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Re: PFM White pass & Yukon mikado

John Stutz
 

Bob

Attached is a photograph of WP&Y 71, probably taken by the Dedman Studio photographer during initial trials.   This is he online versionof item 05202_141 in the Royal Museum of British Colombia collection. 

The 70 was initially very similar, except 70 had conventionally located air tanks under the left running board, and the exhaust steam injector was on the right side.   Both initially had a single phase air pump on each side, and the narrow bunker tender show here. Both engines were subsequently rebuilt with exhaust steam injectors removed, a cross-compound air pump on the left side, and fitted with much larger former USATC tenders.  The 71 retained the front mounted air tank. I have not attempted to determine the order or timing of these changes, but believe that all occurred after USATC's departure.

The 72 & 73 were supplied in 1947, with single sand dome, a cross-compound air pump, conventional air tanks, and arranged to use USATC tenders.  All four were initially coal burners, and converted to oil in the 1950s.

So I believe that the PFM  model is specific to the rebuilt 70, but should give a reasonable 73 or 73 by removing the rear sand dome. 

John Stutz

On February 8, 2021 1:40 PM Robert Veefkind via groups.io <snookdust@...> wrote:


  Any info on this model with 2 sand domes? Looks like early stuff maybe 1970 or so. The prototype still running at Dollywood. Looks like a good candidate for a Sagami 1630  which are hard to find. There are a few Faulhabers  on ebay but all gearheads. Some of you gents have been finding all kinds of stuff from China, anything close to a long shaft 1630 Sagami ?    Any info is appreciated.  Bob Veefkind


Re: Looking for a Roundhouse Hon3 Outside Frame 2-8-0 Kit #472

LenTRaley
 

Eric:

I have what you are seeking. Contact me off-line. 

Be safe and be well,

Len Raley


Re: Looking for a Roundhouse Hon3 Outside Frame 2-8-0 Kit #472

martin feldwick
 

Sorry its ebay UK  so you probably need to alter search  area

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 12:02 PM <Climax@...> wrote:
Must be gone, can't find it on ebay.

-----Original Message-----
From: martin feldwick
Sent: Feb 9, 2021 6:28 AM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Looking for a Roundhouse Hon3 Outside Frame 2-8-0 Kit #472

 I have a used  outside frame kit .its got an assembled running chassis  that runs fine  with all parts except some smaller details and the front truck wheels which I have put in some others that should work .It also has a spare outside frame ,wheels ,cranks and running gear parts from the  2-4-4-0 Moosejaw conversion  kit .These are mainly plastic except the frame .it includes those elusive  hex crank pin caps .its on Ebay UK but feel free to PM me
best regards
Martin


Re: Looking for a Roundhouse Hon3 Outside Frame 2-8-0 Kit #472

Climax@...
 

Must be gone, can't find it on ebay.

-----Original Message-----
From: martin feldwick
Sent: Feb 9, 2021 6:28 AM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Looking for a Roundhouse Hon3 Outside Frame 2-8-0 Kit #472

 I have a used  outside frame kit .its got an assembled running chassis  that runs fine  with all parts except some smaller details and the front truck wheels which I have put in some others that should work .It also has a spare outside frame ,wheels ,cranks and running gear parts from the  2-4-4-0 Moosejaw conversion  kit .These are mainly plastic except the frame .it includes those elusive  hex crank pin caps .its on Ebay UK but feel free to PM me
best regards
Martin


Re: Looking for a Roundhouse Hon3 Outside Frame 2-8-0 Kit #472

martin feldwick
 

 I have a used  outside frame kit .its got an assembled running chassis  that runs fine  with all parts except some smaller details and the front truck wheels which I have put in some others that should work .It also has a spare outside frame ,wheels ,cranks and running gear parts from the  2-4-4-0 Moosejaw conversion  kit .These are mainly plastic except the frame .it includes those elusive  hex crank pin caps .its on Ebay UK but feel free to PM me
best regards
Martin


Re: PFM White pass & Yukon mikado

Robert Bell
 

Bob,

All 500 of the PFM 70 class Mikados were built in 1968.  They all had 3-domes.  If you want a two dome version, the easiest is to just remove the rear sand dome.  But, the real 72 and 73 had a larger steam dome and a larger single sand dome.  So, what I did on mine was remove all of the domes, the old steam dome becomes the new sand dome, and a new dome from PSC was installed as the larger steam dome.  On mine, I have also modified/replaced the air pump & piping, air tank, injector pipes, headlight, and running boards to better represent the 72 circa 1959.  

The one running at Dollywood is the 70 which has three domes.

