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Re: I'm looking for a remotoring-regearing guru/mentor

Russ Norris
 

I would agree with Brian.  I work mostly with HOn3 brass engines made 30+ years ago, but have had success upgrading them to DCC -- along with a few pieces of Bachmann standard gauge, most of which is not really well made.  There are still sources out there if you are willing to ask around.  HOn3 has always been a niche segment of the hobby, requiring a lot of initiative and ingenuity.  But the rewards of watching one of my rebuilt, repainted 2-8-2's operating prototypically are worth the extra effort.

Russ

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:51 PM bassb04011 <fishingmaine@...> wrote:
Those lost sources have been replaced by absolutely fantastic ones like Harris Hobbies, Craig’s Colorado Narrow Gauge and others.
Stoner Creek in Germany still sells great remoter kits, Blackstone are very sought after and blow away anything that was made 20 years ago, tons of brass comes up on eBay. Southwest Narrow Gauge has a lot though a little pricey. 
Track is far improved, Tsunamis and DCC takes it to a whole new level.
HOn3 has never had it so good, except maybe a few years back when Blackstone was on shelves but that’s a factory issue they can hopefully work though. 
Just my 2 cents.
Brian 


On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Wayne <waynewtaylorii@...> wrote:


I feel your pain.  I, too, returned to the hobby about 2 years ago, after an absence of 20 years.  What I've found is that model railroading is a dying hobby and all of my good old sources are gone.  HOn3 has been hit the hardest.  And now there's also the division between DC and DCC.
My local hobby shop, Trains West, is long gone. Great HOn3 sources like Mitchells and Caboose Hobbies are gone.  Northwest Short Line's available motors are now mostly useless for HOn3'ers.
Loco Doc has shut down.
About the only source for HOn3 parts, locos and cars is eBay and most of those listings are misleading and definitely overpriced.
This having been said, the hobby still is alluring to many of us.  I've gotten a lot of good information from the Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette, especially the older issues.  Also, some of the HOn3 Annuals have been helpful to me, but not the newest issues.
Hang in there.  Part of the fun is the research.

--
Wayne Taylor


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/


Re: I'm looking for a remotoring-regearing guru/mentor

bassb04011
 

Those lost sources have been replaced by absolutely fantastic ones like Harris Hobbies, Craig’s Colorado Narrow Gauge and others.
Stoner Creek in Germany still sells great remoter kits, Blackstone are very sought after and blow away anything that was made 20 years ago, tons of brass comes up on eBay. Southwest Narrow Gauge has a lot though a little pricey. 
Track is far improved, Tsunamis and DCC takes it to a whole new level.
HOn3 has never had it so good, except maybe a few years back when Blackstone was on shelves but that’s a factory issue they can hopefully work though. 
Just my 2 cents.
Brian 


On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Wayne <waynewtaylorii@...> wrote:


I feel your pain.  I, too, returned to the hobby about 2 years ago, after an absence of 20 years.  What I've found is that model railroading is a dying hobby and all of my good old sources are gone.  HOn3 has been hit the hardest.  And now there's also the division between DC and DCC.
My local hobby shop, Trains West, is long gone. Great HOn3 sources like Mitchells and Caboose Hobbies are gone.  Northwest Short Line's available motors are now mostly useless for HOn3'ers.
Loco Doc has shut down.
About the only source for HOn3 parts, locos and cars is eBay and most of those listings are misleading and definitely overpriced.
This having been said, the hobby still is alluring to many of us.  I've gotten a lot of good information from the Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette, especially the older issues.  Also, some of the HOn3 Annuals have been helpful to me, but not the newest issues.
Hang in there.  Part of the fun is the research.

--
Wayne Taylor


Re: I'm looking for a remotoring-regearing guru/mentor

martin feldwick
 

sorry for bad editing

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 5:41 PM martin feldwick <trackpass@...> wrote:
Coincidence I was about to ask the same  .I bought a couple of FED's in the full knowledge they run like drunken pigs .Mainly as I have the Sloane decals to [aint them .I still want a PFM Mason bogies .I painted a couple for Victors a few decades a go or four  and still fancy one for myself .Not sure whether to rip out all geraring in teh FED's and fit NWSL gearboxes or try a new morot in the tender first .Any lost  souls on here done this ? Harrystoyshop on EBay UK have quite few variants of these if any one wants one.I bought a 2-6-0 and a 4-4-0 and plan to pain them as D.S.P .& .P.R.R.
thanks
Martin

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 5:20 PM <Climax@...> wrote:
The 7th direction, is that something like the 9th House?

