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Re: Tie spacing

Nigel Phillips
 

In the Denver Public Library digital collection there are photographs of RGS trains going over trestles. If you know the wheel diameters you can guesstimate the tie spacing as several are nearly face on.The photo of a trestle at Rico shows very small spacing with a fair amount of variation. If you know the tie width, it's possible to calculate the tie spacing from the trestle photographs, as the track gauge is known. There is a bit of parralax adjustment which can be ignored Over 3 feet given the variation in spacing. I would say around 6" using the Mk.1 eyeball. 

Nigel


On Thursday, September 9, 2021, Dave Trimble <dtrimble@...> wrote:


On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 4:49 PM Dale Buxton <dbtuathaddana@...> wrote:
Like everything else on the RGS this was not a uniform dimension. In the RGS Story Vol. IV on the last front end leaf page it has a drawing by Jim Key showing a list of the general RGS timber dimensions. It does not give the tie spacing but it ran from half of the bridge ties width to their full width (8"). But it usually fell somewhere between these two dimensions. Someone out there (can't remember who) came up with an easy way to figure out the outside of a curve tie spread for the curved trestles.

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 4:00 PM Dave Trimble <dtrimble@...> wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the tie spacing on the ties used on the 46-series of bridges between Ophir and Rico?

Thanks,
Dave


Re: Tie spacing

Dave Trimble
 



On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 4:49 PM Dale Buxton <dbtuathaddana@...> wrote:
Like everything else on the RGS this was not a uniform dimension. In the RGS Story Vol. IV on the last front end leaf page it has a drawing by Jim Key showing a list of the general RGS timber dimensions. It does not give the tie spacing but it ran from half of the bridge ties width to their full width (8"). But it usually fell somewhere between these two dimensions. Someone out there (can't remember who) came up with an easy way to figure out the outside of a curve tie spread for the curved trestles.

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 4:00 PM Dave Trimble <dtrimble@...> wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the tie spacing on the ties used on the 46-series of bridges between Ophir and Rico?

Thanks,
Dave


Re: Tie spacing

Dale Buxton
 

Like everything else on the RGS this was not a uniform dimension. In the RGS Story Vol. IV on the last front end leaf page it has a drawing by Jim Key showing a list of the general RGS timber dimensions. It does not give the tie spacing but it ran from half of the bridge ties width to their full width (8"). But it usually fell somewhere between these two dimensions. Someone out there (can't remember who) came up with an easy way to figure out the outside of a curve tie spread for the curved trestles.


On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 4:00 PM Dave Trimble <dtrimble@...> wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the tie spacing on the ties used on the 46-series of bridges between Ophir and Rico?

Thanks,
Dave


Tie spacing

Dave Trimble
 

Does anyone know where I can find the tie spacing on the ties used on the 46-series of bridges between Ophir and Rico?

Thanks,
Dave


Re: Leadville Designs AC&F 30' RGS/C&S/F&CC/NCNG Boxcar kit available for pre-order

Mike Conder
 

Thanks Bill!  I’ll look there for both!

Mike Conder 

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 2:02 PM Bill M via groups.io <bogie286=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks Mike!

The kits do not come with trucks or couplers, but I do produce them and they are available here:




If you go to the HOn3 Collection page, you will see the new kits listed near the bottom for pre-order. Just click on the kit and add to cart!


Thanks again everyone!

Bill


On Wednesday, September 8, 2021, 03:57:32 PM EDT, Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:


Very cool Bill!

Two questions:

- do these come with trucks and/or couplers?   If no trucks, do you offer them too?

- how do we pre-order them?  Didn’t see a link on their descriptions?

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 1:28 PM Bill M via groups.io <bogie286=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Available now for pre-order for delivery early October, the classic 3' gauge Type 1 boxcar as seen on the RGS, C&S, F&CC, and NCNG. While similar, the RGS/C&S version is not the same as the F&CC/NCNG version. Each kit for either style includes lettering specific to RGS & C&S -or- F&CC & NCNG. Of course these kits are available in HO, S, and O. Kits comprise the finest laser cut woods, injected and printed details, exclusive etched brass hardware, wire lettering etc. resplendent with full interior detail. Truly a classic car!

