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Re: Art Supply Store Visit

Jim Marlett
 

I agree.Galvanized metal I’ve seen loses that metallic sheen pretty quickly. Personally, I wouldn’t bother, but every eye is different. As for the water soluble graphic (did you mean graphite?) stick, give it a try. If you don’t like it, wash it off or paint over it. You may be on the cutting edge of a new technique. If you are talking about graphite, I would think it will just be black, but it would be interesting to know for sure. Powdered graphite does have a sheen to it, but it is way too dark IMHO.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/

On Jan 24, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Ric Case <ebtmodeler@gmail.com> wrote:

Dusty: what age are you going for?
How old would the roof actually be?
Normal aging starts the first day in the sun!
Old corrugated iron would start turning dull gray!
This would wind up rusting along the edges and any nail holes.
Age of the structure and locale will determine what color you will be working to!
New building semi shiny!
Older, many shades of grey and rust.
Just my views over the last 5 decades!
Most of my structures have been on the railroad for many years!
I model the EBT in 1947.
Not many buildings around the railroad were very new!
So I color the roofs to represent decades of exposure!
Your building your choice.

Ric Case
EBT Modeler
Hamilton Ohio
1-513-375-7694


Re: Art Supply Store Visit

Dale Buxton
 

Dusty,

I am familiar with Golden Iridescent paints. They have finely ground up Mika in them. The Mika acts like micro sized prisms. They make the surface of the paint look sparkly, but in all the colors of the rainbow. If that is what  you are looking for then you have found the right stuff.

Dale Buxton

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 12:54 Dusty <Dustburm@q.com> wrote:
During an unsupervised visit to Arizona Art Supply these items caught my fancy.



I was looking for 'stuff' to make Evergreen Corrugated look correctly metal. Does anyone have experience with the water soluble graphic stick. It looks like it might add that hint of metalic washed very lightly over Corrugated Styrene colored grey with a trace of silver. The gunmetal water color pencil doesn't appear to have any metalic reflection in it. Am I headed in the right direction? Any thoughts?

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707


Re: Art Supply Store Visit

Dusty
 

Ric,

My time is 1939 or 40ish. So I would have some very old structures and some not so old buildings.  Growing up in the rural midwest I noticed that roofs looked more aged than walls. I also noticed some Corrugated buildings were painted. I feel that I need to understand how to do a range of effects from late 1800s to 1920s. And perhaps newer. I guess I need to learn some techniques and test them out. I'm comfortable with horizontal seams but representing the vertical seams in Styrene Corrugated is yet to be perfected. Any help will be appreciated.

Dusty Burman


Re: Art Supply Store Visit

Ric Case
 

Dusty: what age are you going for?
How old would the roof actually be?
Normal aging starts the first day in the sun! 
Old corrugated iron would start turning dull gray!
This would wind up rusting along the edges and any nail holes. 
Age of the structure and locale will determine what color you will be working to!
New building semi shiny! 
Older, many shades of grey and rust.
Just my views over the last 5 decades! 
Most of my structures have been on the railroad for many years! 
I model the EBT in 1947.
Not many buildings around the railroad were very new! 
So I color the roofs to represent decades of exposure!
Your building your choice.

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Jan 24, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Dusty <dustburm@q.com> wrote:

During an unsupervised visit to Arizona Art Supply these items caught my fancy.

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I was looking for 'stuff' to make Evergreen Corrugated look correctly metal. Does anyone have experience with the water soluble graphic stick. It looks like it might add that hint of metalic washed very lightly over Corrugated Styrene colored grey with a trace of silver. The gunmetal water color pencil doesn't appear to have any metalic reflection in it. Am I headed in the right direction? Any thoughts?

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707


Re: Corrugated siding

LARRY KLOSE
 

I got a corrugated iron pressing tool from these guys:

Brunel Models
https://www.brunelmodels.net/

Mine's S scale but they have all the major scales. It's an Australian
company so shipping might take a little bit of time... .

Larry


Art Supply Store Visit

Dusty
 

During an unsupervised visit to Arizona Art Supply these items caught my fancy.



I was looking for 'stuff' to make Evergreen Corrugated look correctly metal. Does anyone have experience with the water soluble graphic stick. It looks like it might add that hint of metalic washed very lightly over Corrugated Styrene colored grey with a trace of silver. The gunmetal water color pencil doesn't appear to have any metalic reflection in it. Am I headed in the right direction? Any thoughts?

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707


Re: Corrugated siding

Climax@...
 

