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Re: HOn3 PSC DL535 question

TED
 

Well with 4 of them going to the Durango and Silverton they just may get their wish. Although the D&S is saying they wont be painted in Rio Grande paint. Hey who knows, with the DL535 coming to the continental US someone might do them in HO.
Ted

Re: Sound decoder for NWSK Dunkirk

Russ Norris
 

Any of you get your Dunkirks from David Hoffman?  He's been trying to interest me in one for years.

Russ

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 9:15 AM Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:
Inquiring minds want to know for sure. My Dunkirk is ready for DCC too! =)

--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/

Re: Sound decoder for NWSK Dunkirk

Brian Kopp
 

Inquiring minds want to know for sure. My Dunkirk is ready for DCC too! =)

--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL

Re: wanted: original Tsunami1 for Blackstone C19

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Actually there's much more reason to fit a TSU 1100 to a Blackstone K-27 than a C-19. The C-19's souind files are far more superior both in quality and editing than the K-27 which sounds just like the old TSU1 (which of course it is.) So if the much increaded flexibility of the TSU2 is of no conseqence then choosing the original factory board makes sense.

Mark K

Re: wanted: original Tsunami1 for Blackstone C19

hiroechan
 

a couple of reasons for choosing the factory Tsunami 1:
-I'm generally not big on sound, so I usually dial it way down to about 55, from the factory default of 192 (I like it to make *some* noise, but not a *big* noise)
-it will hopefully be cheaper

-it will hopefully be a drop-in so I don't have to cut/solder any wires
-the speed table will match my other existing factory-decodered C19's, so I don't have to build a custom one. (this is the primary reason, more than any other.)

--Drew McCann


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:40 PM Russ Norris <rbnorrisjr@...> wrote:
I just replaced the TSU-750 I put in my EBT M-1 gas electric motorcar years ago.  I installed a brand new TSU-1100.  Not only does it run cooler, it takes up half the space.  The sound quality is vastly superior too.  All of which makes me wonder why you would want to replace your TSU-750 with its twin?  

Russ

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 7:41 PM Jim Spencer <trainmanjs@...> wrote:

 

Whoops, I discovered my Micro Tsunami (TSU 750) is actually a K-Class.  But here is a website that seems to offer the whole suite of TSU-750s:  yankeedabbler.com

I checked and their website shows the D&RGW C-Class TSU 750 part# 678-826016 in stock for $77.95 which includes shipping. 

I suspect that Yankee Dabbler bought out the remaining stock of the Sound Trax 1000s and 750s.


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/

Re: Sound decoder for NWSK Dunkirk

Climax@...
 

Yes, basically a Dunkirk was a Heisler with the cylinders in the cab.  How are you going to cram DCC and sound into that tiny locomotive?  I have one and barely had room to put a fireman and engineer in the cab

-----Original Message-----
From: asandrini
Sent: Apr 13, 2020 9:30 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Sound decoder for NWSK Dunkirk

I have two NWSL Dunkirk locos, which I want to install DCC and sound.  Having never heard the sound of a Dunkirk loco, I am guessing it would be very similar to that of a Heisler. 

Would this be correct?


Thanks,


Al



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Jim Spencer <trainmanjs@...>
Date: 4/13/20 4:41 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] wanted: original Tsunami1 for Blackstone C19

 

Whoops, I discovered my Micro Tsunami (TSU 750) is actually a K-Class.  But here is a website that seems to offer the whole suite of TSU-750s:  yankeedabbler.com

I checked and their website shows the D&RGW C-Class TSU 750 part# 678-826016 in stock for $77.95 which includes shipping. 

I suspect that Yankee Dabbler bought out the remaining stock of the Sound Trax 1000s and 750s.

Sound decoder for NWSK Dunkirk

asandrini
 

I have two NWSL Dunkirk locos, which I want to install DCC and sound.  Having never heard the sound of a Dunkirk loco, I am guessing it would be very similar to that of a Heisler. 

Would this be correct?


Thanks,


Al



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Jim Spencer <trainmanjs@...>
Date: 4/13/20 4:41 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] wanted: original Tsunami1 for Blackstone C19

 

Whoops, I discovered my Micro Tsunami (TSU 750) is actually a K-Class.  But here is a website that seems to offer the whole suite of TSU-750s:  yankeedabbler.com

I checked and their website shows the D&RGW C-Class TSU 750 part# 678-826016 in stock for $77.95 which includes shipping. 

