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Re: T-12 Frame-Bearing-Driver Fit Check

Mike Conder
 

Very cool.  Where are you getting the side rods?

Mike Conder


T-12 Frame-Bearing-Driver Fit Check

Glenn Butcher
 

I finally got around to reaming the Scalelink hornblocks to 1/8", they were labeled to fit 1/8", but measured out to 3mm.  With that, I was able to assemble the laser-cut frame sides, hornblocks, and drivers:



Surprise, the frame slots all line up and it rolls quite nicely!  My laser-cut siderods, however, don't fit, my fault, I measured the middle bearing incorrectly.  These are the 13mm drivers, which are oversized based on what I can determine from the drawings I have.  I worried that I had to offset the middle driver too far back to keep the distinctive main-rear driver spacing, but that doesn't appear have affected it.  There's about .5mm distance between the flanges of the front and main drivers.

Next steps will be to order correct siderods and install frame spacers.  I'll also install the front and rear bolsters, the frame sides have an extra 0.05" on each end to be bent into tabs to which the bolsters will be soldered.  I'm going to spring the drivers with cantilever springs, per http://www.clag.org.uk/41-0rev.html#section8.5.  In the same lasercut order I also got my boiler courses, so I'm going to figure out how to roll and solder them.  That'll be the acid test of the conelayout-defined tapered course.

Messing with the hornblocks, got to wondering: What would be the downside to simply cutting the frame slot a smidge wider than the axle and with a rounded top, and just sliding the axle into that?  I have a second set of drivers and axles for a "lessons learned" second build, and that sort of design would eliminate a whole bunch of hornblock hassles...


Re: GUM Uncouplers

Mike Conder
 

Thanks Bill … I’ll try it on my resin printer. 

Mike Conder

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 9:20 PM Bill Lugg via groups.io <luggw1=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Mike,
I've added the files in the Files section at
https://groups.io/g/HOn3/files/Uncoupler%20Hanger.  I printed them on my
Prusa MK3S+ with a 0.40 mm nozzle and a layer height of 0.20 mm (Quality
setting) and no supports.  I was a little surprised the hook on the
hanger came out as well as it did unsupported.

Enjoy...
Bill Lugg


On 12/3/21 5:35 PM, Mike Conder wrote:
> Looks handy, I’d love the STL please.
>
> Mike Conder
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:00 PM Bill Lugg via groups.io
> <http://groups.io> <luggw1=protonmail.com@groups.io
> <mailto:protonmail.com@groups.io>> wrote:
>
>     I finally tried out these dental tools for uncoupling cars and was
>     quite
>     impressed with how well they work.  However, I was thinking they'd
>     never
>     be where I'd need them, so I printed up the attached little hanger and
>     cap so I could hang several around the layout - along the yard, by
>     sidings, etc. so they'll be handy when I need them.
>
>     If others would like to use them, I can make the STL files available.
>     Bill Lugg
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Conder
>







--
Mike Conder


Re: GUM Uncouplers

Bill Lugg
 

Mike,
I've added the files in the Files section at
https://groups.io/g/HOn3/files/Uncoupler%20Hanger.  I printed them on my
Prusa MK3S+ with a 0.40 mm nozzle and a layer height of 0.20 mm (Quality
setting) and no supports.  I was a little surprised the hook on the
hanger came out as well as it did unsupported.

Enjoy...
Bill Lugg

On 12/3/21 5:35 PM, Mike Conder wrote:
Looks handy, I’d love the STL please.

Mike Conder

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:00 PM Bill Lugg via groups.io
<http://groups.io> <luggw1=protonmail.com@groups.io
<mailto:protonmail.com@groups.io>> wrote:

I finally tried out these dental tools for uncoupling cars and was
quite
impressed with how well they work.  However, I was thinking they'd
never
be where I'd need them, so I printed up the attached little hanger and
cap so I could hang several around the layout - along the yard, by
sidings, etc. so they'll be handy when I need them.

If others would like to use them, I can make the STL files available.
Bill Lugg





--
Mike Conder


Re: GUM Uncouplers

Mike Conder
 

Looks handy, I’d love the STL please. 

Mike Conder

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:00 PM Bill Lugg via groups.io <luggw1=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I finally tried out these dental tools for uncoupling cars and was quite
impressed with how well they work.  However, I was thinking they'd never
be where I'd need them, so I printed up the attached little hanger and
cap so I could hang several around the layout - along the yard, by
sidings, etc. so they'll be handy when I need them.

