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Re: Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

Brian Kopp
 

Dave,
thanks for the response. 

I am not sure if it was coincidence but I just heard from them and they completed the order.

Dave you were probably more on target than you know. Teresa apologized and said they had some employee turnover that had caused the delays. She said she hoped to avoid such tissues in the future.

I may sound like Roseanne Roseanna-Danna here from SNL but maybe this is now a case of "never mind".....


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Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: RGM Stock

Mark Lewis
 

Art,

Great looking build!

Mark Lewis 
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 10:03 AM Art D3 <apdutra3@...> wrote:
Brian the OB kit is a great build. I built one several years ago when Eric Bracher was still running RGM. I drilled out the hinge point on the hammer tower and assembled it so that the tower can be folded in the stowed position or erected to the operating position.


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Art Dutra
Meriden, CT


Re: RGM Stock

Art D3
 

Brian the OB kit is a great build. I built one several years ago when Eric Bracher was still running RGM. I drilled out the hinge point on the hammer tower and assembled it so that the tower can be folded in the stowed position or erected to the operating position.


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Art Dutra
Meriden, CT


Re: Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

Climax@...
 

Brian:
I can feel your frustration but how much are we talking about here, a couple of bucks or hundreds of dollars?  Discounts mean that someone, usually the dealer is taking a cut off the price of what ever in order to sell it to you.  We all enjoy discounts but to the cottage industry who operates on perhaps if they are lucky 10% now days it becomes a major problem.
As an example I use to have a hobby shop in the Orlando area called BKW Trains which I started and ran for 6 years.  Now a business costs a lot of money to run.  I had rent of the building I was in that cost me to start with $2500 a month and ended at $3500 a month, then there was insurance, phone, yellow pages ad, licensing, code compliance, upkeep, cleaning, maintenance, employee, customer theft, and employee wages and taxes to be paid, which all had to be paid out of the "profit" made on the goods I sold before I could even take a penny for myself.  
Now lets look at an item I sold.  As an example I will use either a Kato or Atlas N Scale Locomotive which retailed at $100. I use to get in 4 of each road name in each number plus the non numbered ones.  When they hit my shelf I put them at the same discount, 25% off, as Texan Rails which was a mail order house who did not have all my expenses.  Pretty neat, a home town shop which would have it all and you could get it now.  Customers would come in, look at it, feel it, smell, it, hear it, and practically taste them.  Then they would put them back in the plastic cases and order them from Texan Rails.  i asked why.  The answer was they could save the $6.00 in sales tax by ordering them that way.  I then asked how much were they charging to ship the order to them, if they still had that one.  The answer was $10 to $12.00.  
Now how much money did I make on these locomotives.  Because I ordered so many and paid for them ahead of time, I got 40/10/2.  or $52.92.  In other words the business was making a total of $22.08 on each locomotive which had to pay all the expenses as listed above.  I was always operating on a shoe string and at times that string would break.  I had an employee, Paul, whom I found out was skimming from the register, then he started taking merchandise home and selling it from there.  He was eventually fired when i caught on.  I had customer theft with empty boxes left on the shelves, combined kits into one box, and the city to deal with.  I will not even get into the swap meet dealers who pretend to be hobby shops at the wholesale level and get the same discounts as hobby shops then flood the market at deep discount prices even below the store costs causing dead stock on the shelves.

Every modeler dreams of owning a hobby shop and having the ability to get just about anything they want at a huge discount but everything you take off the shelf is a lost sale, every discount you give is a decrease in the bottom line.to continue.  i found out that customer loyalty goes about as far as the next discount offered.  In the six years that I ran BKW trains I had never taken a penny for myself as wages for the 7 days a week 364 days I worked from 9am to 8pm each day.  At the end of 6 years I closed up the doors and had only lost about $20K of my own money.  After I closed up, and leading up to it with a going out of business sale from Thanksgiving to just after New Year, I had people call my home and ask where I had moved to.  I told them I had not moved, I had closed.  I got some pretty strange remarks until I asked them when was the last time they had purchased anything from me.  

