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Re: looking for an HOn3 locomotive

Mark Lewis
 

Steve, 

I will agree with the above comments regarding what you should spend your money on. Blackstone, although expensive, are first class in all areas. 
The C19 models are solid performers as are the K27's (except for the first production run of K27's which had motor issues and replacement motors are currently unavailable from Blackstone.)

Mark Lewis 
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 12:50 PM martin feldwick <trackpass@...> wrote:
What ever you do dont buy an FED  ,Far Eastern Distributor  ,Spartan series 4-4-0 0r 2-6-0 until you have some brass  experience under your belt .Great little basic models and cheap but hard to get running  well  or even at all unless experienced .They can be tempting .I have just bought two but I am far into the addiction ..Stick to Blackstone at first as above advice
Martin

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 5:24 PM Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:
These days Ebay is best source, here's a search I just did:


LOTS available but not cheap.  I'd recommend the Blackstone C-19 here if you have DCC:


That price is good and this will probably be the best runner you'll find without tinkering.  I'm not sure I'd go much over that price but I haven't been watching the market.  There are a lot of good brass locos out there on Ebay, but if you're not experienced in tuning brass steam I'd steer clear of them at first.

There are other sources for brass that are reputable and who will test a brass loco before selling/sending, and that is VERY important for a first loco.  Others will probably be able to direct you to them, as I'm not in the loco market anymore (I have what I need for now).  Also, recognize that many, if not most, brass locos are NOT DCC-equiped.  That may or may not be an advantage.

Mike Conder

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:11 AM Steven Meyerhoff <sbmeyerhoff@...> wrote:
Hi All

First time posting and glad to be in this group now. I have just started my dual-gauge layout. HO-HOn3. I've got the wood for the layout put together with roadbed and track. I've got it all dcc wired up but I've run into a snag as there seems to be no HOn3 engines available anywhere. Can't really test anything that I've done on the HOn3 track lines.  I am on the lookout for a HOn3 engine. If someone knows of a place where I could find one, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Steve


Re: looking for an HOn3 locomotive

martin feldwick
 

What ever you do dont buy an FED  ,Far Eastern Distributor  ,Spartan series 4-4-0 0r 2-6-0 until you have some brass  experience under your belt .Great little basic models and cheap but hard to get running  well  or even at all unless experienced .They can be tempting .I have just bought two but I am far into the addiction ..Stick to Blackstone at first as above advice
Martin


On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 5:24 PM Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:
These days Ebay is best source, here's a search I just did:


LOTS available but not cheap.  I'd recommend the Blackstone C-19 here if you have DCC:


That price is good and this will probably be the best runner you'll find without tinkering.  I'm not sure I'd go much over that price but I haven't been watching the market.  There are a lot of good brass locos out there on Ebay, but if you're not experienced in tuning brass steam I'd steer clear of them at first.

There are other sources for brass that are reputable and who will test a brass loco before selling/sending, and that is VERY important for a first loco.  Others will probably be able to direct you to them, as I'm not in the loco market anymore (I have what I need for now).  Also, recognize that many, if not most, brass locos are NOT DCC-equiped.  That may or may not be an advantage.

Mike Conder

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:11 AM Steven Meyerhoff <sbmeyerhoff@...> wrote:
Hi All

First time posting and glad to be in this group now. I have just started my dual-gauge layout. HO-HOn3. I've got the wood for the layout put together with roadbed and track. I've got it all dcc wired up but I've run into a snag as there seems to be no HOn3 engines available anywhere. Can't really test anything that I've done on the HOn3 track lines.  I am on the lookout for a HOn3 engine. If someone knows of a place where I could find one, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Steve


Re: looking for an HOn3 locomotive

Wayne
 

eBay always has at around 20 HOn3 locomotives for sale at all times.

--
Wayne Taylor


Re: looking for an HOn3 locomotive

Mike Conder
 

These days Ebay is best source, here's a search I just did:


LOTS available but not cheap.  I'd recommend the Blackstone C-19 here if you have DCC:


That price is good and this will probably be the best runner you'll find without tinkering.  I'm not sure I'd go much over that price but I haven't been watching the market.  There are a lot of good brass locos out there on Ebay, but if you're not experienced in tuning brass steam I'd steer clear of them at first.

There are other sources for brass that are reputable and who will test a brass loco before selling/sending, and that is VERY important for a first loco.  Others will probably be able to direct you to them, as I'm not in the loco market anymore (I have what I need for now).  Also, recognize that many, if not most, brass locos are NOT DCC-equiped.  That may or may not be an advantage.