I suspect that Yankee Dabbler bought out the remaining stock of the Sound Trax 1000s and 750s.

Re: wanted: original Tsunami1 for Blackstone C19

Russ Norris
 

I just replaced the TSU-750 I put in my EBT M-1 gas electric motorcar years ago.  I installed a brand new TSU-1100.  Not only does it run cooler, it takes up half the space.  The sound quality is vastly superior too.  All of which makes me wonder why you would want to replace your TSU-750 with its twin?  

Russ

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 7:41 PM Jim Spencer <trainmanjs@...> wrote:

 

Whoops, I discovered my Micro Tsunami (TSU 750) is actually a K-Class.  But here is a website that seems to offer the whole suite of TSU-750s:  yankeedabbler.com

I checked and their website shows the D&RGW C-Class TSU 750 part# 678-826016 in stock for $77.95 which includes shipping. 

I suspect that Yankee Dabbler bought out the remaining stock of the Sound Trax 1000s and 750s.


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/

Re: HOn3 PSC DL535 question

Jim Spencer
 

I, too, have a pair of unpainted DL-535s.  Like the two in the photo painted Rio Grande, I bought mine with the same idea: to make them what-might-have-been Rio Grande. I also have a pair of "shovelnose" GE 90s that I have planned to paint with the aspen gold four stripe scheme and pull modern dome passenger cars, again what-might-have-been. 

I rode the White Pass from Whitehorse to Skagway in 1973.  These locos brought back some memories.  73, their 2-8-2 was sitting on display out in the weather in front of Lake Bennett.  Glad to see it was restored and operating.  And I have seen one of the three full width cab versions of the DL-535 on the Plaster City RR in way southern California.

I wonder how many of them were sold to Rio Grande fans who had the same idea. 

Also, when in Peru, I rode behind the 3' gauge DL-535s on the railroad to Machu Pichu and saw some of the shovel noses in Argentina on their meter gauge, maybe also in Equador on their 3'-6" gauge.  I suspect there is a market for these models south of the Equator.

Re: HOn3 PSC DL535 question

Mike Conder
 

Update on the D&S ...

Keep Mark K's photos, may become real.

Mike Conder


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:58 PM John Stutz <john.stutz@...> wrote:
Actually Mark, I believe that the Iron Horse DL535E's center axle and gear must be in the truck in order to power the outer axle. Its a rather busy design, with three idlers between each axle gear, and one of the idlers between the inner axles powered from the worm gear. There is appreciable lost motion between the outer axle and the one most directly driven.

John Stutz

On April 13, 2020 at 1:15 PM Mark Kasprowicz <marowicz@...> wrote:

I'd agree with that. The lucky part is that they put the axles and gears back in. Sort of reminds me of when we were still restoring D&RGW 315 in Santa Rita Park. Sometime early in its retirement, someone had removed all the boiler plugs and then thought to throw them in the firebox. Saved the boiler.

Mark K

 

Re: wanted: original Tsunami1 for Blackstone C19

Jim Spencer
 

 

Whoops, I discovered my Micro Tsunami (TSU 750) is actually a K-Class.  But here is a website that seems to offer the whole suite of TSU-750s:  yankeedabbler.com

I checked and their website shows the D&RGW C-Class TSU 750 part# 678-826016 in stock for $77.95 which includes shipping. 

I suspect that Yankee Dabbler bought out the remaining stock of the Sound Trax 1000s and 750s.

Re: wanted: original Tsunami1 for Blackstone C19

Jim Spencer
 

I have a C-class Micro Tsunami, if that is what you are looking for. I will sell if for about $75, what I paid for it, plus postage. Let me know.
jim

Re: HOn3 PSC DL535 question

John Stutz
 

Actually Mark, I believe that the Iron Horse DL535E's center axle and gear must be in the truck in order to power the outer axle. Its a rather busy design, with three idlers between each axle gear, and one of the idlers between the inner axles powered from the worm gear. There is appreciable lost motion between the outer axle and the one most directly driven.

John Stutz

On April 13, 2020 at 1:15 PM Mark Kasprowicz <marowicz@...> wrote:

I'd agree with that. The lucky part is that they put the axles and gears back in. Sort of reminds me of when we were still restoring D&RGW 315 in Santa Rita Park. Sometime early in its retirement, someone had removed all the boiler plugs and then thought to throw them in the firebox. Saved the boiler.