Leadville Designs



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Mike Conder

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Mike Conder


Re: BBQ Find for corrugated iron

Mike Conder
 

I’ve fiddled with this, a little thin still for some iron sheathing (non-corrugated) that I was nursing but may be just right to use with those corrugated presses. 

Now I need a corrugated press!

Mike Conder

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 2:09 PM p. f. hollingsworth <2fisherman@...> wrote:
nice tip. never saw it before.

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Mike Conder


Re: BBQ Find for corrugated iron

p. f. hollingsworth
 

nice tip. never saw it before.


Re: Leadville Designs AC&F 30' RGS/C&S/F&CC/NCNG Boxcar kit available for pre-order

Bill M
 

Thanks Mike!

The kits do not come with trucks or couplers, but I do produce them and they are available here:




If you go to the HOn3 Collection page, you will see the new kits listed near the bottom for pre-order. Just click on the kit and add to cart!


Thanks again everyone!

Bill


On Wednesday, September 8, 2021, 03:57:32 PM EDT, Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:


Very cool Bill!

Two questions:

- do these come with trucks and/or couplers?   If no trucks, do you offer them too?

- how do we pre-order them?  Didn’t see a link on their descriptions?

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 1:28 PM Bill M via groups.io <bogie286=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Available now for pre-order for delivery early October, the classic 3' gauge Type 1 boxcar as seen on the RGS, C&S, F&CC, and NCNG. While similar, the RGS/C&S version is not the same as the F&CC/NCNG version. Each kit for either style includes lettering specific to RGS & C&S -or- F&CC & NCNG. Of course these kits are available in HO, S, and O. Kits comprise the finest laser cut woods, injected and printed details, exclusive etched brass hardware, wire lettering etc. resplendent with full interior detail. Truly a classic car!

Leadville Designs



--
Mike Conder


Re: Leadville Designs AC&F 30' RGS/C&S/F&CC/NCNG Boxcar kit available for pre-order

Mike Conder
 

Very cool Bill!

Two questions:

- do these come with trucks and/or couplers?   If no trucks, do you offer them too?

- how do we pre-order them?  Didn’t see a link on their descriptions?

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 1:28 PM Bill M via groups.io <bogie286=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Available now for pre-order for delivery early October, the classic 3' gauge Type 1 boxcar as seen on the RGS, C&S, F&CC, and NCNG. While similar, the RGS/C&S version is not the same as the F&CC/NCNG version. Each kit for either style includes lettering specific to RGS & C&S -or- F&CC & NCNG. Of course these kits are available in HO, S, and O. Kits comprise the finest laser cut woods, injected and printed details, exclusive etched brass hardware, wire lettering etc. resplendent with full interior detail. Truly a classic car!

https://leadvilledesigns.com/

--
Mike Conder


Leadville Designs AC&F 30' RGS/C&S/F&CC/NCNG Boxcar kit available for pre-order

Bill M
 

Available now for pre-order for delivery early October, the classic 3' gauge Type 1 boxcar as seen on the RGS, C&S, F&CC, and NCNG. While similar, the RGS/C&S version is not the same as the F&CC/NCNG version. Each kit for either style includes lettering specific to RGS & C&S -or- F&CC & NCNG. Of course these kits are available in HO, S, and O. Kits comprise the finest laser cut woods, injected and printed details, exclusive etched brass hardware, wire lettering etc. resplendent with full interior detail. Truly a classic car!

https://leadvilledesigns.com/


C&S DECALS

Andrew Keplinger
 

I have the following LaBelle Decals for sale
Asking 15.00 includes shipping. 
Contact me akep1963@... 


BBQ Find for corrugated iron

Art D3
 

I was christening the new smoker this past weekend and I asked my wife to pick up some heavy duty aluminum foil. She came home with what is for me a new product, Reynolds Pitmaster's Choice aluminum foil. It handled and felt thicker than the regular Heavy Duty stuff! I put the calipers on it and it looks to be 0.001". It should make very durable sheet iron when burnished on one of the jigs. You might want to try some out.


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Art Dutra
Meriden, CT


Re: MRGS # 62

Mark Kasprowicz
 

what about????