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Clay
Sent: Dec 17, 2020 12:16 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] I'm looking for a remotoring-regearing guru/mentor

Hi folks,

I’m just returning to the hobby after several decades, and I’m looking for someone that can provide me with insight, suggestions and some handholding around picking and installing motors and drive mechanisms in a variety of HOn3 locos (FED Spartan 2-8-0, 4-4-0, 2-6-0) an old United 2-6-6t Mason Bogie). I’ve done a bunch of Google searches and they leave my head spinning. I really want to learn this aspect of the hobby, but it’s feeling a little overwhelming and some clear advice or a place to find a good step-by-step tutorial, would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.

TIA,

— burning rio


Roger Clay
The 7th Direction
Marin County, California
mobile & txt: 415-233-1290


Re: I'm looking for a remotoring-regearing guru/mentor

martin feldwick
 

Coincidence I was about to ask the same  .I bought a couple of FED's in the full knowledge they run like drunken pigs .Mainly as I have the Sloane decals to [aint them .I still want a PFM Mason bogies .I painted a couple for Victors a few decades a go or four  and still fancy one for myself .Not sure whether to rip out all geraring in teh FED's and fit NWSL gearboxes or try a new morot in the tender first .Any lost  souls on here done this ? Harrystoyshop on EBay UK have quite few variants of these if any one wants one.I bought a 2-6-0 and a 4-4-0 and plan to pain them as D.S.P .& .P.R.R.
thanks
Martin


On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 5:20 PM <Climax@...> wrote:
The 7th direction, is that something like the 9th House?

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Clay
Sent: Dec 17, 2020 12:16 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] I'm looking for a remotoring-regearing guru/mentor

Hi folks,

I’m just returning to the hobby after several decades, and I’m looking for someone that can provide me with insight, suggestions and some handholding around picking and installing motors and drive mechanisms in a variety of HOn3 locos (FED Spartan 2-8-0, 4-4-0, 2-6-0) an old United 2-6-6t Mason Bogie). I’ve done a bunch of Google searches and they leave my head spinning. I really want to learn this aspect of the hobby, but it’s feeling a little overwhelming and some clear advice or a place to find a good step-by-step tutorial, would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.

TIA,

— burning rio


Roger Clay
The 7th Direction
Marin County, California
mobile & txt: 415-233-1290


Re: I'm looking for a remotoring-regearing guru/mentor

Wayne
 

I feel your pain.  I, too, returned to the hobby about 2 years ago, after an absence of 20 years.  What I've found is that model railroading is a dying hobby and all of my good old sources are gone.  HOn3 has been hit the hardest.  And now there's also the division between DC and DCC.
My local hobby shop, Trains West, is long gone. Great HOn3 sources like Mitchells and Caboose Hobbies are gone.  Northwest Short Line's available motors are now mostly useless for HOn3'ers.
Loco Doc has shut down.
About the only source for HOn3 parts, locos and cars is eBay and most of those listings are misleading and definitely overpriced.
This having been said, the hobby still is alluring to many of us.  I've gotten a lot of good information from the Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette, especially the older issues.  Also, some of the HOn3 Annuals have been helpful to me, but not the newest issues.
Hang in there.  Part of the fun is the research.

--
Wayne Taylor


Re: I'm looking for a remotoring-regearing guru/mentor

Climax@...
 

The 7th direction, is that something like the 9th House?

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Clay
Sent: Dec 17, 2020 12:16 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] I'm looking for a remotoring-regearing guru/mentor

Hi folks,

I’m just returning to the hobby after several decades, and I’m looking for someone that can provide me with insight, suggestions and some handholding around picking and installing motors and drive mechanisms in a variety of HOn3 locos (FED Spartan 2-8-0, 4-4-0, 2-6-0) an old United 2-6-6t Mason Bogie). I’ve done a bunch of Google searches and they leave my head spinning. I really want to learn this aspect of the hobby, but it’s feeling a little overwhelming and some clear advice or a place to find a good step-by-step tutorial, would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.

TIA,

— burning rio


Roger Clay
The 7th Direction
Marin County, California
mobile & txt: 415-233-1290


I'm looking for a remotoring-regearing guru/mentor

Roger Clay
 

Hi folks,

I’m just returning to the hobby after several decades, and I’m looking for someone that can provide me with insight, suggestions and some handholding around picking and installing motors and drive mechanisms in a variety of HOn3 locos (FED Spartan 2-8-0, 4-4-0, 2-6-0) an old United 2-6-6t Mason Bogie). I’ve done a bunch of Google searches and they leave my head spinning. I really want to learn this aspect of the hobby, but it’s feeling a little overwhelming and some clear advice or a place to find a good step-by-step tutorial, would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.

TIA,

— burning rio


Roger Clay
The 7th Direction
Marin County, California
mobile & txt: 415-233-1290


Re: Blackstone K-27

Alec Herman
 

At the end it quit smoking. I think I kept doing it an extra day just to be sure.  You will also see an improvement on how well the motor starts spinning when you first apply power. 