Mike Conder

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:11 AM Steven Meyerhoff <sbmeyerhoff@...> wrote:
Hi All

First time posting and glad to be in this group now. I have just started my dual-gauge layout. HO-HOn3. I've got the wood for the layout put together with roadbed and track. I've got it all dcc wired up but I've run into a snag as there seems to be no HOn3 engines available anywhere. Can't really test anything that I've done on the HOn3 track lines.  I am on the lookout for a HOn3 engine. If someone knows of a place where I could find one, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Steve


Re: looking for an HOn3 locomotive

Eric Schrowang
 

Steve, I was just on EBay and found multiple listings.

Eric

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 12:12 Steven Meyerhoff <sbmeyerhoff@...> wrote:
Hi All

First time posting and glad to be in this group now. I have just started my dual-gauge layout. HO-HOn3. I've got the wood for the layout put together with roadbed and track. I've got it all dcc wired up but I've run into a snag as there seems to be no HOn3 engines available anywhere. Can't really test anything that I've done on the HOn3 track lines.  I am on the lookout for a HOn3 engine. If someone knows of a place where I could find one, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Steve


looking for an HOn3 locomotive

 

Hi All

First time posting and glad to be in this group now. I have just started my dual-gauge layout. HO-HOn3. I've got the wood for the layout put together with roadbed and track. I've got it all dcc wired up but I've run into a snag as there seems to be no HOn3 engines available anywhere. Can't really test anything that I've done on the HOn3 track lines.  I am on the lookout for a HOn3 engine. If someone knows of a place where I could find one, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Steve


Re: 16 photos uploaded #photo-notice

Mark Lewis
 

Russ,

Thanks for posting those photos!
There are some amazing historical documentations in most of them.

Mark Lewis
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.


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Re: Backdrop construction

Mike Conder
 

Hey Don, can you get a picture of this?  I would love to see it (and your layout as well.)

Mike Conder

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 6:43 PM Don Bergman <DBRenegade@...> wrote:
I used 1/8" styrene for the backdrop in my peninsula and needed to paint both sides.  I wanted every 1/4" I could get for the scenery.    I needed a piece 12' x 2' for the backdrop.  I purchased 2- 4x8 pieces cut into4 pieces 8x2' then laminated 3 of them staggering the joint and had a 2x8' piece left over. (It has about all been used up.)   Don't recall how I treated the joint probably drywall joint compound but the joints can be noticed mostly on one side where it is mostly sky, not so much on the other side where it is mostly painted.   I suspended it from the ceiling, so it took 1/4" layout space.  I made provision in case it moved when walking above but it was not needed.   Very happy with the results.  I'd use it again. I wish I had used it on the outside wall where curving the corner would have been much easier than drywell!

Don Bergman


Re: Western Rails HOn3 trucks

Brian Kopp
 

If that Western Rails question was for me, then not yet. I should be able to look at them over the holiday. I was attempting surgery on some HOn3 PSC SP Thielsen sideframes to turn them into DRG style Thielsen trucks......sort of. I was curious if I could do it. One way or another I will finish that and get the Western Rails trucks going before New Years....

But maybe somebody else in the group has played with them already.
--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: One More LO&S

Climax@...
 

Which shay was that?
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: StephenHatch
Sent: Dec 13, 2020 8:09 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] One More LO&S

I had one of the little shays with vertical shaft and once. I worked it to smooth out most friction points  then it ran really well for years ,(20 and counting)


Re: Backdrop construction

Don Bergman
 

I used 1/8" styrene for the backdrop in my peninsula and needed to paint both sides.  I wanted every 1/4" I could get for the scenery.    I needed a piece 12' x 2' for the backdrop.  I purchased 2- 4x8 pieces cut into4 pieces 8x2' then laminated 3 of them staggering the joint and had a 2x8' piece left over. (It has about all been used up.)   Don't recall how I treated the joint probably drywall joint compound but the joints can be noticed mostly on one side where it is mostly sky, not so much on the other side where it is mostly painted.   I suspended it from the ceiling, so it took 1/4" layout space.  I made provision in case it moved when walking above but it was not needed.   Very happy with the results.  I'd use it again. I wish I had used it on the outside wall where curving the corner would have been much easier than drywell!

Don Bergman


Re: One More LO&S

StephenHatch
 

I had one of the little shays with vertical shaft and once. I worked it to smooth out most friction points  then it ran really well for years ,(20 and counting)


Re: Backdrop construction

Climax@...
 

Besides, with aluminum there is no way to get the small deviations or wrinkles out of it that occur while handling it.  Plastic will retain its shape.  How are you going to attach it to the uprights?  I suggest an 1x2 or something that is strong that you can cut a grove in for it to set in, then cut a similar one for the top rail.  You can either glue or screw the 1x2's to the uprights and slide the plastic in or set it in and cap it with the top piece.  ON corners, you can let it be free and held by the straight sections.  It will bend easily.  A railroad I built previously I used standard dry wall and then thinner dry wall that I presoak and form around a 24 inch diameter drum.  After it dried I and was able to take the curved pieces and pop them in and up against some 12" radius plywood tops and bottoms that I cut for it to be nailed to.  Some dry all mud and sanding and the corners were gone.

