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Re: Blackstone K-27

Mike Conder
 

Don’t feel dumb, that was my exact question before I  read Mick’s note.  Many thanks for that info about loco numbers, I would not have thought of that.

Mike Conder

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:17 PM Jim Marlett <jmarlett@...> wrote:
I wish you could pull back an email. I answered a question that wasn’t asked. I feel dumb.

On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:15 PM, James Marlett <jmarlett@...> wrote:

The Blackstone site has models identified by release dates. The part number is on the box. Also, you can make a good guess by locomotive number. Here is a link to help get you to the right place. Click the year of interest.



Sold: kadee 709 between the rails HOn3 uncouplers

lloyd lehrer
 



lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 2:00 PM lloyd lehrer via groups.io <lloydlehrer=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
each pkg has two Narrow gauge uncoupler magnets for mounting between the rails. $2.50 per pkg plus shipping. paypal friends or checks. 10 pkgs available.

lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097

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lloyd lehrer


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Re: Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

Randy Hees
 

Bodo, I likely have some of the 714 couplers on hand... 

Randy Hees

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 4:54 PM duncan <train3guy@...> wrote:

Bodo,

    Those are Kadee # 714 couplers.

                                                            Duncan Harvey

On 12/16/2020 5:27 PM, Bodo Rasler wrote:
Hello all,

I recently bought a bunch of PSC HOn3 D&RGW BRASS cars. 2nd hand but like new and without couplers!

I cannot attach the KADEE # 705 - the screws have to small a diameter and don't fit into the holes on the cars which have a significantly larger diameter. The pockets on the cars match the HO size Kadee couplers. But I don't like the looks of even the smaller #58 couplers as compared to HOn3 heads of Kadee or others.

The Kadee #705 cannot be attached with the thicker PSC screws either, since they would break the cylinders guiding the HOn3 couplers.

I have bought 2nd hand another PSC car which had couplers attached with the ORIGINAL PSC screws. The problem - I cannot identify the manufacturer of the couplers! I have attached 2 photos of those couplers.

Maybe someone can identify the manufacturer of those couplers or has an idea how to solve the problem.

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany


Re: Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

Wayne
 

The couplers in the photos are KaDee couplers. 
2 Solutions:
1) Drill a larger hole through the coupler so the right size screw fits.
2) Use the undersize screws and put a very small dab of 5 minute epoxy in the screw hole of the car.
I've used both methods and prefer the epoxy solution.

--
Wayne Taylor


Re: Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

duncan
 

Bodo,

    Those are Kadee # 714 couplers.

                                                            Duncan Harvey

On 12/16/2020 5:27 PM, Bodo Rasler wrote:
Hello all,

I recently bought a bunch of PSC HOn3 D&RGW BRASS cars. 2nd hand but like new and without couplers!

I cannot attach the KADEE # 705 - the screws have to small a diameter and don't fit into the holes on the cars which have a significantly larger diameter. The pockets on the cars match the HO size Kadee couplers. But I don't like the looks of even the smaller #58 couplers as compared to HOn3 heads of Kadee or others.

The Kadee #705 cannot be attached with the thicker PSC screws either, since they would break the cylinders guiding the HOn3 couplers.

I have bought 2nd hand another PSC car which had couplers attached with the ORIGINAL PSC screws. The problem - I cannot identify the manufacturer of the couplers! I have attached 2 photos of those couplers.

Maybe someone can identify the manufacturer of those couplers or has an idea how to solve the problem.

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany


Re: Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

Bill Lugg
 

Those look like the older Kadee 714 coupler.  Hard to say what the screw is holding it, maybe a 1.7 mm?  Are the 705s supplied with self-tapping or machine screws and are the car bodies at the correct height to mount the couplers?  My initial thought is to fill the holes and redrill for the smaller screws.  Note that if you already have narrow gauge equipment with the 714s, my understanding is the 714s and the 705s don't play well together.

HTH
Bill Lugg

On 12/16/20 5:27 PM, Bodo Rasler wrote:
Hello all,

I recently bought a bunch of PSC HOn3 D&RGW BRASS cars. 2nd hand but like new and without couplers!

I cannot attach the KADEE # 705 - the screws have to small a diameter and don't fit into the holes on the cars which have a significantly larger diameter. The pockets on the cars match the HO size Kadee couplers. But I don't like the looks of even the smaller #58 couplers as compared to HOn3 heads of Kadee or others.

The Kadee #705 cannot be attached with the thicker PSC screws either, since they would break the cylinders guiding the HOn3 couplers.

I have bought 2nd hand another PSC car which had couplers attached with the ORIGINAL PSC screws. The problem - I cannot identify the manufacturer of the couplers! I have attached 2 photos of those couplers.

Maybe someone can identify the manufacturer of those couplers or has an idea how to solve the problem.