Re: Blackstone K-27

Mike Conder
 

Don’t feel dumb, that was my exact question before I  read Mick’s note.  Many thanks for that info about loco numbers, I would not have thought of that.

Mike Conder

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:17 PM Jim Marlett <jmarlett@...> wrote:
I wish you could pull back an email. I answered a question that wasn’t asked. I feel dumb.

On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:15 PM, James Marlett <jmarlett@...> wrote:

The Blackstone site has models identified by release dates. The part number is on the box. Also, you can make a good guess by locomotive number. Here is a link to help get you to the right place. Click the year of interest.



Sold: kadee 709 between the rails HOn3 uncouplers

lloyd lehrer
 



lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 2:00 PM lloyd lehrer via groups.io <lloydlehrer=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
each pkg has two Narrow gauge uncoupler magnets for mounting between the rails. $2.50 per pkg plus shipping. paypal friends or checks. 10 pkgs available.

lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097

--
lloyd lehrer


--
lloyd lehrer


Re: Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

Randy Hees
 

Bodo, I likely have some of the 714 couplers on hand... 

Randy Hees

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 4:54 PM duncan <train3guy@...> wrote:

Bodo,

    Those are Kadee # 714 couplers.

                                                            Duncan Harvey

On 12/16/2020 5:27 PM, Bodo Rasler wrote:
Hello all,

I recently bought a bunch of PSC HOn3 D&RGW BRASS cars. 2nd hand but like new and without couplers!

I cannot attach the KADEE # 705 - the screws have to small a diameter and don't fit into the holes on the cars which have a significantly larger diameter. The pockets on the cars match the HO size Kadee couplers. But I don't like the looks of even the smaller #58 couplers as compared to HOn3 heads of Kadee or others.

The Kadee #705 cannot be attached with the thicker PSC screws either, since they would break the cylinders guiding the HOn3 couplers.

I have bought 2nd hand another PSC car which had couplers attached with the ORIGINAL PSC screws. The problem - I cannot identify the manufacturer of the couplers! I have attached 2 photos of those couplers.

Maybe someone can identify the manufacturer of those couplers or has an idea how to solve the problem.

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany


Re: Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

Wayne
 

The couplers in the photos are KaDee couplers. 
2 Solutions:
1) Drill a larger hole through the coupler so the right size screw fits.
2) Use the undersize screws and put a very small dab of 5 minute epoxy in the screw hole of the car.
I've used both methods and prefer the epoxy solution.

--
Wayne Taylor


Re: Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

duncan
 

Bodo,

    Those are Kadee # 714 couplers.

                                                            Duncan Harvey

On 12/16/2020 5:27 PM, Bodo Rasler wrote:
Hello all,

I recently bought a bunch of PSC HOn3 D&RGW BRASS cars. 2nd hand but like new and without couplers!

I cannot attach the KADEE # 705 - the screws have to small a diameter and don't fit into the holes on the cars which have a significantly larger diameter. The pockets on the cars match the HO size Kadee couplers. But I don't like the looks of even the smaller #58 couplers as compared to HOn3 heads of Kadee or others.

The Kadee #705 cannot be attached with the thicker PSC screws either, since they would break the cylinders guiding the HOn3 couplers.

I have bought 2nd hand another PSC car which had couplers attached with the ORIGINAL PSC screws. The problem - I cannot identify the manufacturer of the couplers! I have attached 2 photos of those couplers.

Maybe someone can identify the manufacturer of those couplers or has an idea how to solve the problem.

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany


Re: Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

Bill Lugg
 

Those look like the older Kadee 714 coupler.  Hard to say what the screw is holding it, maybe a 1.7 mm?  Are the 705s supplied with self-tapping or machine screws and are the car bodies at the correct height to mount the couplers?  My initial thought is to fill the holes and redrill for the smaller screws.  Note that if you already have narrow gauge equipment with the 714s, my understanding is the 714s and the 705s don't play well together.

HTH
Bill Lugg

On 12/16/20 5:27 PM, Bodo Rasler wrote:
Hello all,

I recently bought a bunch of PSC HOn3 D&RGW BRASS cars. 2nd hand but like new and without couplers!

I cannot attach the KADEE # 705 - the screws have to small a diameter and don't fit into the holes on the cars which have a significantly larger diameter. The pockets on the cars match the HO size Kadee couplers. But I don't like the looks of even the smaller #58 couplers as compared to HOn3 heads of Kadee or others.

The Kadee #705 cannot be attached with the thicker PSC screws either, since they would break the cylinders guiding the HOn3 couplers.

I have bought 2nd hand another PSC car which had couplers attached with the ORIGINAL PSC screws. The problem - I cannot identify the manufacturer of the couplers! I have attached 2 photos of those couplers.

Maybe someone can identify the manufacturer of those couplers or has an idea how to solve the problem.