Dave



-Original Message----- 
From: Mike Conder
Sent: Dec 13, 2020 4:52 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Backdrop construction

Styrene is also not expensive in big sheets.  Our local plastics store has 4x8 0.040" sheets for $21.75

Mike  Conder 

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 2:41 PM lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:
Styrene does not crease and you have serious issues in the alum. With no room for error. The 050 sheets of 4x8 weld together perfectly with no other work needed before painting.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 1:33 PM Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:
I wasn't sure if that was still available.  I am really interested in trying that but may need 36"wide im some areas. 

Mike Conder

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 8:18 AM John Hutnick <johnhutnick@...> wrote:
We have not mentioned a popular backdrop material: aluminum trim coil stock.  Comes in white rolls at Home Depot, about $93 for 50ft x 24".  It bends to any radius.  If you want to order from various suppliers, you can even get blue.

--
lloyd lehrer


Re: Backdrop construction

Mike Conder
 

Styrene is also not expensive in big sheets.  Our local plastics store has 4x8 0.040" sheets for $21.75

Mike  Conder 

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 2:41 PM lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:
Styrene does not crease and you have serious issues in the alum. With no room for error. The 050 sheets of 4x8 weld together perfectly with no other work needed before painting.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 1:33 PM Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:
I wasn't sure if that was still available.  I am really interested in trying that but may need 36"wide im some areas. 

Mike Conder

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 8:18 AM John Hutnick <johnhutnick@...> wrote:
We have not mentioned a popular backdrop material: aluminum trim coil stock.  Comes in white rolls at Home Depot, about $93 for 50ft x 24".  It bends to any radius.  If you want to order from various suppliers, you can even get blue.

--
lloyd lehrer


Re: Backdrop construction

lloyd lehrer
 

Styrene does not crease and you have serious issues in the alum. With no room for error. The 050 sheets of 4x8 weld together perfectly with no other work needed before painting.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 1:33 PM Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:
I wasn't sure if that was still available.  I am really interested in trying that but may need 36"wide im some areas. 

Mike Conder

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 8:18 AM John Hutnick <johnhutnick@...> wrote:
We have not mentioned a popular backdrop material: aluminum trim coil stock.  Comes in white rolls at Home Depot, about $93 for 50ft x 24".  It bends to any radius.  If you want to order from various suppliers, you can even get blue.


--
lloyd lehrer


Re: Backdrop construction

Mike Conder
 

I wasn't sure if that was still available.  I am really interested in trying that but may need 36"wide im some areas. 

Mike Conder

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 8:18 AM John Hutnick <johnhutnick@...> wrote:
We have not mentioned a popular backdrop material: aluminum trim coil stock.  Comes in white rolls at Home Depot, about $93 for 50ft x 24".  It bends to any radius.  If you want to order from various suppliers, you can even get blue.


Re: Staying Busy

claneon30
 

Looking good Bob.

Chris Lane - Editor HOn3 Annual



On Dec 13, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Robert Bennett <ngbobme@...> wrote:

Good Morning All,

I am attaching a photo of my latest project, and hopefully article. This is a fairly accurate representation of the D&RGW tanks at Jack's Cabin and Villa Grove, CO. It is scratchbuilt from styrene and will eventually find, at least a sometime, home on the HOn3 diorama I am putting together. The lead-in to that project is in the latest HOn3 Annual.

Stay well and busy!

Bob Bennett <IMG_4753.JPG>


Re: Staying Busy

Craig Linn
 

Beautiful Bob. Excellent work. 

Craig

On Dec 13, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Robert Bennett <ngbobme@...> wrote:

Good Morning All,

I am attaching a photo of my latest project, and hopefully article. This is a fairly accurate representation of the D&RGW tanks at Jack's Cabin and Villa Grove, CO. It is scratchbuilt from styrene and will eventually find, at least a sometime, home on the HOn3 diorama I am putting together. The lead-in to that project is in the latest HOn3 Annual.

Stay well and busy!

Bob Bennett
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Staying Busy

Robert Bennett
 

Good Morning All,

I am attaching a photo of my latest project, and hopefully article. This is a fairly accurate representation of the D&RGW tanks at Jack's Cabin and Villa Grove, CO. It is scratchbuilt from styrene and will eventually find, at least a sometime, home on the HOn3 diorama I am putting together. The lead-in to that project is in the latest HOn3 Annual.

Stay well and busy!

Bob Bennett

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