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Re: Staying Busy

claneon30
 

Looking good Bob.

Chris Lane - Editor HOn3 Annual



On Dec 13, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Robert Bennett <ngbobme@...> wrote:

Good Morning All,

I am attaching a photo of my latest project, and hopefully article. This is a fairly accurate representation of the D&RGW tanks at Jack's Cabin and Villa Grove, CO. It is scratchbuilt from styrene and will eventually find, at least a sometime, home on the HOn3 diorama I am putting together. The lead-in to that project is in the latest HOn3 Annual.

Stay well and busy!

Bob Bennett <IMG_4753.JPG>


Re: Staying Busy

Craig Linn
 

Beautiful Bob. Excellent work. 

Craig

On Dec 13, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Robert Bennett <ngbobme@...> wrote:

Good Morning All,

I am attaching a photo of my latest project, and hopefully article. This is a fairly accurate representation of the D&RGW tanks at Jack's Cabin and Villa Grove, CO. It is scratchbuilt from styrene and will eventually find, at least a sometime, home on the HOn3 diorama I am putting together. The lead-in to that project is in the latest HOn3 Annual.

Stay well and busy!

Bob Bennett
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Staying Busy

Robert Bennett
 

Good Morning All,

I am attaching a photo of my latest project, and hopefully article. This is a fairly accurate representation of the D&RGW tanks at Jack's Cabin and Villa Grove, CO. It is scratchbuilt from styrene and will eventually find, at least a sometime, home on the HOn3 diorama I am putting together. The lead-in to that project is in the latest HOn3 Annual.

Stay well and busy!

Bob Bennett


Re: Western Rails HOn3 trucks

jhoff02@...
 

Have you been able to tell how they roll?jim


Re: Train camera

Mark Rosche
 

Hi Brian,

Jumping in on this topic, i would mount a small FPV camera on a 3v wireless 5.8 GhZ transmitter and as a receiver use a 5.8 GhZ video receiver connected to my smartphone to record. To power the transmitter you could use either batteries (2 AAA) or wire it to a DCC decoder making sure that you only receive max 3v on the camera module from the decoder.

Looks pretty straightforward from the FPV videos I have watched.

Regards,

Mark

Don‘t take life too seriously...no one gets out alive anyway....

On 13. Dec 2020, at 15:55, Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:

Steve,
I am just starting to ask the same question about these little cameras. It seems we are jumping in the middle of the river. We need to get smart about FPV cameras first (First Person View). They are put on these multi-blade copters and give the pilot a view. That hobby has married these cameras to virtual reality headsets for the superman perspective while flying. The videos are pretty amazing.

So far I have figured out I need an FPV camera and a separate FPV DVR for recording.  The DVR is a small square PCB and uses an SD card. Last week RunCam CS told me they don't sell a phone app controller interface but there are some youtube videos that suggest you can do that. I am still trying to understand the power interface and configuration part of these set ups. RunCams product documentation is severely lacking (they assume you are FPV savvy) but their latest cameras get good reviews. The generic FPV schematic I saw last night showed an FPV camera wired to an FPV DVR which was wired to a "flight controller module". I am wondering if we can replace the flight controller module with a DCC motor or light controller and battery but I need to get smarter first before I jump in. The good news is these cameras seem very reasonable......

Anybody got a good FPV beginner tutorial link??

--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: Train camera

Bruce
 

Russ Norris uses a Polaroid Cube video camera.  I believe his is the original, not the newer Cube II.  His is self-contained.  His videos are excellent.

With cinders in your eyes,
Bruce
419-602-3584 cell



On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 9:55 AM Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:
Steve,
I am just starting to ask the same question about these little cameras. It seems we are jumping in the middle of the river. We need to get smart about FPV cameras first (First Person View). They are put on these multi-blade copters and give the pilot a view. That hobby has married these cameras to virtual reality headsets for the superman perspective while flying. The videos are pretty amazing.

