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Blackstone HOn3 Trucks

Bodo Rasler
 

Hi,
has anyone some Blackstone HOn3 trucks for sale?
- 3' 7" Arch Bar Trucks - B370103 - 104 - 105
- 3' 7" Arch Bar Caboose Trucks - B370106

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany
Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

John Stutz
 

Jim

You might try a repair in place.  Clean only the outer surface of the socket to get the oil off.  Get your reinforcing sleeve and paper in place, and a little bit clear of any adjacent bearing.  Then apply ACC at the opposite end only. 

This relies on clearance, oil retained in the bearing, and minute applications of ACC, to prevent gluing the socket to the bearing.  I have a small ACC holder, a scrap block of brass, where I place a drop of ACC and then transfer tiny amounts via the flattened end of a crochet hook.  But that is only for the handle and any flattened piece of wire will do in a pinch.  Use multiple minute applications, allowing each to set before the next goes on.  Apply only at the end further from the bearing, until the paper at that end is saturated with ACC.

I do not see a way to get the socket off of its shaft without putting pressure on the bearings, which I would not want to try.  If the socket splits and comes loose, you can reinforce it, but you need to press against the opposite end of the shaft, or something well fixed on the shaft, and avoid pressure on the bearings.

John

On July 16, 2021 11:48 AM Jim Rohman <rohman@...> wrote:


Hi John

Thanks. I’ve got 3 cups sleeved and shimmed with paper and used thin ACC as you suggested. I haven’t reinstalled on shafts yet to test but I think they are going to hold just from what pressure I could apply to them manually.  Keep the fingers crossed.  I still have 1 possibly 2 more to do. The one I’m not sure about doing looks to have a small crack in it but it’s the cup in front of the piston rods and I’m not sure how to get it off and I think I could mess things up pretty bad if I take it off wrong. I’ve got all the trucks and the gear box off since this picture was taken. Any ideas?

Going slow at it.

Thanks again, Jim




Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

Jim Rohman
 

Hi John

Thanks. I’ve got 3 cups sleeved and shimmed with paper and used thin ACC as you suggested. I haven’t reinstalled on shafts yet to test but I think they are going to hold just from what pressure I could apply to them manually.  Keep the fingers crossed.  I still have 1 possibly 2 more to do. The one I’m not sure about doing looks to have a small crack in it but it’s the cup in front of the piston rods and I’m not sure how to get it off and I think I could mess things up pretty bad if I take it off wrong. I’ve got all the trucks and the gear box off since this picture was taken. Any ideas?

Going slow at it.

Thanks again, Jim




On Jul 16, 2021, at 2:05 PM, John Stutz <john.stutz@...> wrote:

Jim

ACC is sold in several viscosities, from very low (water weight) to gel versions.   ACC solidification is catalyzed by trace amounts of water.  Your own breadth is enough to speed the process, but you do not want visible amounts of water involved.

John
On July 15, 2021 2:26 PM Jim Rohman <rohman@...> wrote:


Thanks John. I'll give it a try. Not sure what water weight Means for acc. Is it acc activated by water?

Thanks again, Jim

Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

Climax@...
 

John

Any moisture will cause ACC to solidify.  that is why it almost instantly glues your fingers to anything as you have moisture in your hands.  Best way to handle this ACC is with rubber gloves on.  Put a smiggin in place and let it wick around where you want it.  Once its all in place just use your breath on the applied area, no spit, and there is enough moisture in it to activate the ACC and make it solidify.  DO NOT use a spray or splash water on it.  The reaction will be too abrupt and may cause deformation of the wheel/tire.  You can even apply the ACC and let it just sit on a shelf for 24 hours and it will solidify with no visible foam or glue yourself to it.

I use ACC to glue Campbell's Weston Birds to wires and I have to be very careful.  I put a tiny bit on the wire an hold the bird with a self closing tweezers, sit it in place on the wire and let it sit for an hour.  It works.  My power lines are actually .003 copper wire commonly referred to as Magnet Wire.  Works great. My reason for putting the bird there was to stop me from snagging the almost invisible wires with tools and my hands.

Dave

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Sent: Jul 16, 2021 2:05 PM
To: <HOn3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Precision Scale WSLC Heisler


Jim
 
ACC is sold in several viscosities, from very low (water weight) to gel versions.   ACC solidification is catalyzed by trace amounts of water.  Your own breadth is enough to speed the process, but you do not want visible amounts of water involved.
 
John
On July 15, 2021 2:26 PM Jim Rohman <rohman@...> wrote:
 
 
Thanks John. I'll give it a try. Not sure what water weight Means for acc. Is it acc activated by water?

Thanks again, Jim

 
Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

John Stutz
 

Jim

ACC is sold in several viscosities, from very low (water weight) to gel versions.   ACC solidification is catalyzed by trace amounts of water.  Your own breadth is enough to speed the process, but you do not want visible amounts of water involved.