We are an odd lot of people who look for a discount as a way of life in our hobby.  Who hasn't looked for a Blackstone Engine or car at a reduced price when they came out, who has not scoured the internet for the next Mico-trains issue, track special, switch machine deal, or what ever.  Its out nature.  Who else saves this gidget or that cap thinking it would make a neat thing on our railroads.  

The one thing that I am trying to drive home here is that many of these "businesses" are what are referred to as Cottage industries.  They do this on the side and work other jobs to pay the bills.  Sometimes they are just busy, or on vacation, have a family problem, or are just not able to answer all the questions and such.  The small cottage industry i have Sierra Scale Models is an example.  i get orders in a then produce the product.  Sometimes i get some small orders and other times large order (large meaning $100 or more).  I take care of it but if an order shows up and I am not there, well it sits and waits for me to get back. Patience is a virtue.  I am sure they will answer you but remember that 20 cents, or two dollar discount you seek, or you will go to someone who will give it, hurts everyone sooner or later.
Just me rambling early in the morning, is all this is, Nothing more and nothing less.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Kopp
Sent: Jun 4, 2021 7:43 AM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

Has anybody had any luck in the past month or two ordering direct from Joel and Teresa Prantle through their tjmodeltrains yahoo email address?

Over the past month, they have not responded to my emails or voicemails looking to buy some parts.

I may have to resort to using their extensive ebay store. That is less preferred because they gave a 15% discount when you order direct via email from tjmodeltrains@....

Precisions Scale does not give a discount either when you order direct from them.

I must admit I don't understand the business arrangements here with these three vendors that I believe are all owned by the Prantle's?? But I guess I don't need to understand if I can get the parts I need. =)

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Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Ordering from tjmodeltrains??

Brian Kopp
 

Has anybody had any luck in the past month or two ordering direct from Joel and Teresa Prantle through their tjmodeltrains yahoo email address?

Over the past month, they have not responded to my emails or voicemails looking to buy some parts.

I may have to resort to using their extensive ebay store. That is less preferred because they gave a 15% discount when you order direct via email from tjmodeltrains@....

Precisions Scale does not give a discount either when you order direct from them.

I must admit I don't understand the business arrangements here with these three vendors that I believe are all owned by the Prantle's?? But I guess I don't need to understand if I can get the parts I need. =)

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Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


41st National Narrow Gauge Convention update for June

johnny graybeal
 

Another update should be up on the National Narrow Gauge Convention website by the weekend. We are pleased to announce that the first Tweetsie Country bus trip will soon be sold out. We will add more buses as registrations come in. The first private train at Tweetsie is over half reserved, and even the Ladies Biltmore bus trip is coming along nicely. More clinics, more photos and more information about this convention is at www.41nngc.com. Share this with your friends here or on facebook and elsewhere.


Re: RGM Stock

Brian Kopp
 

Art,
I just had the same experience with RGM as you. Ordered Sunday, arrived today. Here is a photo of the pile driver kit. Looks challenging and fun, and well documented, which a novice like me appreciates......

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Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: Curecanti

Jim Spencer
 

The Slim Gauge Guild in Pasadena probably has the most realistic depiction of Curecanti Needle. Of course the scene is probably 30’ long. It terminates with the Crystal Creek Bridge scene. I know it well because I built the model.


Re: Curecanti

Paul Buhrke
 

Thank you Mark.
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Paul Buhrke
D&RGW Salida Division
Lost in the Black Canyon in 1929


Re: Curecanti

Mark Lewis
 

Paul,

The scene is just spot on...so well done.
Thanks for sharing all the photos.

