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Re: Muddy Mudhen

Russ Norris
 

Looks realistic to me.  

Russ

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 8:56 PM Jim Schulz <jim@...> wrote:
Took my Blackstone K-27, #461 and ran it through the mud.  Too much mud?  Too little mud?  I think it needs more mud.



Cheers!

Jim Schulz


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Cape Cod, Massachusetts
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Re: Muddy Mudhen

lloyd lehrer
 

Looks like it its there.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 5:56 PM Jim Schulz <jim@...> wrote:
Took my Blackstone K-27, #461 and ran it through the mud.  Too much mud?  Too little mud?  I think it needs more mud.



Cheers!

Jim Schulz


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lloyd lehrer


Muddy Mudhen

Jim Schulz
 

Took my Blackstone K-27, #461 and ran it through the mud.  Too much mud?  Too little mud?  I think it needs more mud.



Cheers!

Jim Schulz


For sale

Andrew Keplinger
 

C&S decals 5.00 plus 4 shipping 
Trout Creek turnbuckle 10.00 plus 4 shipping 
Contact me off line akep1963@... 


Re: Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

Brian Kopp
 

Dale and everybody,
my order arrived today from PSC/TJmodelTrains/j-tprantle ebay =)
Just for the record, and maybe to inspire some folks to reach out to them, even from Europe, here is their email signature from when Joel checked with me a few minutes ago to confirm the tracking and delivery. He apologized again for the delays this spring.....



BTW, I have ordered Tichy and NOS Grandt Line from them at their great TJModelTrain prices. Just ask if they have it.....

I did also confirm the Prantle clan own all three companies, plus a fourth which I believe is a brick and mortar store: Pf&S Railway.....

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Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: RGM Stock

Brian Kopp
 

Thanks Mick.
More great inspiration....
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Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: Box Girders and 6000 Flat Car Loading

John Stutz
 

Dusty

These are typical laced channel tower posts, also once widely used as bridge truss posts.  Most of the weight is in the webs of the channels, which can vary considerably, within any one size.  Channel size is measured across the web and over the flanges.  Flange width is typically about 1/4 of the depth over flanges, and almost independent of weight.

From the 1932 Illinois Steel Shape Book, under structural channels, I find:

    15" -- 6 weights, 33.9 to 55.0 lb/foot
    12" -- 5 weights, 20.7 to 40.0   "
    10" -- 6 weights, 15.3 to 35.0   "
      9" -- 6 weights, 13.4 to 25.0   "
      8" -- 5 weights, 11.5 to 21.3   "
      7" -- 5 weights,   9.8 to 19.7   "
      6" -- 4 weights,   8.2 to 15.5   "

I expect earlier shape listings to show a larger selection of sizes, and of weights within any one size, but these will give a good start.

Bridge post lacing sizes also vary considerably, but 1/4 by 3" is about the minimum cross section, and runs 2.518 lb/foot.

The size and weight used in any one application depended on design loading, post length, joint constraints, and the current cost and availability of specific sizes.  The latter varied widely with the state of the steel market, enough occasionally to even dictate general design, so about all that can be said is that both size and weight generally increase with construction date and were driven by locomotive weights.

Let us know what you conclude.

John Stutz

On June 5, 2021 8:19 AM Dusty via groups.io <dustburm@...> wrote:


This week I was sorting thru misc parts (junk). Found some Micro Enginerring parts to build box girders. Actually Tower Struts. 28' long and 10" x 18" approximate. Any suggestions on how many on a car before the transition to splinters. One deep and 3 across???? More? Less? A guess at the weight of the girder? Probably no prototype precedent. Not so much how many can you haul but more like we need to get x number to ........

Any insights and suggestions appreciated greatly.

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707 


Re: RGM Stock

Mick Moignard
 

I made my OB with a raisable tower too.  RGM kit back in the 80s or 90s, hinged tower with the stays hinged and peggable into the tower.  Came out well, too.  