If others would like to use them, I can make the STL files available.
Bill Lugg





--
Mike Conder


GUM Uncouplers

Bill Lugg
 

I finally tried out these dental tools for uncoupling cars and was quite
impressed with how well they work.  However, I was thinking they'd never
be where I'd need them, so I printed up the attached little hanger and
cap so I could hang several around the layout - along the yard, by
sidings, etc. so they'll be handy when I need them.

If others would like to use them, I can make the STL files available.
Bill Lugg


GUM Uncouplers

Bill Lugg
 

I finally tried out these dental tools for uncoupling cars and was quite
impressed with how well they work.  However, I was thinking they'd never
be where I'd need them, so I printed up the attached little hanger and
cap so I could hang several around the layout - along the yard, by
sidings, etc. so they'll be handy when I need them.

If others would like to use them, I can make the STL files available.
Bill Lugg


Re: HO locomotive detail parts

Dale Buxton <dbtuathaddana@...>
 

Thanks John,
I never noticed that smoke box before. Cal-Scale also makes a nice working bell with antl-rotation bar.

Dale Buxton 

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 11:08 John Stutz <john.stutz@...> wrote:
Recent discussion of sources for locomotive modification and scratch-building parts focused on Precision Scale Models  and Keith Wiseman's stock of old PIA and Backshop parts.  I will add that Bowser, https://www.bowser-trains.com/index.html, still offers most of the old Cal-Scale and Cary lines.  While these were mostly for the large late steam prototypes of Bowser and Cary, there is much of use to us.  In particular, the Cary line includes a 49" smokebox front that is a good match for narrow gauge inside frame 2-8-0s.

John Stutz


HO locomotive detail parts

John Stutz
 

Recent discussion of sources for locomotive modification and scratch-building parts focused on Precision Scale Models  and Keith Wiseman's stock of old PIA and Backshop parts.  I will add that Bowser, https://www.bowser-trains.com/index.html, still offers most of the old Cal-Scale and Cary lines.  While these were mostly for the large late steam prototypes of Bowser and Cary, there is much of use to us.  In particular, the Cary line includes a 49" smokebox front that is a good match for narrow gauge inside frame 2-8-0s.

John Stutz


Re: Servo v. Tortoises

Alan
 

For those interested in servo operation for turnouts and other things take a look at the EZYBUS from MERG. I have been using it now for about a year and I really like it. PCB boards are small in size and easy to solder. The little stand alone system is easy to setup and it allows you to make adjustments to each servo. NO DCC required either.  Not expensive either!   Go to the MERG.uk site and read up on it. Decide for yourself!

Happy Holidays

Regards - Alan ( CVP PRODUCTS retired! )

 


Re: D&RGW Coal Tower

Nigel Phillips
 

Sorry, you're on the other side of the pond? I gave up on UK eBay stuff for the exactly the same reason. Try Gaugemaster, they carry a fair amount of US sourced material.

Nigel

Nigel


On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 2:42 AM Mark Kasprowicz <mark@...> wrote:
I cannot see the internal US postal rates only the cost to send items to the UK and in some cases the post is $65.00!!!!!

For a $15 item? 'Interesting but stupid' Rowan and Martin

Mark K


Re: Servo v. Tortoises

Mark Kasprowicz
 

I am relieved that I am not the only one finding much of it over my head! But some of the projects and of course their kits are well worth the membership and there's always the hope that a blinding light of understanding will one day home in on me - but I'm not holding my breath!

Mark K


Re: D&RGW Coal Tower

Mark Kasprowicz
 

I cannot see the internal US postal rates only the cost to send items to the UK and in some cases the post is $65.00!!!!!

For a $15 item? 'Interesting but stupid' Rowan and Martin

Mark K


Re: Black Canyon, following section

Mike Smith
 

Very nice, Paul.

Mike 

On Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 08:55:19 AM MST, Paul Buhrke <risrwy@...> wrote:


[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Oh sure, backwards loading the pictures.🥴]

If these came out; the Fishing Camp at Curecanti, the Section House at MP323, Crystal Creek topside.


--
Paul Buhrke
D&RGW Salida Division
Lost in the Black Canyon in 1929


Re: SJM Co CONOCO Tank Car coupler conversion.

Dusty
 

When I realized that the 705s weren't going to be a drop in I experimented with the 714 centering device. Like would the 714 box center with a solid coupler rather than a split coupler. I welded a 714 into a solid, one piece coupler. Surprise, surprise it still centers. So the 705 could have been more friendly.

I felt the 705s were more challenging to 'pick' than the 714s but obviously the 705s look better and offer less slack.