Mark Lewis 
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 6:54 PM Paul Buhrke <Risrwy@...> wrote:
Last picture as I am finished here. I want to stay with the "less is better" thoughts.
Onward to other windmills.
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Paul Buhrke
D&RGW Salida Division
Lost in the Black Canyon in 1929


Curecanti

Paul Buhrke
 

Last picture as I am finished here. I want to stay with the "less is better" thoughts.
Onward to other windmills.
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Paul Buhrke
D&RGW Salida Division
Lost in the Black Canyon in 1929


Tweetsie Time Celebration at ETSU Cancelled

Curtis Brookshire
 

Dr. Fred Alsop sent me this message earlier this morning:

It is with deep regret that I have to inform you that we have failed to come close to the minimum number of registered participants for our planned Tweetsie Time Celebration to let it go forward.  It was one of those great ideas that just did not materialize with enough registered folks by our deadline to make it worthwhile for all my volunteers, speakers, and clinic instructors, as well as financially, to make it happen this time.  I am really disappointed that we could not make it work.  I fear that there are still a lot of people who don’t want to share indoor space with others because of the pandemic  and I appreciate their reluctance to join us for this event.  It would have been a lot of fun.

Please take note if you were possibly planning to visit for a day this weekend.
Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level NC


Re: Black Canyon

Paul Buhrke
 
Edited

Two more pictures of rock work.
Yes it is that tall.
All same coloring just the lighting is different.
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Paul Buhrke
D&RGW Salida Division
Lost in the Black Canyon in 1929


Re: Black Canyon

Paul Buhrke
 

Unreal Details "Magic Water". Used already and so easy even I could do it first time without errors.
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Paul Buhrke
D&RGW Salida Division
Lost in the Black Canyon in 1929


Re: Black Canyon

Paul Buhrke
 

Rock molds from Woodland Scenics; 1234, 1236, 1237, 1242, 1243, 1244.
Cut and paste, chisel and fit, however and where-ever.
Three pictures showing I hope the puzzle they are.
Woodland Scenics raw/burnt umber first applied to all surfaces, then stone grey with one inch bruch, finished with home-made brew (W/S still) of light grey for highlights using small piece of sea sponge. 
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Paul Buhrke
D&RGW Salida Division
Lost in the Black Canyon in 1929


Re: Black Canyon

lloyd lehrer
 

Paul, did you use a rock mold and if so which if you can remember. Alternately a nuce closeup of the rock work would be great if you are willing. Beautiful blending of the scene.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Mon, May 31, 2021, 10:52 AM Ric Case <ebtmodeler@...> wrote:
What water are you choosing to use for your river?

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On May 31, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Mike Smith via groups.io <spmike50=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


Paul,

Very nice!

Mike  Smith 

On Monday, May 31, 2021, 06:10:39 AM MST, Steven Haworth <haworth7@...> wrote:


Yes - very nice!  And a location rarely modeled too.

On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 6:40 AM Jeff Young <jeff@...> wrote:
Nice!






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lloyd lehrer


Re: Black Canyon

Ric Case
 

What water are you choosing to use for your river?

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On May 31, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Mike Smith via groups.io <spmike50@...> wrote:


Paul,

Very nice!

Mike  Smith 

On Monday, May 31, 2021, 06:10:39 AM MST, Steven Haworth <haworth7@...> wrote:


Yes - very nice!  And a location rarely modeled too.

On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 6:40 AM Jeff Young <jeff@...> wrote:
Nice!






Re: diaphragms for coaches

Mark Lewis
 

Art,

👍🏼👍🏼

Mark Lewis 

On Mon, May 31, 2021, 9:53 AM Art D3 <apdutra3@...> wrote:
Just a quick update. I've gone through several iterations of a working diaphragm produced by 3D printing and I'm close to a functional prototype. Waiting on springs to arrive to complete some testing. I'll post some pictures shortly. It's one of several projects on the workbench.
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Art Dutra
Meriden, CT


Re: diaphragms for coaches

Art D3
 

Just a quick update. I've gone through several iterations of a working diaphragm produced by 3D printing and I'm close to a functional prototype. Waiting on springs to arrive to complete some testing. I'll post some pictures shortly. It's one of several projects on the workbench.
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Art Dutra
Meriden, CT


Re: RGM Stock

Art D3
 

I purchased two sets of 6200 series flat car decals from their stock last week. Order arrived in about 4 days. So the new owner is filling orders promptly.
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Art Dutra
Meriden, CT

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