Mark K

 

Re: HOn3 PSC DL535 question

Mark Kasprowicz
 

I'd agree with that. The lucky part is that they put the axles and gears back in. Sort of reminds me of when we were still restoring D&RGW 315 in Santa Rita Park. Sometime early in its retirement, someone had removed all the boiler plugs and then thought to throw them in the firebox. Saved the boiler.

Mark K

Re: HOn3 PSC DL535 question

Robert Bell
 

John & Sean,
I remember somebody did an article using an old AHM Alco C420 body to replicate the DL535.  Is that the same article?  If so I have it somewhere.

Rob

Re: DSP&P original Forks Creek bridge

John Stutz
 

Ed

I seem to recall seeing a RoW map of this section of the Colorado Central, reproduced in one of the histories that focused on this area.   I am not at all sure of the date, which might have been from the post-USRA valuation period.  My interest was in the wooden culverts which were called out on the map, so if it covered the bridge site, there will be dimensions and a descriptive note.  But for the life of me I cannot recall where I saw it.  Possibly in one of Harry Brunk's articles?   Possibly in the Klinger's "C&S Clear Creek District Memories"?

Perhaps someone will recall more details.

John Stutz


April 8, 2020 at 5:34 PM Ed Weldon <23.weldon@...> wrote:


Does anyone here have a dimensional drawing of the DSP&P original Forks Creek bridge (not the later C&S replacement). Or know where I can find one? There was a nice model Jim Vail made on his layout; but I never got a chance to measure it or study it closely.  I'm trying to develop an HO scale plan of it from the available old photos, but I'd love to compare what I'm doing with the work of someone before me.  Does there exist an actual drawing of the original that doesn't hide behind a big pay-wall?  My attempt will only have to look convincing from 3 ft and I may have to shorten it a bit to get it to fit in the available space.
Ed Weldon

Re: HOn3 PSC DL535 question

John Stutz
 

Sean

Someone has modeled the White Pass in HO SG using ALCo RSDs as the basis for DL535Es.  I am probably recalling James Eakin's article in Short & Narrow Rails #23.  There was also an article on doing the wide style cab, in the April 1991 RMC.  Most of the detail castings used in Iron Horse Model's HOn3 DL535Es are available from Precision Scale, in both styrene and brass.  

The references are from Eakin's "Modeling the White Pass", Railhead Publications, nd.  This reproduces most of what has been published in the modeling press, as well as a good deal of RR sourced material, and should be on the shelf of anyone interested in the White Pass,

John Stutz

On April 12, 2020 at 4:33 PM Sean <Cndrsean@...> wrote:

Has anybody over the years know if anyone published an article, gazette, RMC, MR, on kitbashing one of these in HOn3 from plastic, just curious?
 Sean

Re: HOn3 PSC DL535 question

Mike Conder
 


On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 3:33 PM Sean <Cndrsean@...> wrote:
Has anybody over the years know if anyone published an article, gazette, RMC, MR, on kitbashing one of these in HOn3 from plastic, just curious?
 Sean


On Apr 12, 2020, at 14:28, Robert Bell via groups.io <ionhoss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thank you all for the advice, pictures, and documents!  Y'all are great!

Rob

Re: Ad: NEW HO/HOn3 Broad Top Mountain Models East Broad Top RR Machine Shop Kits arrived!

rckwallaby
 

It’s still travelling Ric. 
Left Dulles Airport yesterday bound for somewhere, likely just Los Angeles. 
This calamity around us is slowing things up. Might get here in another week. 

Cheers
Phil


On 13 Apr 2020, at 8:42 am, Ric Case <ebtmodeler@...> wrote:

Phil did you receive your model of the engine repair shop?

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Mar 29, 2020, at 6:50 PM, rckwallaby <pmo77304@...> wrote:

Cool. 

Look forward you that. 

Not sure what/if I’ll do with the Broad Top Mountain Models Machine Shop kits. I have this design / half build of an engine shed / machine shop / car shop that morphs an FSM engine shed with the EBT style and characteristics of their engine facilities complex. 
Sounds terrible in words but I’m pretty happy with the design. Just very slow on the build. Thought getting one of these kits might help motivate me to complete mine. 

Cheers
Phil


On 30 Mar 2020, at 1:36 am, Ric Case <ebtmodeler@...> wrote:

Phil have added to and upgraded a lot of the scenery! I need to do another video as a good bit has been added 

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Mar 29, 2020, at 9:53 AM, rckwallaby <pmo77304@...> wrote:



Hi Ric.

 

I’m an HOn3 Freelance Modeller who’s a fan of the EBT and has a lot of HOn3 EBT stuff.