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany


Re: Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

Ric Case
 

Kadee 714 

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Dec 16, 2020, at 7:27 PM, Bodo Rasler <raslerb@...> wrote:

Hello all,

I recently bought a bunch of PSC HOn3 D&RGW BRASS cars. 2nd hand but like new and without couplers!

I cannot attach the KADEE # 705 - the screws have to small a diameter and don't fit into the holes on the cars which have a significantly larger diameter. The pockets on the cars match the HO size Kadee couplers. But I don't like the looks of even the smaller #58 couplers as compared to HOn3 heads of Kadee or others.

The Kadee #705 cannot be attached with the thicker PSC screws either, since they would break the cylinders guiding the HOn3 couplers.

I have bought 2nd hand another PSC car which had couplers attached with the ORIGINAL PSC screws. The problem - I cannot identify the manufacturer of the couplers! I have attached 2 photos of those couplers.

Maybe someone can identify the manufacturer of those couplers or has an idea how to solve the problem.

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany
<HOn3 couplers on PSC.2.JPG>
<HOn3 couplers on PSC.1.JPG>


Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

Bodo Rasler
 

Hello all,

I recently bought a bunch of PSC HOn3 D&RGW BRASS cars. 2nd hand but like new and without couplers!

I cannot attach the KADEE # 705 - the screws have to small a diameter and don't fit into the holes on the cars which have a significantly larger diameter. The pockets on the cars match the HO size Kadee couplers. But I don't like the looks of even the smaller #58 couplers as compared to HOn3 heads of Kadee or others.

The Kadee #705 cannot be attached with the thicker PSC screws either, since they would break the cylinders guiding the HOn3 couplers.

I have bought 2nd hand another PSC car which had couplers attached with the ORIGINAL PSC screws. The problem - I cannot identify the manufacturer of the couplers! I have attached 2 photos of those couplers.

Maybe someone can identify the manufacturer of those couplers or has an idea how to solve the problem.

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany


fs: kadee 709 between the rails HOn3 uncouplers

lloyd lehrer
 

each pkg has two Narrow gauge uncoupler magnets for mounting between the rails. $2.50 per pkg plus shipping. paypal friends or checks. 10 pkgs available.

lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097

--
lloyd lehrer


Re: Blackstone K-27

Jim Marlett
 

I wish you could pull back an email. I answered a question that wasn’t asked. I feel dumb.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:15 PM, James Marlett <jmarlett@...> wrote:

The Blackstone site has models identified by release dates. The part number is on the box. Also, you can make a good guess by locomotive number. Here is a link to help get you to the right place. Click the year of interest.



Re: Blackstone K-27

Jim Marlett
 

The Blackstone site has models identified by release dates. The part number is on the box. Also, you can make a good guess by locomotive number. Here is a link to help get you to the right place. Click the year of interest.

http://blackstonemodels.com/loco/k27/k27previous.php

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:

Excellent info Mick, great to know how to tell the difference between the 1st & 2nd runs.

Mike Conder


Re: Grant Line 5235 - C&S Caboose #1005

Mark Lewis
 

Bodo,

Here is a 1:48 scale drawing of C&S Caboose #1006, from Carstens/White River Productions :Slim Gauge Cars" - Second Edition, that shows the underside detail, that may be helpful in placing your brake lever assembly.

Mark Lewis
Narrow gauge modeling in North Carolina



On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:01 PM Bodo Rasler <raslerb@...> wrote:

Thanks Bob,

 

unfortunately the photo is too small and blurred and the drawing does not really show what I am looking for.

 

Thanks anyway for trying to help!

Bodo

 

From: HOn3@groups.io [mailto:HOn3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Burgoyne via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 02:07
To: hon3@groups.io; HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Grant Line 5235 - C&S Caboose #1005

 

Bodo,

 

Found these links. Hope they help answer your needs.

 

 

 


Grandt Line No. 5234 HOn3 Colorado & Southern Caboose #1000 Built | #413...

You are bidding on Grandt Line HOn3 no. 5234 Colorado & Southern Caboose #1000. The model has been kitbashed int...

 

 

 


Crain's DSP&P Railroad Pages | Plans by Harry Brunk

Crain's Denver, South Park and Pacific Railroad - DSP&P RR Plans by Harry Brunk DSP&P Cars In C&S Era.

 

Bob Burgoyne

h0n3_Bob

 

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 5:52:05 PM CST, Bodo Rasler <raslerb@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello group,

maybe someone can be of help. The instructions for this model are very elaborate - many pages! However, not necessarily clear - not to talk about the drawings!

I am having some problems with the underbody detailing. Does anyone know a link to a movie? I found nothing when googling.

The Break lever assembly (7a) is supposed to attach to a part that is nowhere mentioned in the drawings or part list. Can it be that it has to be glues UNDER (10) Brake shoes / hangers assy?

Does anyone have photos of a finished model from below?

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany

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