John

On July 15, 2021 2:26 PM Jim Rohman <rohman@...> wrote:


Thanks John. I'll give it a try. Not sure what water weight Means for acc. Is it acc activated by water?

Thanks again, Jim

Re: Best Decoder/Sound System for a Balboa C-21

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Soundtraxx TSU-1100 Steam 2. 884006. Huge choice of sounds. Hard wire it - plugs are only of use when factory fitted in RTR locos.

Mark
Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

Climax@...
 

ACC does react with water.  It hardens almost instantly and fizzes as well as heats up.  Let it just sit and harden over time.  On other words DO NOT use a mister or anything to hurry the setting.  Be patient.

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Sent: Jul 15, 2021 5:53 PM
To: <HOn3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Precision Scale WSLC Heisler


Means very thin ACC.  Probably the regular stuff.....not jell

-----Original Message-----
From: <HOn3@groups.io>
Sent: Jul 15, 2021 5:26 PM
To: <HOn3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Precision Scale WSLC Heisler


Thanks John. I'll give it a try. Not sure what water weight Means for acc. Is it acc activated by water?

Thanks again, Jim

 

 
Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

Jim Rohman
 

Gotcha Thanks

On Jul 15, 2021, at 5:53 PM, Climax@... <Climax@...> wrote:

Means very thin ACC.  Probably the regular stuff.....not jell

-----Original Message-----
From: <HOn3@groups.io>
Sent: Jul 15, 2021 5:26 PM
To: <HOn3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Precision Scale WSLC Heisler


Thanks John. I'll give it a try. Not sure what water weight Means for acc. Is it acc activated by water?

Thanks again, Jim

 
Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

Climax@...
 

Means very thin ACC.  Probably the regular stuff.....not jell

-----Original Message-----
From: <HOn3@groups.io>
Sent: Jul 15, 2021 5:26 PM
To: <HOn3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Precision Scale WSLC Heisler


Thanks John. I'll give it a try. Not sure what water weight Means for acc. Is it acc activated by water?

Thanks again, Jim

 
Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

Jim Rohman
 

My Heisler didn't have the original box. It has a name plate on the frame saying Made in Japan. I'm guessing it's the early model.
Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

Jim Rohman
 

Thanks Climax  That does sound easy.

Jim
Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

Jim Rohman
 

Thanks John. I'll give it a try. Not sure what water weight Means for acc. Is it acc activated by water?

Thanks again, Jim
Re: Best Decoder/Sound System for a Balboa C-21

Nigel Phillips
 

S0586 sound file from a narrow gauge K27 2-8-2. ESU decoders come blank, you will need a supplier with the ability to burn the decoder. The decoder is a V5, a micro version is the smallest. ESU now use PLEX interfaces on standard size decoders (16 pin). if you are new to installing decoders get somebody like Tony's Trains to burn and install. Or practice on a cheap engine and decoder first. The micro versions come with a 6-pin interface, usually enough for a steam locomotive. ESU should have an 8-socket to PLEX interface card. I think you can special order an 8-pin interface decoder directly from ESU.

I use Soundtraxx and ESU decoders, ESU are IMHO better. Soundtraxx come with the 8-pin interface and a stay alive capacitor. Bachmann sound decoders in HO are usually from Soundtraxx, not so expensive, and they have a generic 2-6-2.

Nigel

On Thursday, July 15, 2021, AdamKP <penncentral13@...> wrote:
I should probably also add that I’m looking for a specific mode number or name. Thanks for the advice so far.

Re: Best Decoder/Sound System for a Balboa C-21

AdamKP
 

I should probably also add that I’m looking for a specific mode number or name. Thanks for the advice so far.
Re: Best Decoder/Sound System for a Balboa C-21

Mike Chamberlain
 

I use Soundtraxx in all of my locos . Mike


On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 2:03 PM Nigel Phillips <nigelp18000@...> wrote:
ESU Loksound micro is an alternative. The decoder size is usually not an issue, it's the speaker. Try "sugar cube" speakers. If you can get a speaker in the boiler all the better.

Nigel

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 1:41 PM AdamKP <penncentral13@...> wrote:
So I just purchased a brass Balboa C-21 and I'm wondering what kind of decoder/speaker I should get for it. I'm thinking Soundtraxx as I think that might be the only brand to fit. I would appreciate any suggestions since I am not well versed in the electronic side of model railroading. Thank you. 

Re: HO D&RG Refrigerator White Decal

Richard Brennan
 

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Re: Best Decoder/Sound System for a Balboa C-21

Nigel Phillips
 

ESU Loksound micro is an alternative. The decoder size is usually not an issue, it's the speaker. Try "sugar cube" speakers. If you can get a speaker in the boiler all the better.