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany


Re: Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

Ric Case
 

Kadee 714 

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Dec 16, 2020, at 7:27 PM, Bodo Rasler <raslerb@...> wrote:

Hello all,

I recently bought a bunch of PSC HOn3 D&RGW BRASS cars. 2nd hand but like new and without couplers!

I cannot attach the KADEE # 705 - the screws have to small a diameter and don't fit into the holes on the cars which have a significantly larger diameter. The pockets on the cars match the HO size Kadee couplers. But I don't like the looks of even the smaller #58 couplers as compared to HOn3 heads of Kadee or others.

The Kadee #705 cannot be attached with the thicker PSC screws either, since they would break the cylinders guiding the HOn3 couplers.

I have bought 2nd hand another PSC car which had couplers attached with the ORIGINAL PSC screws. The problem - I cannot identify the manufacturer of the couplers! I have attached 2 photos of those couplers.

Maybe someone can identify the manufacturer of those couplers or has an idea how to solve the problem.

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany
<HOn3 couplers on PSC.2.JPG>
<HOn3 couplers on PSC.1.JPG>


Couplers for Precision Scale HOn3 BRASS

Bodo Rasler
 

Hello all,

I recently bought a bunch of PSC HOn3 D&RGW BRASS cars. 2nd hand but like new and without couplers!

I cannot attach the KADEE # 705 - the screws have to small a diameter and don't fit into the holes on the cars which have a significantly larger diameter. The pockets on the cars match the HO size Kadee couplers. But I don't like the looks of even the smaller #58 couplers as compared to HOn3 heads of Kadee or others.

The Kadee #705 cannot be attached with the thicker PSC screws either, since they would break the cylinders guiding the HOn3 couplers.

I have bought 2nd hand another PSC car which had couplers attached with the ORIGINAL PSC screws. The problem - I cannot identify the manufacturer of the couplers! I have attached 2 photos of those couplers.

Maybe someone can identify the manufacturer of those couplers or has an idea how to solve the problem.

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany


fs: kadee 709 between the rails HOn3 uncouplers

lloyd lehrer
 

each pkg has two Narrow gauge uncoupler magnets for mounting between the rails. $2.50 per pkg plus shipping. paypal friends or checks. 10 pkgs available.

lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097

--
lloyd lehrer


Re: Blackstone K-27

Jim Marlett
 

I wish you could pull back an email. I answered a question that wasn’t asked. I feel dumb.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:15 PM, James Marlett <jmarlett@...> wrote:

The Blackstone site has models identified by release dates. The part number is on the box. Also, you can make a good guess by locomotive number. Here is a link to help get you to the right place. Click the year of interest.



Re: Blackstone K-27

Jim Marlett
 

The Blackstone site has models identified by release dates. The part number is on the box. Also, you can make a good guess by locomotive number. Here is a link to help get you to the right place. Click the year of interest.

http://blackstonemodels.com/loco/k27/k27previous.php

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:

Excellent info Mick, great to know how to tell the difference between the 1st & 2nd runs.

Mike Conder


Re: Grant Line 5235 - C&S Caboose #1005

Mark Lewis
 

Bodo,

Here is a 1:48 scale drawing of C&S Caboose #1006, from Carstens/White River Productions :Slim Gauge Cars" - Second Edition, that shows the underside detail, that may be helpful in placing your brake lever assembly.

Mark Lewis
Narrow gauge modeling in North Carolina



On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:01 PM Bodo Rasler <raslerb@...> wrote:

Thanks Bob,

 

unfortunately the photo is too small and blurred and the drawing does not really show what I am looking for.

 

Thanks anyway for trying to help!

Bodo

 

From: HOn3@groups.io [mailto:HOn3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Burgoyne via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 02:07
To: hon3@groups.io; HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Grant Line 5235 - C&S Caboose #1005

 

Bodo,

 

Found these links. Hope they help answer your needs.

 

 

 


Grandt Line No. 5234 HOn3 Colorado & Southern Caboose #1000 Built | #413...

You are bidding on Grandt Line HOn3 no. 5234 Colorado & Southern Caboose #1000. The model has been kitbashed int...

 

 

 


Crain's DSP&P Railroad Pages | Plans by Harry Brunk

Crain's Denver, South Park and Pacific Railroad - DSP&P RR Plans by Harry Brunk DSP&P Cars In C&S Era.

 

Bob Burgoyne

h0n3_Bob

 

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 5:52:05 PM CST, Bodo Rasler <raslerb@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello group,

maybe someone can be of help. The instructions for this model are very elaborate - many pages! However, not necessarily clear - not to talk about the drawings!

I am having some problems with the underbody detailing. Does anyone know a link to a movie? I found nothing when googling.