Motor wise, the 15mm square Minibea is perfect.  I think I sent you photos of the motor mount I made for mine.  Use 1mm I.D. silicone tubing (also from China for about $1-$2/meter) to connect the motor shaft to the stock gear train.  I liked this motor so much that I ripped out the 16x30mm Sagami I had installed back in the early 1990s out and sold it on eBay - somebody bid $60 for it.  The motors from China cost me about $20 for 10 of them!!!

If you want more photos of my project, I can send you some.

Rob Bell
Modeling the White Pass & Yukon Route in HOn3
Waynesville, NC




On Monday, February 8, 2021, 04:40:17 PM EST, Robert Veefkind via groups.io <snookdust@...> wrote:



  Any info on this model with 2 sand domes? Looks like early stuff maybe 1970 or so. The prototype still running at Dollywood. Looks like a good candidate for a Sagami 1630  which are hard to find. There are a few Faulhabers  on ebay but all gearheads. Some of you gents have been finding all kinds of stuff from China, anything close to a long shaft 1630 Sagami ?    Any info is appreciated.  Bob Veefkind


Re: PFM White pass & Yukon mikado

Robert Veefkind
 

 
 
In a message dated 2/8/2021 7:27:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, luggw1@... writes:
 
How about a Minebea 15 mm square with a Hobbytown universal to connect
it to the gear box?

Look at this
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/Minebea-15MM-15MM-Square-Mini-DC-Motor-DC-12V-6500RPM-Large-Torque-6-Pole-Rotor-/262928506587>,
for example.

I used one in a Westside SP 4-8-0 for my Dad and it works great.

HTH
Bill Lugg




thanks Bill    I do have a few of those and will take a look-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


Re: PFM White pass & Yukon mikado

Bill Lugg
 

How about a Minebea 15 mm square with a Hobbytown universal to connect it to the gear box?

Look at this <https://www.ebay.com/itm/Minebea-15MM-15MM-Square-Mini-DC-Motor-DC-12V-6500RPM-Large-Torque-6-Pole-Rotor-/262928506587>, for example.

I used one in a Westside SP 4-8-0 for my Dad and it works great.

HTH
Bill Lugg

On 2/8/21 2:40 PM, Robert Veefkind via groups.io wrote:

  Any info on this model with 2 sand domes? Looks like early stuff maybe 1970 or so. The prototype still running at Dollywood. Looks like a good candidate for a Sagami 1630  which are hard to find. There are a few Faulhabers  on ebay but all gearheads. Some of you gents have been finding all kinds of stuff from China, anything close to a long shaft 1630 Sagami ?    Any info is appreciated.  Bob Veefkind


PFM White pass & Yukon mikado

Robert Veefkind
 


  Any info on this model with 2 sand domes? Looks like early stuff maybe 1970 or so. The prototype still running at Dollywood. Looks like a good candidate for a Sagami 1630  which are hard to find. There are a few Faulhabers  on ebay but all gearheads. Some of you gents have been finding all kinds of stuff from China, anything close to a long shaft 1630 Sagami ?    Any info is appreciated.  Bob Veefkind


Re: buildings

Steve Hatch
 

Combo  stains and paints


Re: buildings

Craig Linn
 

Looks great Steve. 

Are you using stains or paints or a combo?

Craig

On Feb 7, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Steve Hatch <hatch@...> wrote:

  I slowed down a bit and worked on a Banta building.  It's coming out real well
I sure like it's character. take a look

https://www.railwayeng.com/Build/build100.jpg
https://www.railwayeng.com/Build/build101.jpg
https://www.railwayeng.com/Build/build102.jpg

fun
Steve


Re: buildings

Steve Hatch
 

  I slowed down a bit and worked on a Banta building.  It's coming out real well
I sure like it's character. take a look

https://www.railwayeng.com/Build/build100.jpg
https://www.railwayeng.com/Build/build101.jpg
https://www.railwayeng.com/Build/build102.jpg

fun
Steve


Modeling Due to the Virus

 

I saw this in the paper today and thought I would share it.  It reads like it is more toward Europe than the US.

Bruce Dunlevy


Re: Gazette

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Feb 7, 2021, at 06:17, Mick Moignard <mick@mickmoignard.com> wrote:

Ditto my collection, also from V1 issue 1!
My hardcopy collection is incomplete, but I do have a decent collection of Finelines, and the DVD, and all hardcopy issues from the last decade or so.
--
"He sold his earthright for a pot of message."
F. Feghoot


Re: Gazette

Climax@...
 

