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Filling holes

There are probably as many ways as there are modelers.

In styrene I have glued Grandt or Evergreen rod in holes. Let it get very dry and hard and shrunken. I cut them off as flush as possible. I use Gunze Sanyo Mr Surfacer  1000 as a fine sanding filler. I sand with 400 and then 600 wet sandpaper. I have Tamiya 1000 and 500 but I haven't used them yet. I'm not a putty user but that would work as well I assume.


In soft metal I've used ACC and filled and sanded as above.

A lot depends on how close to details the holes to be filled are.

Dusty Burman 


Re: NNGC

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Dale are you sure about the HOn3 versions? When I looked at the site it promoted On3/ On30 and HO. In other words no 'n3'.

I hope I'm wrong.

Mark K
Durango CO.


Re: Filling holes

Mick Moignard
 

Baking powder fixed in with thin ACC and then sanded. Or the styrene rod method.

Mick

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Re: NNGC

Craig Linn
 

That’d be great Dale. I look forward to that. Perhaps we will start getting some more models now from San Juan too. 

Very cool. 

Craig

On Sep 7, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Dale Buxton <dbtuathaddana@...> wrote:

Didn't go so I don't know. But! Has anyone been to the new San Juan Models Co. web site and seen the announcement of the tall and fat domed Conoco tank cars in HOn3 and On3? I'm pumped about this.

Dale Buxton 


Re: Filling holes

asandrini
 

Correct, RC 56  and Formula 560 is a Pacer product.

Al



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-------- Original message --------
From: Mike Van Hove <vanhovem22@...>
Date: 9/7/18 8:10 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Filling holes

Oh, yah, the name just came to me:  It’s “Pacer Canopy Glue”

Mike.

On Sep 7, 2018, at 10:08 PM, Mike Van Hove <vanhovem22@...> wrote:

I’ve also used round toothpicks, cut off above the hole, and sanded flat.

ACC, Cockpit Glue, (Can’t think of the proper name), and/or white glue or Titebond all work well.  Tire bond will shrink a tiny bit.

My use of the Squadron Putty is, the first time I use it, it works fine, the next time I (really) need it, the darn stuff is half dried out and doesn’t work very well.

Mike Van Hove

On Sep 7, 2018, at 9:58 PM, Dusty <dustburm@q.com> wrote:

There are probably as many ways as there are modelers.

In styrene I have glued Grandt or Evergreen rod in holes. Let it get very dry and hard and shrunken. I cut them off as flush as possible. I use Gunze Sanyo Mr Surfacer  1000 as a fine sanding filler. I sand with 400 and then 600 wet sandpaper. I have Tamiya 1000 and 500 but I haven't used them yet. I'm not a putty user but that would work as well I assume.


In soft metal I've used ACC and filled and sanded as above.

A lot depends on how close to details the holes to be filled are.

Dusty Burman 



Re: Filling holes

asandrini
 

Cockpit glue = RC56 until 2006, then became Formula 560.

Same as Microscale Krystal Clear, 

Al



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Mike Van Hove <vanhovem22@...>
Date: 9/7/18 8:08 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Filling holes

I’ve also used round toothpicks, cut off above the hole, and sanded flat.

ACC, Cockpit Glue, (Can’t think of the proper name), and/or white glue or Titebond all work well.  Tire bond will shrink a tiny bit.

My use of the Squadron Putty is, the first time I use it, it works fine, the next time I (really) need it, the darn stuff is half dried out and doesn’t work very well.

Mike Van Hove

On Sep 7, 2018, at 9:58 PM, Dusty <dustburm@q.com> wrote:

There are probably as many ways as there are modelers.

In styrene I have glued Grandt or Evergreen rod in holes. Let it get very dry and hard and shrunken. I cut them off as flush as possible. I use Gunze Sanyo Mr Surfacer  1000 as a fine sanding filler. I sand with 400 and then 600 wet sandpaper. I have Tamiya 1000 and 500 but I haven't used them yet. I'm not a putty user but that would work as well I assume.


In soft metal I've used ACC and filled and sanded as above.

A lot depends on how close to details the holes to be filled are.

Dusty Burman 


Re: Filling holes

Mike Van Hove
 

Oh, yah, the name just came to me:  It’s “Pacer Canopy Glue”

Mike.

On Sep 7, 2018, at 10:08 PM, Mike Van Hove <vanhovem22@...> wrote:

I’ve also used round toothpicks, cut off above the hole, and sanded flat.

ACC, Cockpit Glue, (Can’t think of the proper name), and/or white glue or Titebond all work well.  Tire bond will shrink a tiny bit.

My use of the Squadron Putty is, the first time I use it, it works fine, the next time I (really) need it, the darn stuff is half dried out and doesn’t work very well.

Mike Van Hove

On Sep 7, 2018, at 9:58 PM, Dusty <dustburm@q.com> wrote:

There are probably as many ways as there are modelers.

In styrene I have glued Grandt or Evergreen rod in holes. Let it get very dry and hard and shrunken. I cut them off as flush as possible. I use Gunze Sanyo Mr Surfacer  1000 as a fine sanding filler. I sand with 400 and then 600 wet sandpaper. I have Tamiya 1000 and 500 but I haven't used them yet. I'm not a putty user but that would work as well I assume.


