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Questions about Blackstone c-19

Frank Smelt Jr
 

Being new to the hobby I have couple of questions about some issues I am having.   My layout is on the smaller size (4x8) and I recently acquired a “lightly used” Blackstone C-19 number 342 on E-bay. 

Issue 1.   I have a new NCE 46 DCC Control System.   No matter what I do the system cannot find the locomotive.  I get the sound but locomotive will not move and functions like whistle, light, etc. do not work.

Issue 2.   I also have an older Digitrax DCS 50.   This will recognize the locomotive and will operate all functions associated with same.   However, the locomotive does not operate smoothly on a consistent basis.   It will stop intermediately the start again, also operating in reverse can be challenging.   Track seems to be very clean and I make sure I clean it before operating.  Wheels on the tender and loco have also been cleaned.

 

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Frank S.

 

 


Re: small speakers

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Yes, I know of them but haven't yet bought one, but I will!
BTW the Scale Sound System website lists the same Tang Band speakers that I mentioned in my earlier mail. So they must be held in some regard as well.

Mark K
Oxon England.


Re: Looking for a Roundhouse Hon3 Outside Frame 2-8-0 Kit #472

Mike Conder
 

I have a friend who may soon  be selling one from an estate.  Contact me offline. 

Mike Conder 

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 11:28 PM Eric Hayward <ehayward482@...> wrote:
Trying to track down one, all the ones I've seen on ebay lately are all the inside frame, not the outside frame. If you have one sitting on a shelf thats looking for a new home, Please let me know.

Thanks,
Eric H


Looking for a Roundhouse Hon3 Outside Frame 2-8-0 Kit #472

Eric Hayward
 

Trying to track down one, all the ones I've seen on ebay lately are all the inside frame, not the outside frame. If you have one sitting on a shelf thats looking for a new home, Please let me know.

Thanks,
Eric H


Re: small speakers

 

Did you look at Scale Sound Systems? Check out the What’s Neat This Week #143 on YouTube.

Bruce Dunlevy 


On Jan 26, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Mark Kasprowicz <mark@...> wrote:

Long and skinny. I'd be interested to know what they sound like. I just received some Tang Band speakers with built in passive cones all in their own enclosure. They're quite large but they will fit some K class tenders. ESU are also selling them.
There are also the iPhone speaker replacements which are certainly worth a look at (listened to). The point being that there's a lot of new stuff available, just needs to be checked out.

Mark K
Oxon England


Re: small speakers

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Long and skinny. I'd be interested to know what they sound like. I just received some Tang Band speakers with built in passive cones all in their own enclosure. They're quite large but they will fit some K class tenders. ESU are also selling them.
There are also the iPhone speaker replacements which are certainly worth a look at (listened to). The point being that there's a lot of new stuff available, just needs to be checked out.

Mark K
Oxon England


Re: small speakers

Mick Moignard
 

Respectfully, that is a HUGE speaker for the HOn3 world.  I use 15*11, 9*16 and 18*15 speakers in my HOn3 models with laser cut enclosures, and these enable you to get them in the smokeboxes of small locos, T-19, C-16, C-17 and so on....

Mick
______________________________________________________________________
Mick Moignard
Specialising in DCC Sound
p: +44 7774 652504
e:
mick@...
skype: mickmoignard
The week may start M,T but it always ends up WTF!


Re: small speakers

Mick Moignard
 

Respectfully, that is a HUGE speaker for the HOn3 world.  I use 15*11, 9*16 and 18*15 speakers in my HOn3 models with laser cut enclosures, and these enable you to get them in the smokeboxes of small locos, T-19, C-16, C-17 and so on....

Mick
______________________________________________________________________
Mick Moignard
Specialising in DCC Sound
p: +44 7774 652504
e:
mick@...
skype: mickmoignard
The week may start M,T but it always ends up WTF!


small speakers

Rick Rhode <rvrhode@...>
 

I was on the MPJA Electronics web site and saw a 1 watt, 8 ohm, 22mm long, 9mm wide, 5mm deep speaker for $1.95.  On board sound?