Not only does my collection include all of the Gazette's but I have conmplete runs of"
Fine Lines
Slim Gauge News
Timber Times
Timber Beast
Tall Timber short Lines
Model Railroader
Railroad model craftsman
and over a hundred hard bound books plus at least the same of soft covers.
Lots of weight to haul around all the time.  They have been from the Chicago area to Detroit, to Key West, to San Juan Puerto Rico, to Orlando, to Texas, and back to Orlando, but the heaviest thing is my full size switch stand which went from Florida to Texas and return,.  It sits by my front door and I have no fear someone will take it. hahahahhah
Mule

-----Original Message-----
From: Mick Moignard
Sent: Feb 7, 2021 9:17 AM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Gazette

Ditto my collection, also from V1 issue 1!

Mick

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Re: Gazette

Mick Moignard
 

Ditto my collection, also from V1 issue 1!

Mick

________________________________
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m: +44 7774 652504
Skype: mickmoignard

The week may start M,T but it always ends WTF.


Re: buildings

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Dale,

RichthoFen not RichthoVen, thanks for the correction. I'm just teaching my daughter to speak Polish and I'm pretty much at sea dealing with spelling.

About to assemble my Goose 6. Final parts arrived Friday, still a bit of filing to do but it might get a dry run on DC sometime today. Will have to wait until glues set.

Mark K


Re: Gazette

Mark Rosche
 

wow!!! that means my complete collection starting at Vol.1 Issue 1 is worth a mint 😁🤣🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻

Regards,

Mark

Don‘t take life too seriously...no one gets out alive anyway....

On 6. Feb 2021, at 19:34, Steen Mortensen <steenerik@...> wrote:



NO I’d NEVER pay that ! Which is why I was so surprised by the listing! Obviously it is not AMAZON that offers this,

But I’ll look into that for fun. Believe I bought mine in a collection years ago for less that $20.00, much better.

It IS a nice issue as are all those!

 

Time to go into the basement, it is snowing outside..

 

Steen

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: kevin b via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 12:25 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Gazette

 

what? this must be some kind of a joke. surely you did not pay 768.57 for a single back issue?

if you did, contact me before you buy another as i have numerous duplicate back issues, all in near mint or better condition.

 

On Saturday, February 6, 2021, 12:20:09 PM CST, Steen Mortensen <steenerik@...> wrote:

 

 

Great!  Curious what you paid with Amazon posting this???

 

I fortunately found mine years ago, but did not know the prices went to that height….maybe need more insurance??

 

Steen

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Bell via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 11:28 AM
To: HOn3 Group
Subject: [HOn3] Gazette

 

I FINALLY got the Jan/Feb Gazette, today!!!!

 

Rob Bell

Modeling the White Pass & Yukon Route in HOn3

Waynesville, NC

 

 

 

 

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Re: Gazette

Steen Mortensen
 

NO I’d NEVER pay that ! Which is why I was so surprised by the listing! Obviously it is not AMAZON that offers this,

But I’ll look into that for fun. Believe I bought mine in a collection years ago for less that $20.00, much better.

It IS a nice issue as are all those!

 

Time to go into the basement, it is snowing outside..

 

Steen

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: kevin b via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 12:25 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Gazette

 

what? this must be some kind of a joke. surely you did not pay 768.57 for a single back issue?

if you did, contact me before you buy another as i have numerous duplicate back issues, all in near mint or better condition.

 

On Saturday, February 6, 2021, 12:20:09 PM CST, Steen Mortensen <steenerik@...> wrote:

 

 

Great!  Curious what you paid with Amazon posting this???

 

I fortunately found mine years ago, but did not know the prices went to that height….maybe need more insurance??

 

Steen

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Bell via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 11:28 AM
To: HOn3 Group
Subject: [HOn3] Gazette

 

I FINALLY got the Jan/Feb Gazette, today!!!!

 

Rob Bell

Modeling the White Pass & Yukon Route in HOn3

Waynesville, NC

 

 

 

 


Re: Gazette

kevin b
 

what? this must be some kind of a joke. surely you did not pay 768.57 for a single back issue?
if you did, contact me before you buy another as i have numerous duplicate back issues, all in near mint or better condition.

On Saturday, February 6, 2021, 12:20:09 PM CST, Steen Mortensen <steenerik@...> wrote:


Great!  Curious what you paid with Amazon posting this???

 

I fortunately found mine years ago, but did not know the prices went to that height….maybe need more insurance??

 

Steen

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Bell via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 11:28 AM
To: HOn3 Group
Subject: [HOn3] Gazette

 

I FINALLY got the Jan/Feb Gazette, today!!!!

 

Rob Bell

Modeling the White Pass & Yukon Route in HOn3

Waynesville, NC

 

 

 

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