If my mission were creating images for big time publication I would probably make great efforts to either hide the 714s or build a couple of 'Foreground' prop cars with Sergent couplers and perhaps narrow tread wheels.

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707


Re: Servo v. Tortoises

Bill Lugg
 

I, too, am a member of MERG (https://www.merg.org.uk/merg_kitlocker/)
and yes, I believe you do have to be a member to order.  I've been
thoroughly satisfied with everything I've ordered from them.  I run MERG
boosters off my NCE DCC system and MERG DCOs (electronic circuit
breakers).  I'm currently assembling a command station (CANCAB) and the
other parts necessary to put together a DCC test track I can can
interface JMRI to for loco speed matching off the layout.

Their forum is extremely helpful - it's like an Open Source community
for model railroad electronics.  To be honest, most of it is way over my
head, but I still reading through the quarterly journals and benefiting
from the Tech Bulletins and other resources they offer.

Bill Lugg

On 12/1/21 11:07 AM, Mike Conder wrote:
Very interesting, do you have to be a member to get the controller
kits?  Would love to learn more about them.

And love your new railroad name ... 😁😁

Mike Conder

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 10:58 AM Mark Kasprowicz <mark@kaspro.net
<mailto:mark@kaspro.net>> wrote:

Like many I installed Tortoise turnout motors from the first time
I saw them in operations - mmmmdiddly years ago. Recently I wanted
to change the track layout at the back of my RR and didn't fancy
crawling around trying to get the things installed underneath. So
I decided to try surface mounted 9g servos using tube and wire
control. I joined a UK organisation MERG which specialises in
model RR electronics and bought kits for servo controllers each
powering four plus the servo setting controller. You have to build
these youself BTW, involves soldering. Installed, aka glued in
place, I can adjust the throw and the speed, something you cannot
do with a Tortoise. and they are cheap. So my upcoming East German
NG layout centred aound a sausage making town in Saxony - 'The
Wurst Railway' - will have turnouts and signals powered with servos.

Mark K


Re: Servo v. Tortoises

Mike Conder
 

Very interesting, do you have to be a member to get the controller kits?  Would love to learn more about them.

And love your new railroad name ... 😁😁

Mike Conder

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 10:58 AM Mark Kasprowicz <mark@...> wrote:
Like many I installed Tortoise turnout motors from the first time I saw them in operations - mmmmdiddly years ago. Recently I wanted to change the track layout at the back of my RR and didn't fancy crawling around trying to get the things installed underneath. So I decided to try surface mounted 9g servos using tube and wire control. I joined a UK organisation MERG which specialises in model RR electronics and bought kits for servo controllers each powering four plus the servo setting controller. You have to build these youself BTW, involves soldering. Installed, aka glued in place, I can adjust the throw and the speed, something you cannot do with a Tortoise. and they are cheap. So my upcoming East German NG layout centred aound a sausage making town in Saxony - 'The Wurst Railway' - will have turnouts and signals powered with servos.

Mark K


Servo v. Tortoises

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Like many I installed Tortoise turnout motors from the first time I saw them in operations - mmmmdiddly years ago. Recently I wanted to change the track layout at the back of my RR and didn't fancy crawling around trying to get the things installed underneath. So I decided to try surface mounted 9g servos using tube and wire control. I joined a UK organisation MERG which specialises in model RR electronics and bought kits for servo controllers each powering four plus the servo setting controller. You have to build these youself BTW, involves soldering. Installed, aka glued in place, I can adjust the throw and the speed, something you cannot do with a Tortoise. and they are cheap. So my upcoming East German NG layout centred aound a sausage making town in Saxony - 'The Wurst Railway' - will have turnouts and signals powered with servos.

Mark K


Re: SJM Co CONOCO Tank Car coupler conversion.

p. f. hollingsworth
 

Mark Lewis, I thank you for your answer. It's a hopeful thing, then, to begin a slow conversion. Someday.
I agree with the pair (Marlett and Kasprowicz) about how strange the notion is that it couldn't be made to fit in an existing box. Buxton's notion that a 'hurry up' job is a good and worthy thing mystifies me. Maybe in a real time crisis, but not here. It's a hobby not a war or disaster- we had already waited decades, why not another season or so to find a new die making guy?


Re: D&RGW Coal Tower

Nigel Phillips
 

Go to eBay, search Model Power 410. There are 100+ at around $25-$27 including postage. The $14 one is the cheaper EST but with high postage.

Nigel


On Wednesday, December 1, 2021, threefootmodels via groups.io <threefootmodels=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Can you provide a link for the $15 eBay special? I can’t find it. 

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