Re: Art Supply Store Visit

John Stutz
 

Jim & Dusty

I have used graphite on raw basswood to get a driftwood effect suitable for aged standing wood.  This is just a light application from the side of a graphite pencil, smeared none too uniformly with an artist's rolled paper stumpf.  Key is to keep the initial application light.  The result on such white wood is a light and slightly iridescent gray, characteristic of raw wood that has stood in moderately wet weather for a few decades. 

Jim Vail once suggested lightly weathering wood sheathed cars by a applying a sharp wedge pointed graphite pencil to the grooves between boards where the paint first breaks down.  I have fond this quite effective. 

In both cases i have used ordinary artist's or drafting pencils, of the sort specifically made of graphite.  I have not yet tried either graphite sticks, or water soluble graphite pencils, both of which are available in a variety of tints.

John Stutz

On January 24, 2021 2:38 PM Jim Marlett < jmarlett@...> wrote:


I agree.Galvanized metal I’ve seen loses that metallic sheen pretty quickly. Personally, I wouldn’t bother, but every eye is different. As for the water soluble graphic (did you mean graphite?) stick, give it a try. If you don’t like it, wash it off or paint over it. You may be on the cutting edge of a new technique. If you are talking about graphite, I would think it will just be black, but it would be interesting to know for sure. Powdered graphite does have a sheen to it, but it is way too dark IMHO.

Jim Marlett


Re: Art Supply Store Visit

Climax@...
 

put a small coating of slow drying white glue, then sprinkle complete coverage with graphite, then after it dries good, take a Q tip and rub it to bring up the polish.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Marlett <jmarlett@cox.net>
Sent: Jan 24, 2021 5:38 PM
To: HOn3 Group <HOn3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Art Supply Store Visit

I agree.Galvanized metal I’ve seen loses that metallic sheen pretty quickly. Personally, I wouldn’t bother, but every eye is different. As for the water soluble graphic (did you mean graphite?) stick, give it a try. If you don’t like it, wash it off or paint over it. You may be on the cutting edge of a new technique. If you are talking about graphite, I would think it will just be black, but it would be interesting to know for sure. Powdered graphite does have a sheen to it, but it is way too dark IMHO.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


On Jan 24, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Ric Case <ebtmodeler@gmail.com> wrote:

Dusty: what age are you going for?
How old would the roof actually be?
Normal aging starts the first day in the sun!
Old corrugated iron would start turning dull gray!
This would wind up rusting along the edges and any nail holes.
Age of the structure and locale will determine what color you will be working to!
New building semi shiny!
Older, many shades of grey and rust.
Just my views over the last 5 decades!
Most of my structures have been on the railroad for many years!
I model the EBT in 1947.
Not many buildings around the railroad were very new!
So I color the roofs to represent decades of exposure!
Your building your choice.

Ric Case
EBT Modeler
Hamilton Ohio
1-513-375-7694





Re: Art Supply Store Visit

Jim Marlett
 

I agree.Galvanized metal I’ve seen loses that metallic sheen pretty quickly. Personally, I wouldn’t bother, but every eye is different. As for the water soluble graphic (did you mean graphite?) stick, give it a try. If you don’t like it, wash it off or paint over it. You may be on the cutting edge of a new technique. If you are talking about graphite, I would think it will just be black, but it would be interesting to know for sure. Powdered graphite does have a sheen to it, but it is way too dark IMHO.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/

On Jan 24, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Ric Case <ebtmodeler@gmail.com> wrote:

Dusty: what age are you going for?
How old would the roof actually be?
Normal aging starts the first day in the sun!
Old corrugated iron would start turning dull gray!
This would wind up rusting along the edges and any nail holes.
Age of the structure and locale will determine what color you will be working to!
New building semi shiny!
Older, many shades of grey and rust.
Just my views over the last 5 decades!
Most of my structures have been on the railroad for many years!
I model the EBT in 1947.
Not many buildings around the railroad were very new!
So I color the roofs to represent decades of exposure!
Your building your choice.

Ric Case
EBT Modeler
Hamilton Ohio
1-513-375-7694


Re: Art Supply Store Visit

Dale Buxton
 

Dusty,

I am familiar with Golden Iridescent paints. They have finely ground up Mika in them. The Mika acts like micro sized prisms. They make the surface of the paint look sparkly, but in all the colors of the rainbow. If that is what  you are looking for then you have found the right stuff.