Don:
It would have made it much more pleasurable to have Molly Murphy, from her House of Ill Repute, do the pressing up against you to get the ridges you desired! hahahhaha
Mule

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bergman
Sent: Jan 23, 2021 10:57 PM
To: "HOn3@groups.io"
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Corrugated siding

MY Vanadium mill complex is all heavy-duty aluminum foil.  At $15.00 I would have purchased that tool in a minute.  I pressed it against a piece of corrugated styrene.
Don Bergman


Re: Corrugated siding

Climax@...
 

I have used a large straight cut, not cross cut, metal file and finger pressure to make the corrugations.  Aluminum foil is fun to play with, you can make anything from corrugated metal to match rockets with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bergman
Sent: Jan 23, 2021 10:57 PM
To: "HOn3@groups.io"
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Corrugated siding

MY Vanadium mill complex is all heavy-duty aluminum foil.  At $15.00 I would have purchased that tool in a minute.  I pressed it against a piece of corrugated styrene.
Don Bergman


Re: Corrugated siding

Mark Lewis
 

Don, 

Your Mill complex build is spectacular!

Mark Lewis 
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.


Re: Corrugated siding

Don Bergman
 

MY Vanadium mill complex is all heavy-duty aluminum foil.  At $15.00 I would have purchased that tool in a minute.  I pressed it against a piece of corrugated styrene.
Don Bergman


Re: Corrugated siding

Alan Kilby
 

I've used 2 combs laying foil on 1 and pressing other on top to corrugate foil.Combs have lots of different space,size times to choose from.I use a metal pet comb on bottom.
Alan


From: HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io> on behalf of Mark Rosche via groups.io <m_rosche@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2021 12:31:11 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Corrugated siding
 
Hi,

To add to the list of tools for making model corrugated metal here is one from „down under“ the tool is available from N to G Scale:


I use the S Scale one quite often and use „Shisha“ foil as it is thicker than heavy duty aluminum foil with good results.

Regards,

Mark

Don‘t take life too seriously...no one gets out alive anyway....

On 23. Jan 2021, at 21:12, Eric Schrowang <eschrowang@...> wrote:


Hi All,
Here is a tool to make your own corrugated metal. It is in 1/72nd scale but I fiquire it is close enough to 1/87 for most folks. They also make one in 1/48th scale for any O scale modelers. Rick Green did a good video on this in Train Masters TV.

Eric


On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:50 PM Steve Hatch <hatch@...> wrote:
   I actually make my own as needed.   I make it out of the real thick aluminum foil
and form it on a "stick" I made with corrugations on it.
 The stick is the right size to make panels and I just rub the foil on the
surface of the stick and "voila" you have a corrugated panel.
I can se
<corsiding1.jpg>
nd a picture if you want it.


Re: Old layout photos

Climax@...
 

These look like fine starts.  Way too many arm chair model railroaders will say something but cannot model two stick together if they had to,  One must realize that most of your early mining structures were not precision built buildings and sure did not comply with any code.  They were coverings for shafts, for stamp mills, vats, grinders, tables, or what ever equipment they had.  If they would have taken the structure down and reassembled it would be completely different.  So who is to say what you have built is not a perfect model of THAT mine set.  I sure couldn't land I have studied the subject with well over 250 books, all of the Gazette, al of MRR and RMC, hard cover books, and the such.  Now internal equipment is different.  There was commercial manufacturing of machinery to include stamp mills, grinders, separation tables, different baths to grab certain ores, winfree tables, all the way down to bags or haul the ore or smelters who processed the ore into ingots to ship out.
What you have already accomplished is a set ahead of many others and there are many others you will be able to learn more from as  you progress through the modeling empires.
MMR#200 10 certificates

-----Original Message-----
From: sbake5570@...
Sent: Jan 23, 2021 3:42 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Old layout photos

Hi friends,
I hope this is the appropriate place to add a few photos (Not sure i attached them correctly)..and hope to see a few of your past and present projects as well! Like I said I stepped away from the hobby for a bit due to school and moving into a new house a few years ago. Here are the only surviving pics of my old layout. The structure was not completed but built from plans from I think a 1985 issue of the Gazette. It was part of a free lanced scene and out of the photo was a ravine with a wooden trestle that led to the landscape mellowing out and a town with a lot of switching and operational interests and un-landscaped mainline beyond. Looking at these, I see a lot I would do differently now...looking forward to planning a new layout!