Nigel


On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 1:41 PM AdamKP <penncentral13@...> wrote:
So I just purchased a brass Balboa C-21 and I'm wondering what kind of decoder/speaker I should get for it. I'm thinking Soundtraxx as I think that might be the only brand to fit. I would appreciate any suggestions since I am not well versed in the electronic side of model railroading. Thank you. 

Best Decoder/Sound System for a Balboa C-21

AdamKP
 

So I just purchased a brass Balboa C-21 and I'm wondering what kind of decoder/speaker I should get for it. I'm thinking Soundtraxx as I think that might be the only brand to fit. I would appreciate any suggestions since I am not well versed in the electronic side of model railroading. Thank you. 
Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

Climax@...
 

Better yet.  Just take the paper and lay it over the sleeve.  Take the cracked part and put it on top the paper and push it down into the sleeve.  The paper will give way and take the new new form between the cracked part and sleeve.  Kind of like putting an insulated tire on a wheel.

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Sent: Jul 15, 2021 1:22 PM
To: <HOn3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Precision Scale WSLC Heisler


Jim
 
On a 3 .14mm OD socket, a nominally 1/8" ID K&S brass tube will need some shimming to get a tight fit. 
 
A light hard paper should suffice.  Cut the paper just long enough to go once, or as many times as needed, around the socket.  Cut the width equal to sleeve plus socket lengths. Cut a small taper inside the sleeve's leading edge and outside the socket's leading edge.  Clean socket and sleeve with alcohol to remove any oil.  Roll the paper so it fits tightly into the sleeve, start the socket into the paper tube, press together, and trim off excess paper.  It may take several tries to get a fit that firmly closes the cracked socket.  When done, hit the paper edges all around with water weight ACC to fix all together. 
 
John Stutz
On July 15, 2021 9:13 AM Jim Rohman <rohman@...> wrote:
 
 

Hello again

I’m trying the sleeving. I haven’t been able to get a real tight fit with the 1/8 sleeve. Don’t know if I should add some silicone or squeeze the sleeve together a bit. I would think the Sleeve (tube) should be a tight fit. I’ve found I have 3 cracked cups in the line plus there is a special plastic cup that comes off the gear box and mates directly with a brass cup with no dog bone. This special plastic cup looks to be cracked also. I’ve got myself quite a little mess to fix.

 

NWSL recommended using their 487-6 U joint set. My shaft size is 1.45mm and their U joint kit is made for 1.5mm shafting. It might work.  I may give that a try if the sleeving fails. It won’t help with the special cup that mates with the brass cup but I’ll see what happens.

 

Thanks everyone again for following along. I’m a novice at trying something like this, another-words, I don’t know what I’m doing, but I hope to learn something and get lucky and actually fix this guy. Any ideas you may think of I’d appreciate.

Below is a picture of the special cup highlighted.

Thanks for your help, Jim


 

 
Re: Precision Scale WSLC Heisler

John Stutz
 

Jim

On a 3 .14mm OD socket, a nominally 1/8" ID K&S brass tube will need some shimming to get a tight fit. 

A light hard paper should suffice.  Cut the paper just long enough to go once, or as many times as needed, around the socket.  Cut the width equal to sleeve plus socket lengths. Cut a small taper inside the sleeve's leading edge and outside the socket's leading edge.  Clean socket and sleeve with alcohol to remove any oil.  Roll the paper so it fits tightly into the sleeve, start the socket into the paper tube, press together, and trim off excess paper.  It may take several tries to get a fit that firmly closes the cracked socket.  When done, hit the paper edges all around with water weight ACC to fix all together. 

John Stutz

On July 15, 2021 9:13 AM Jim Rohman <rohman@...> wrote:


Hello again

I’m trying the sleeving. I haven’t been able to get a real tight fit with the 1/8 sleeve. Don’t know if I should add some silicone or squeeze the sleeve together a bit. I would think the Sleeve (tube) should be a tight fit. I’ve found I have 3 cracked cups in the line plus there is a special plastic cup that comes off the gear box and mates directly with a brass cup with no dog bone. This special plastic cup looks to be cracked also. I’ve got myself quite a little mess to fix.


NWSL recommended using their 487-6 U joint set. My shaft size is 1.45mm and their U joint kit is made for 1.5mm shafting. It might work.  I may give that a try if the sleeving fails. It won’t help with the special cup that mates with the brass cup but I’ll see what happens.


Thanks everyone again for following along. I’m a novice at trying something like this, another-words, I don’t know what I’m doing, but I hope to learn something and get lucky and actually fix this guy. Any ideas you may think of I’d appreciate.

Below is a picture of the special cup highlighted.

Thanks for your help, Jim


 

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