So far I have figured out I need an FPV camera and a separate FPV DVR for recording.  The DVR is a small square PCB and uses an SD card. Last week RunCam CS told me they don't sell a phone app controller interface but there are some youtube videos that suggest you can do that. I am still trying to understand the power interface and configuration part of these set ups. RunCams product documentation is severely lacking (they assume you are FPV savvy) but their latest cameras get good reviews. The generic FPV schematic I saw last night showed an FPV camera wired to an FPV DVR which was wired to a "flight controller module". I am wondering if we can replace the flight controller module with a DCC motor or light controller and battery but I need to get smarter first before I jump in. The good news is these cameras seem very reasonable......

Anybody got a good FPV beginner tutorial link??

--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: Train camera

Brian Kopp
 

Steve,
I am just starting to ask the same question about these little cameras. It seems we are jumping in the middle of the river. We need to get smart about FPV cameras first (First Person View). They are put on these multi-blade copters and give the pilot a view. That hobby has married these cameras to virtual reality headsets for the superman perspective while flying. The videos are pretty amazing.

So far I have figured out I need an FPV camera and a separate FPV DVR for recording.  The DVR is a small square PCB and uses an SD card. Last week RunCam CS told me they don't sell a phone app controller interface but there are some youtube videos that suggest you can do that. I am still trying to understand the power interface and configuration part of these set ups. RunCams product documentation is severely lacking (they assume you are FPV savvy) but their latest cameras get good reviews. The generic FPV schematic I saw last night showed an FPV camera wired to an FPV DVR which was wired to a "flight controller module". I am wondering if we can replace the flight controller module with a DCC motor or light controller and battery but I need to get smarter first before I jump in. The good news is these cameras seem very reasonable......

Anybody got a good FPV beginner tutorial link??

--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: Train camera

Mike Conder
 

No clue.  Ask them.

Note that I am NOT making a recommendation as I don't have one and there's a dearth of info about them on their website.  Caveat emptor!

Mike Conder


On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 2:23 PM Steven Haworth <haworth7@...> wrote:
So - how do you connect and use the Racer Nano?  It looks cool, great size, and I see it can handle 5-36v, which I'd guess you could feed from DCC in the rails?  But what about the video signal - where's it go for recording?

- Steve Haworth
RGS history - http://www.rgsrr.com/
Blog - http://rgsrr.blogspot.com/               FB - https://www.facebook.com/stevesrgs/


On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 5:01 PM Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:14 PM ftgcss <ftgc@...> wrote:
Mike,

Where did you find the dimension data for the Run Cam 2?  I didn't see it on the web site.

Thanks,
Scott


Re: Train camera

Steven Haworth
 

So - how do you connect and use the Racer Nano?  It looks cool, great size, and I see it can handle 5-36v, which I'd guess you could feed from DCC in the rails?  But what about the video signal - where's it go for recording?

- Steve Haworth
RGS history - http://www.rgsrr.com/
Blog - http://rgsrr.blogspot.com/               FB - https://www.facebook.com/stevesrgs/


On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 5:01 PM Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:14 PM ftgcss <ftgc@...> wrote:
Mike,

Where did you find the dimension data for the Run Cam 2?  I didn't see it on the web site.

Thanks,
Scott


Re: 2020 Annual

Bodo Rasler
 

Mine will hopefully arrive soon.

 

Bodo Rasler

 

From: HOn3@groups.io [mailto:HOn3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Miller via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 17:32
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] 2020 Annual

 

I got my copy of the HOn3 annual today Saturday Dec 12,  It sat for a week at Pitney Bowes in Odenton MD having been mailed Dec 2nd. Not the fault of anyone at White River Productions.  Hello Rick Rhode. Have not heard or seen anyone from the hobby shop in years.