Old layout photos

Scott Baker
 

Hi friends,
I hope this is the appropriate place to add a few photos (Not sure i attached them correctly)..and hope to see a few of your past and present projects as well! Like I said I stepped away from the hobby for a bit due to school and moving into a new house a few years ago. Here are the only surviving pics of my old layout. The structure was not completed but built from plans from I think a 1985 issue of the Gazette. It was part of a free lanced scene and out of the photo was a ravine with a wooden trestle that led to the landscape mellowing out and a town with a lot of switching and operational interests and un-landscaped mainline beyond. Looking at these, I see a lot I would do differently now...looking forward to planning a new layout!


Re: Corrugated siding

Mark Rosche
 

Hi,

To add to the list of tools for making model corrugated metal here is one from „down under“ the tool is available from N to G Scale:


I use the S Scale one quite often and use „Shisha“ foil as it is thicker than heavy duty aluminum foil with good results.

Regards,

Mark

Don‘t take life too seriously...no one gets out alive anyway....

On 23. Jan 2021, at 21:12, Eric Schrowang <eschrowang@...> wrote:


Hi All,
Here is a tool to make your own corrugated metal. It is in 1/72nd scale but I fiquire it is close enough to 1/87 for most folks. They also make one in 1/48th scale for any O scale modelers. Rick Green did a good video on this in Train Masters TV.

Eric


On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:50 PM Steve Hatch <hatch@...> wrote:
   I actually make my own as needed.   I make it out of the real thick aluminum foil
and form it on a "stick" I made with corrugations on it.
 The stick is the right size to make panels and I just rub the foil on the
surface of the stick and "voila" you have a corrugated panel.
I can se
<corsiding1.jpg>
nd a picture if you want it.


Re: Corrugated siding

Scott Baker
 

I appreciate all of the ideas you all have shared, looking forward to trying a few!
Scott Baker


Re: Corrugated siding

Eric Schrowang
 

Hi All,
Here is a tool to make your own corrugated metal. It is in 1/72nd scale but I fiquire it is close enough to 1/87 for most folks. They also make one in 1/48th scale for any O scale modelers. Rick Green did a good video on this in Train Masters TV.

Eric


On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:50 PM Steve Hatch <hatch@...> wrote:
   I actually make my own as needed.   I make it out of the real thick aluminum foil
and form it on a "stick" I made with corrugations on it.
 The stick is the right size to make panels and I just rub the foil on the
surface of the stick and "voila" you have a corrugated panel.
I can send a picture if you want it.


Re: Corrugated siding

Steve Hatch
 

   I actually make my own as needed.   I make it out of the real thick aluminum foil
and form it on a "stick" I made with corrugations on it.
 The stick is the right size to make panels and I just rub the foil on the
surface of the stick and "voila" you have a corrugated panel.
I can send a picture if you want it.


Web page at last.

Steve Hatch
 


Well at last I managed to put together enough pieces from my computers to
recreate some of the front page of my web site. It's been months now.
   Not all of the links and secondary pages work yet.   Some of them do but there
are broken links that I have to find or re-write orsomething before they will work.
BUUT it's finally starting to come back from the dead.
  Boy when they crash they crash.  Total loss.
-Stephen Hatch
  At least Railwayeng is being re-born.


Re: Corrugated siding

alsands@...
 

Have a look at this site http://www.brunelhobbies.com.au/ironmaker/ironmaker.htm, I use one of these, it is so simple to use, watch the video on the page.
Luke suggests using Caterers foil as it is stronger, you can buy a pack from them which will make a lot of iron.
One Iron Maker and one packof foil will cost about $au18.00 which is less than $us15.00 all prices shown in Australia include the 10% GST, whic will come of
when shipped to the US.

Alan Sandsrule

Perth

Western Australia


Re: Corrugated siding

jmcqiv@...
 

I used plastruct N scale corrugated siding sheets for HO scale roofing  It is extruded with the ribs on both sides of the sheet rather than on one side like the Evergreen. 
Jim McQueeny MMR


On Jan 22, 2021, at 12:01 PM, sbake5570@... wrote:

Thanks for the heads up on the Wild West Models. I have noticed that a lot of the manufacturers that are making the laser cut kits don't offer the details, roofing, siding separately. It is awesome Berkshire Valley is keeping the Anvil line going and would love to order their tram tower hardware sometime. I considered the engine house kit, but I enjoy scratch building off of plans, or old kits, even though I'm slow LOL. One of these days I will try a laser kit though, the folks designing these are doing an awesome (and beautiful) job and giving us a lot of unique prototypes unseen in the past!

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