Mick

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Re: Box Girders and 6000 Flat Car Loading

Mike Conder
 

An estimate:

Modern 12" steel channel weighs about 21#/foot.  So a 28' channel is 300# or so.  The other side channel is also 300#, and the webbing is probably aot less than one channel. 

But adding those plus a little extra for the ends, call it 1,000# or 1/2 ton per column.  So maybe this is just a single car load, as 20 would make a 10 ton load?

Mike Conder



Re: Box Girders and 6000 Flat Car Loading

kevin b
 


welllll, if you wanna do a bunch of measuring and math etc,,,,,:
a 1 inch thick sheet of steel that is 36" wide and 96" long will weigh 979 pounds.
personally, i see you having just all kinds of fun calculating the weight of one of those.

i also like the idea of 1 row high and 3 wide just fine.

Kevin.


This week I was sorting thru misc parts (junk). Found some Micro Enginerring parts to build box girders. Actually Tower Struts. 28' long and 10" x 18" approximate. Any suggestions on how many on a car before the transition to splinters. One deep and 3 across???? More? Less? A guess at the weight of the girder? Probably no prototype precedent. Not so much how many can you haul but more like we need to get x number to ........

Any insights and suggestions appreciated greatly.

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707 


Box Girders and 6000 Flat Car Loading

Dusty
 

This week I was sorting thru misc parts (junk). Found some Micro Enginerring parts to build box girders. Actually Tower Struts. 28' long and 10" x 18" approximate. Any suggestions on how many on a car before the transition to splinters. One deep and 3 across???? More? Less? A guess at the weight of the girder? Probably no prototype precedent. Not so much how many can you haul but more like we need to get x number to ........

Any insights and suggestions appreciated greatly.

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707 


Re: diaphragms for coaches

Robert Furrer
 

Hi David,

I'm sorry for the late reply. I was gone a few days, and did not have time to go through all the mail before I left.

Thanks for your kind offer, but the diaphragms would look too different from what I have on the other cars. So I need something smaller and thinner, more just to mark the presence, but without being too prominent.

Best regards, 

Robert Furrer


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Robert,     I have  the parts for one Labelle  closed end vestibule coach as shown in the attached picture .  they are a folded paper and styrene 

 

If you can use let me know

 

 

David

 

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Re: RGM Stock

Brian Kopp
 

Wow that is an inspirational photo Art. And thanks for the operational position hinge idea. I will try to incorporate that feature....
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Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

Dale Buxton
 

I tried to order directly by phone back in Jan. But, because of Covid 19 lock-down there was no one but the recording to talk to me. 
I can see that has changed now. Nice! Because I need some PSC parts that they don't have in the Ebay store.

Dale Buxton

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 5:43 AM Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:
Has anybody had any luck in the past month or two ordering direct from Joel and Teresa Prantle through their tjmodeltrains yahoo email address?

Over the past month, they have not responded to my emails or voicemails looking to buy some parts.

I may have to resort to using their extensive ebay store. That is less preferred because they gave a 15% discount when you order direct via email from tjmodeltrains@....

Precisions Scale does not give a discount either when you order direct from them.

I must admit I don't understand the business arrangements here with these three vendors that I believe are all owned by the Prantle's?? But I guess I don't need to understand if I can get the parts I need. =)

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Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

Robert Bell
 

Yes, they are great!  Fast shipping, too.  I have even emailed them to change/add more to the order and they have always been fantastic!

Rob Bell
Modeling the White Pass & Yukon Route in HOn3
Waynesville, NC




On Friday, June 4, 2021, 04:29:52 PM EDT, Dusty via groups.io <dustburm@...> wrote:


My experience with tjmodeltrains via Ebay has been wonderful! I put a bunch of stuff in my cart to see the shipping. I saw the quantity shipping discount on each item but still saw like $25 shipping on $40ish worth of parts. Something like that. I called and found out that there would be a refund once I ordered. I ended up getting almost $20 back as a refund. Very generous I thought. No complaints with T and J.