Dale Buxton

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 12:54 Dusty <Dustburm@q.com> wrote:
During an unsupervised visit to Arizona Art Supply these items caught my fancy.



I was looking for 'stuff' to make Evergreen Corrugated look correctly metal. Does anyone have experience with the water soluble graphic stick. It looks like it might add that hint of metalic washed very lightly over Corrugated Styrene colored grey with a trace of silver. The gunmetal water color pencil doesn't appear to have any metalic reflection in it. Am I headed in the right direction? Any thoughts?

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707


Re: Art Supply Store Visit

Dusty
 

Ric,

My time is 1939 or 40ish. So I would have some very old structures and some not so old buildings.  Growing up in the rural midwest I noticed that roofs looked more aged than walls. I also noticed some Corrugated buildings were painted. I feel that I need to understand how to do a range of effects from late 1800s to 1920s. And perhaps newer. I guess I need to learn some techniques and test them out. I'm comfortable with horizontal seams but representing the vertical seams in Styrene Corrugated is yet to be perfected. Any help will be appreciated.

Dusty Burman


Re: Art Supply Store Visit

Ric Case
 

Dusty: what age are you going for?
How old would the roof actually be?
Normal aging starts the first day in the sun! 
Old corrugated iron would start turning dull gray!
This would wind up rusting along the edges and any nail holes. 
Age of the structure and locale will determine what color you will be working to!
New building semi shiny! 
Older, many shades of grey and rust.
Just my views over the last 5 decades! 
Most of my structures have been on the railroad for many years! 
I model the EBT in 1947.
Not many buildings around the railroad were very new! 
So I color the roofs to represent decades of exposure!
Your building your choice.

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Jan 24, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Dusty <dustburm@q.com> wrote:

During an unsupervised visit to Arizona Art Supply these items caught my fancy.

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I was looking for 'stuff' to make Evergreen Corrugated look correctly metal. Does anyone have experience with the water soluble graphic stick. It looks like it might add that hint of metalic washed very lightly over Corrugated Styrene colored grey with a trace of silver. The gunmetal water color pencil doesn't appear to have any metalic reflection in it. Am I headed in the right direction? Any thoughts?

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707


Re: Corrugated siding

LARRY KLOSE
 

I got a corrugated iron pressing tool from these guys:

Brunel Models
https://www.brunelmodels.net/

Mine's S scale but they have all the major scales. It's an Australian
company so shipping might take a little bit of time... .

Larry


Art Supply Store Visit

Dusty
 

During an unsupervised visit to Arizona Art Supply these items caught my fancy.



I was looking for 'stuff' to make Evergreen Corrugated look correctly metal. Does anyone have experience with the water soluble graphic stick. It looks like it might add that hint of metalic washed very lightly over Corrugated Styrene colored grey with a trace of silver. The gunmetal water color pencil doesn't appear to have any metalic reflection in it. Am I headed in the right direction? Any thoughts?

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707


Re: Corrugated siding

Climax@...
 

Don:
It would have made it much more pleasurable to have Molly Murphy, from her House of Ill Repute, do the pressing up against you to get the ridges you desired! hahahhaha
Mule

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bergman
Sent: Jan 23, 2021 10:57 PM
To: "HOn3@groups.io"
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Corrugated siding

MY Vanadium mill complex is all heavy-duty aluminum foil.  At $15.00 I would have purchased that tool in a minute.  I pressed it against a piece of corrugated styrene.
Don Bergman


Re: Corrugated siding

Climax@...
 

I have used a large straight cut, not cross cut, metal file and finger pressure to make the corrugations.  Aluminum foil is fun to play with, you can make anything from corrugated metal to match rockets with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bergman
Sent: Jan 23, 2021 10:57 PM
To: "HOn3@groups.io"
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Corrugated siding

MY Vanadium mill complex is all heavy-duty aluminum foil.  At $15.00 I would have purchased that tool in a minute.  I pressed it against a piece of corrugated styrene.
Don Bergman


Re: Corrugated siding

Mark Lewis
 

Don, 

Your Mill complex build is spectacular!

Mark Lewis 
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

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