I have most of the Hallmark EBT locos, a couple of the Hallmark Coal Hoppers and about 50 of the Blackstone EBT Hoppers.

I visited Orbsonia/Rockhill and Mt Union in 2005.

Been fascinated with the EBT facilities there. A print of Ted Rose’s ‘Mount Union Train’ hangs in my study.

Not currently active with HOn3 modelling, got distracted by HO brass and Sn3 logging.

 

I’ve watched the video of your layout several times. Pretty impressive.

Good work there.

 

Regards

Phil Morrow

Sunshine Coast

Australia

 

From: HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ric Case
Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2020 9:54 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Ad: NEW HO/HOn3 Broad Top Mountain Models East Broad Top RR Machine Shop Kits arrived!

 

Phil are you an EBT modeler? 

Ric Case 

EBT Modeler 

Hamilton Ohio 

1-513-375-7694



On Mar 29, 2020, at 1:07 AM, rckwallaby <pmo77304@...> wrote:



That’s a pretty humungous box.

Wonder what that will look like once it’s flown half way round the world?

About to find out I am.

 

Phil

 

From: HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io> On Behalf Of NarrowMinded1
Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2020 9:33 AM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Ad: NEW HO/HOn3 Broad Top Mountain Models East Broad Top RR Machine Shop Kits arrived!

 

They've arrived, they've arrived!

The HO/HOn3 EBT Machine Shop kits have arrived! If you haven't ordered yours yet click on the link below to place your order!

http://www.nateslightironhobbies.com/…/east-brod-top-machin…

--
Nathan Kline
www.broadtopmountainmodels.com
www.nateslightironhobbies.com

Re: Ad: NEW HO/HOn3 Broad Top Mountain Models East Broad Top RR Machine Shop Kits arrived!

Ric Case
 

Phil did you receive your model of the engine repair shop?

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Mar 29, 2020, at 6:50 PM, rckwallaby <pmo77304@...> wrote:

Cool. 

Look forward you that. 

Not sure what/if I’ll do with the Broad Top Mountain Models Machine Shop kits. I have this design / half build of an engine shed / machine shop / car shop that morphs an FSM engine shed with the EBT style and characteristics of their engine facilities complex. 
Sounds terrible in words but I’m pretty happy with the design. Just very slow on the build. Thought getting one of these kits might help motivate me to complete mine. 

Cheers
Phil


On 30 Mar 2020, at 1:36 am, Ric Case <ebtmodeler@...> wrote:

Phil have added to and upgraded a lot of the scenery! I need to do another video as a good bit has been added 

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Mar 29, 2020, at 9:53 AM, rckwallaby <pmo77304@...> wrote:



Hi Ric.

 

I’m an HOn3 Freelance Modeller who’s a fan of the EBT and has a lot of HOn3 EBT stuff.

I have most of the Hallmark EBT locos, a couple of the Hallmark Coal Hoppers and about 50 of the Blackstone EBT Hoppers.

I visited Orbsonia/Rockhill and Mt Union in 2005.

Been fascinated with the EBT facilities there. A print of Ted Rose’s ‘Mount Union Train’ hangs in my study.

Not currently active with HOn3 modelling, got distracted by HO brass and Sn3 logging.

 

I’ve watched the video of your layout several times. Pretty impressive.

Good work there.

 

Regards

Phil Morrow

Sunshine Coast

Australia

 

From: HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ric Case
Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2020 9:54 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Ad: NEW HO/HOn3 Broad Top Mountain Models East Broad Top RR Machine Shop Kits arrived!

 

Phil are you an EBT modeler? 

Ric Case 

EBT Modeler 

Hamilton Ohio 

1-513-375-7694



On Mar 29, 2020, at 1:07 AM, rckwallaby <pmo77304@...> wrote:



That’s a pretty humungous box.

Wonder what that will look like once it’s flown half way round the world?

About to find out I am.

 

Phil

 

From: HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io> On Behalf Of NarrowMinded1
Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2020 9:33 AM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Ad: NEW HO/HOn3 Broad Top Mountain Models East Broad Top RR Machine Shop Kits arrived!

 

They've arrived, they've arrived!

The HO/HOn3 EBT Machine Shop kits have arrived! If you haven't ordered yours yet click on the link below to place your order!

http://www.nateslightironhobbies.com/…/east-brod-top-machin…

--
Nathan Kline
www.broadtopmountainmodels.com
www.nateslightironhobbies.com