Dusty Burman 


Re: Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

Dusty
 

My experience with tjmodeltrains via Ebay has been wonderful! I put a bunch of stuff in my cart to see the shipping. I saw the quantity shipping discount on each item but still saw like $25 shipping on $40ish worth of parts. Something like that. I called and found out that there would be a refund once I ordered. I ended up getting almost $20 back as a refund. Very generous I thought. No complaints with T and J.

Dusty Burman 


Re: Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

Martin Fischer
 

Martin 

when ordering a few castings from them I got a signifikant refund after they actually shipped my order to Germany. I forgot the details but remember the final costs to be reasonable. 

Regards
Martin 

Am 04.06.2021 um 17:21 schrieb martin feldwick <trackpass@...>:


I want to buy some pSC castings using ebay .about 4 to be precise.They are quoting 56 USD mail cost to UK so thats out .Maybe I will be rfunded  the combined difference .it importatnt to know the cost as  a few dollars  extra on a package  can make me pay a lot of tax and handing cost .but who knows

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:03 PM Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:
Dave,
thanks for the response. 

I am not sure if it was coincidence but I just heard from them and they completed the order.

Dave you were probably more on target than you know. Teresa apologized and said they had some employee turnover that had caused the delays. She said she hoped to avoid such tissues in the future.

I may sound like Roseanne Roseanna-Danna here from SNL but maybe this is now a case of "never mind".....


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Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

Wayne
 

RE: postage to UK.  Try placing your items in the shopping cart and then request a combined shipping total from them.  The combined total is often less than the amount to ship 1 item, at least it has been for me for USA domestic shipping.


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 9:21 AM martin feldwick <trackpass@...> wrote:
I want to buy some pSC castings using ebay .about 4 to be precise.They are quoting 56 USD mail cost to UK so thats out .Maybe I will be rfunded  the combined difference .it importatnt to know the cost as  a few dollars  extra on a package  can make me pay a lot of tax and handing cost .but who knows

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:03 PM Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:
Dave,
thanks for the response. 

I am not sure if it was coincidence but I just heard from them and they completed the order.

Dave you were probably more on target than you know. Teresa apologized and said they had some employee turnover that had caused the delays. She said she hoped to avoid such tissues in the future.

I may sound like Roseanne Roseanna-Danna here from SNL but maybe this is now a case of "never mind".....


--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL



--
Wayne Taylor


Re: Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

martin feldwick
 

I want to buy some pSC castings using ebay .about 4 to be precise.They are quoting 56 USD mail cost to UK so thats out .Maybe I will be rfunded  the combined difference .it importatnt to know the cost as  a few dollars  extra on a package  can make me pay a lot of tax and handing cost .but who knows

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:03 PM Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:
Dave,
thanks for the response. 

I am not sure if it was coincidence but I just heard from them and they completed the order.

Dave you were probably more on target than you know. Teresa apologized and said they had some employee turnover that had caused the delays. She said she hoped to avoid such tissues in the future.

I may sound like Roseanne Roseanna-Danna here from SNL but maybe this is now a case of "never mind".....


--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

Wayne
 

RE:  ...."never mind"...   On the contrary, your post was most informational.  I order frequently from them on eBay (I like to tinker with old HOn3 brass models and fix/improve them) and didn't know about the email ordering option.  They do offer honest shipping savings by combining lots of items on the same order but the individual item prices are still inflated.  Will contact them about how to place an email order next week.


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 9:03 AM Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:
Dave,
thanks for the response. 

I am not sure if it was coincidence but I just heard from them and they completed the order.

Dave you were probably more on target than you know. Teresa apologized and said they had some employee turnover that had caused the delays. She said she hoped to avoid such tissues in the future.

I may sound like Roseanne Roseanna-Danna here from SNL but maybe this is now a case of "never mind".....


--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL



--
Wayne Taylor

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