The Break lever assembly (7a) is supposed to attach to a part that is nowhere mentioned in the drawings or part list. Can it be that it has to be glues UNDER (10) Brake shoes / hangers assy?

Does anyone have photos of a finished model from below?

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany


Re: Blackstone K-27

Mike Conder
 

Excellent info Mick, great to know how to tell the difference between the 1st & 2nd runs.

Mike Conder


Re: Grant Line 5235 - C&S Caboose #1005

Bodo Rasler
 

Thanks Bob,

 

unfortunately the photo is too small and blurred and the drawing does not really show what I am looking for.

 

Thanks anyway for trying to help!

Bodo

 

From: HOn3@groups.io [mailto:HOn3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Burgoyne via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 02:07
To: hon3@groups.io; HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Grant Line 5235 - C&S Caboose #1005

 

Bodo,

 

Found these links. Hope they help answer your needs.

 

 

 


Grandt Line No. 5234 HOn3 Colorado & Southern Caboose #1000 Built | #413...

You are bidding on Grandt Line HOn3 no. 5234 Colorado & Southern Caboose #1000. The model has been kitbashed int...

 

 

 


Crain's DSP&P Railroad Pages | Plans by Harry Brunk

Crain's Denver, South Park and Pacific Railroad - DSP&P RR Plans by Harry Brunk DSP&P Cars In C&S Era.

 

Bob Burgoyne

h0n3_Bob

 

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 5:52:05 PM CST, Bodo Rasler <raslerb@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello group,

maybe someone can be of help. The instructions for this model are very elaborate - many pages! However, not necessarily clear - not to talk about the drawings!

I am having some problems with the underbody detailing. Does anyone know a link to a movie? I found nothing when googling.

The Break lever assembly (7a) is supposed to attach to a part that is nowhere mentioned in the drawings or part list. Can it be that it has to be glues UNDER (10) Brake shoes / hangers assy?

Does anyone have photos of a finished model from below?

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany


Re: Blackstone K-27

Mark Kasprowicz
 

That is what I was thinking of as well. I was concernd about it over heating or seizing as I was going to let it run constantly for 24 hours, but your suggestion sems more sensible. Did it smoke everytime until you'd burnt off all the oil?

Mark K
Oxon England.


Re: Blackstone K-27

Alec Herman
 

My K-27 is from the first run. It had a problem motor. A few times I hooked up the motor to a DC throttle. But anytime the model sat still for a few days, it would go back to not workIng.  It got really annoying. So when I tore it apart to swap the decoder, I hooked the motor straight to a DC throttle again. But this time I left it hooked to the DC throttle for about week. I would turn the throttle up and let some lube cook off, then turn it off to rest and let the oil pool again. After a few hours, overnight, or whenever it was convenient during that week, I’d turn it back on for a minute or two and burn off the lube again. Now it runs great and I have not had to do it again, even if it sits for an extended period of time. 


Re: The verticle shaft shay

Mick Moignard
 

That looks just like the Katsumi-made Shay sold by Balboa and Westside and possibly others.  The drive in this one is just fine, via the engine crankshaft.  I’ve remotored and  added sound to somewhere around half a dozen of these things over the years,

Mick

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Re: Blackstone K-27

Jim Marlett
 

Will it leave the insulation on the wires in the motor windings?

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


On Dec 15, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Scott <repairman87@...> wrote:

Might try some Blue shower on the motor.  We used it to clean contacters and such as it is a non flammable degreaser that dries really quick and doesn't leave a residue.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005T7YBGS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_O0r2FbX70R9CX

Scott McDonald


Re: Grant Line 5235 - C&S Caboose #1005

Bob Burgoyne
 

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 5:52:05 PM CST, Bodo Rasler <raslerb@...> wrote:


Hello group,

maybe someone can be of help. The instructions for this model are very elaborate - many pages! However, not necessarily clear - not to talk about the drawings!

I am having some problems with the underbody detailing. Does anyone know a link to a movie? I found nothing when googling.

The Break lever assembly (7a) is supposed to attach to a part that is nowhere mentioned in the drawings or part list. Can it be that it has to be glues UNDER (10) Brake shoes / hangers assy?

Does anyone have photos of a finished model from below?

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany


Grant Line 5235 - C&S Caboose #1005

Bodo Rasler
 

Hello group,

maybe someone can be of help. The instructions for this model are very elaborate - many pages! However, not necessarily clear - not to talk about the drawings!

I am having some problems with the underbody detailing. Does anyone know a link to a movie? I found nothing when googling.

The Break lever assembly (7a) is supposed to attach to a part that is nowhere mentioned in the drawings or part list. Can it be that it has to be glues UNDER (10) Brake shoes / hangers assy?

Does anyone have photos of a finished model from below?

Thanks
Bodo Rasler
Berlin / Germany

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