Re: MRGS # 62

Robert Veefkind
 

you're right--the BS is 8 foot wide-- My eyes must be failing--along with my memory


Re: MRGS # 62

Mark Kasprowicz
 
Edited

Bob, depending on where you measure them, all the cars are more or less the same width. At the widest point, that is to say the roof overhang, the side to side is around 8'5" give or take an inch. That results in an 'over-the-sills' measurement of eight feet. Specifically on 62 which is featured in these plans, that measurement is exactly that. This is from the Coronado plans drawn by Al Kamm. So not quite sure what is going on with BS because Jeff Johnson was very careful to get the numbers right and it was he or rather his assistant, Julia, who discovered that the RailLine boxcar grabs were three inches too narrow.
Oh how i wish those two were still working there. What was BS's 'get up and go' has 'got up and gone'. Harper poached him for the D&S, did the same with Jarrette Ireland too the bastard.

Mark K


Re: Montrose

ftgcss
 

Very impressive Paul.

Scott


3D Printed Cars at the NNG

Nigel Phillips
 

Hi Mark,

Just search  gov.uk 

My take is that you should not have to pay excise tax and customs duty on goods worth less than £135 including postage and insurance unless gifts over £35, and VAT on goods worth less than £35 including postage and insurance.

The problems start when a shipper gets in the way. For a standard charge they handle all of this. And yes, US shippers need to be registered for VAT or use a service that handles it all. And that's when it gets expensive. They can put on the invoice "reverse charges to customer", but many companies can't be bothered.

The system works fine for large purchases such as a $500 locomotive, when it comes to a $30 freight or passenger car it gets problematic for the buyer. Look on the bright side, a return airfare will be around $600. And you still might get hit with duty and taxes when you get back.

It's cheaper for the UK government to get customs and VAT collected here than police all the mail to see whether taxes are due.

Works both ways. Lots of model shops in the UK will not ship to the US or if they do are not registered for zero VAT on exports , or use an expensive shipping service. That way we get dinged both ways. Even more so when the supplier is zero rated for VAT and then uses a service that automatically charges VAT. Try getting that back!

Nigel

On Sunday, September 5, 2021, Mark Kasprowicz <mark@...> wrote:
Where? I've got something coming in from the US via post on which VAT was charged. It will be interesting to see how that is handled at this end because normally Royal Mail send a card to the recipient asking for the duty and VAT to be paid before they will deliver the item. FEDEX bills you after delivery.

Mark


Re: 3D Printed Cars at the NNG

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Where? I've got something coming in from the US via post on which VAT was charged. It will be interesting to see how that is handled at this end because normally Royal Mail send a card to the recipient asking for the duty and VAT to be paid before they will deliver the item. FEDEX bills you after delivery.

Mark


Re: 3D Printed Cars at the NNG

Nigel Phillips
 

Look up VAT imports UK. 

Nigel


On Sunday, September 5, 2021, Mark Kasprowicz <mark@...> wrote:
I have never understood how a US company can charge UK VAT, surely that is for the UK authorities to charge on arrival here. Any UK company registered for VAT should not charge for exports to the US. It's different for stuff going to the EU (and a total mess as well)

I have offers off list to do that and also my son is in Seattle to whom i have sent parcels of Games Workshop stuff so the way I look at it is that 'he owes'. Worst case I hope to return to the US in February so I collect anything then.

But to address the postage cost issue it seems that unless you're mailing from China, thencosts have escaled and been blamed on Covid. We bought a little book costing £5 for our grandson - it cost £22 to send to Seattle.

Mark


Re: 3D Printed Cars at the NNG

Mark Kasprowicz
 

I have never understood how a US company can charge UK VAT, surely that is for the UK authorities to charge on arrival here. Any UK company registered for VAT should not charge for exports to the US. It's different for stuff going to the EU (and a total mess as well)

I have offers off list to do that and also my son is in Seattle to whom i have sent parcels of Games Workshop stuff so the way I look at it is that 'he owes'. Worst case I hope to return to the US in February so I collect anything then.

But to address the postage cost issue it seems that unless you're mailing from China, thencosts have escaled and been blamed on Covid. We bought a little book costing £5 for our grandson - it cost £22 to send to Seattle.

Mark

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