In soft metal I've used ACC and filled and sanded as above.

A lot depends on how close to details the holes to be filled are.

Dusty Burman 



Re: Filling holes

Mike Van Hove
 

I’ve also used round toothpicks, cut off above the hole, and sanded flat.

ACC, Cockpit Glue, (Can’t think of the proper name), and/or white glue or Titebond all work well.  Tire bond will shrink a tiny bit.

My use of the Squadron Putty is, the first time I use it, it works fine, the next time I (really) need it, the darn stuff is half dried out and doesn’t work very well.

Mike Van Hove

On Sep 7, 2018, at 9:58 PM, Dusty <dustburm@q.com> wrote:

There are probably as many ways as there are modelers.

In styrene I have glued Grandt or Evergreen rod in holes. Let it get very dry and hard and shrunken. I cut them off as flush as possible. I use Gunze Sanyo Mr Surfacer  1000 as a fine sanding filler. I sand with 400 and then 600 wet sandpaper. I have Tamiya 1000 and 500 but I haven't used them yet. I'm not a putty user but that would work as well I assume.


In soft metal I've used ACC and filled and sanded as above.

A lot depends on how close to details the holes to be filled are.

Dusty Burman 


Re: Filling holes

Dusty
 

There are probably as many ways as there are modelers.

In styrene I have glued Grandt or Evergreen rod in holes. Let it get very dry and hard and shrunken. I cut them off as flush as possible. I use Gunze Sanyo Mr Surfacer  1000 as a fine sanding filler. I sand with 400 and then 600 wet sandpaper. I have Tamiya 1000 and 500 but I haven't used them yet. I'm not a putty user but that would work as well I assume.


In soft metal I've used ACC and filled and sanded as above.

A lot depends on how close to details the holes to be filled are.

Dusty Burman 


Re: NNGC

Dale Buxton
 

Didn't go so I don't know. But! Has anyone been to the new San Juan Models Co. web site and seen the announcement of the tall and fat domed Conoco tank cars in HOn3 and On3? I'm pumped about this.

Dale Buxton 


Re: Filling holes

Darryl Huffman
 

I use spackling compound.  When dry I "sand", not with sandpaper but with a wet sponge to get a smooth surface.  Let dry.

Sometimes I will put a drop of thin ACC on it to hold it in place and strengthen it.

But usually I don't use the ACC.

Normally I use acrylic paint 

Acrylic paint will help hold this dot of dried sparkle in place.

Darryl Huffman
darrylhuffman@...


On Friday, September 7, 2018, 6:19 PM, Climax@... <Climax@...> wrote:

I use super glue when I know I won't be drilling there again.  I put it on with a tooth pick point.  Sometimes I will use squadron Putty when I know I might be drilling a hole around the area.
DB

-----Original Message-----
From: alankilby@...
Sent: Sep 7, 2018 3:41 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Filling holes

I have small drill(#68 drill and larger)holes and pits in soft metal and plastic castings I wish to fill.What methods have others used to hide these.
Alan


Re: Jim Vail article on customizing Blackstone locos and rolling stock?

NarrowMinded1
 

It wasn't in any of the HOn3 Annuals. Maybe NGSLG or MR or RMC? Any help would bee greatly appreciated. Will also accept articles from other authors. Thank you!
--
Nathan M. Kline
McConnellsburg, PA 17233


Re: NNGC

Mark Lewis
 

Craig:

Regarding news from Blackstone, at the 2018 NNGC....I touched base with Ray Kaminski- owner of Crusader Rail Services- a large Blackstone dealer, if Blackstone had any news for dealers or the public and this was Ray's reply: "Mark- the only news we heard is that the next run of reefers is hopefully due by the end of the year. That’s it". No comments on the K28/36 project, re-issuing of out stock rolling stock or C19 or K27's or truck sets, or....nothing. Take it for what it's worth..... 

Mark Lewis

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Craig Linn <drgw346@...> wrote:
howdy Folks. 

Anyone attending the NNGC?  Any new products coming / or updates on late products (such as Blackstone K-36/K-28?

Thanks for the update. 

Craig



Re: Filling holes

Climax@...
 

I use super glue when I know I won't be drilling there again.  I put it on with a tooth pick point.  Sometimes I will use squadron Putty when I know I might be drilling a hole around the area.
DB

-----Original Message-----
From: alankilby@...
Sent: Sep 7, 2018 3:41 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Filling holes

I have small drill(#68 drill and larger)holes and pits in soft metal and plastic castings I wish to fill.What methods have others used to hide these.
Alan


Filling holes

Alan Kilby
 

I have small drill(#68 drill and larger)holes and pits in soft metal and plastic castings I wish to fill.What methods have others used to hide these.
Alan


NNGC

Craig Linn
 

howdy Folks. 

Anyone attending the NNGC?  Any new products coming / or updates on late products (such as Blackstone K-36/K-28?

Thanks for the update. 

Craig


New Arrendelle Reefer

ckodani@...
 

Here’s a new reefer that showed up on the Buena Vista today! Chris Kodani

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