 

 Bill Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Rhode via groups.io <rvrhode@...>
To: hon3@groups.io <hon3@groups.io>; HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [HOn3] 2020 Annual

Haven't seen mine yet here in Bunn, NC, although I got a notice that it is on its way.  Also, a shout out to Bill Miller and any other alum of Doug's Hobby Shop!

                                     Rick Rhode

 

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 10:44:49 AM EST, Ted Wilton <twilton@...> wrote:

 

 

Mine arrived in the Reno, Nevada area on December 8, and it was very well packaged! Nice job on the content Chris! Some excellent photography of outstanding modeling of mine buildings!

Ted Wilton
Spanish Springs, Nevada


Re: 2020 Annual

Bill Miller
 

I got my copy of the HOn3 annual today Saturday Dec 12,  It sat for a week at Pitney Bowes in Odenton MD having been mailed Dec 2nd. Not the fault of anyone at White River Productions.  Hello Rick Rhode. Have not heard or seen anyone from the hobby shop in years.

 Bill Miller


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Rhode via groups.io <rvrhode@...>
To: hon3@groups.io <hon3@groups.io>; HOn3@groups.io <HOn3@groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [HOn3] 2020 Annual

Haven't seen mine yet here in Bunn, NC, although I got a notice that it is on its way.  Also, a shout out to Bill Miller and any other alum of Doug's Hobby Shop!
                                     Rick Rhode

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 10:44:49 AM EST, Ted Wilton <twilton@...> wrote:


Mine arrived in the Reno, Nevada area on December 8, and it was very well packaged! Nice job on the content Chris! Some excellent photography of outstanding modeling of mine buildings!

Ted Wilton
Spanish Springs, Nevada


Re: Backdrop construction

tonyk537
 

That Nn3 layout was incredible Paul !


Re: Train camera

Mike Conder
 

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:14 PM ftgcss <ftgc@...> wrote:
Mike,

Where did you find the dimension data for the Run Cam 2?  I didn't see it on the web site.

Thanks,
Scott


Re: Train camera

ftgcss
 

Mike,

Where did you find the dimension data for the Run Cam 2?  I didn't see it on the web site.

Thanks,
Scott


Re: Backdrop construction

Bill Lugg
 

Jim,
I initially discounted this idea since there is just a 2" separation between the nearest track to be hidden and the yard track in front of it and the hidden track is nearly 14" above the yard track. Also, the view behind the yard needs to be the view of a reasonable sized town on the edge of a fairly large rail yard...

But, on further thought, you may be on to something... I could produce a bunch of building flats to populate my scene and fasten them to a plain sky backdrop that blocks the sight of the hidden tracks, saving what appears would be a fortune in the cost of a photorealistic backdrop.  I might even be able to 3D print these building flats as they wouldn't need to be finely detailed beyond a decent paint job at 2 feet from the viewer and behind a field of freight and passenger cars.  The wall is already painted sky blue so maybe adding some clouds to that to blend and I may be in business.

Thanks for the idea.  I'll have to pursue it further.

Bill

On 12/11/20 11:24 AM, Jim Marlett wrote:
So, if the issue is removing for access, it seems as though the access will be from the front. If so, why not put a conventional backdrop all the way to the back and put removable sections of mid ground features between the visible track and the permanent backdrop. For instance, if the middle ground is rolling hills, they could come up high enough to hide the trains behind them, but low enough to allow the rear background/sky and distant hills to be seen. This layer could be built as manageable pieces with the tops following the tops of the hills. You could bring the hillside ends below the horizon of the three dimensional scenery and overlap them with the next set of hills. I plan to do something similar with the mountain tops of my railroad. It wouldn’t have to be hills. It could be city buildings or mountains or even flat fields that rose up in the back. It would allow the “true” backdrop to be conventional while still providing access when you need it.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


On Dec 10, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Bill Lugg <luggw1@risebroadband.net> wrote:

Lots of good ideas. It certainly wouldn't be portable. I'm a one man show so it would need to be fairly short sections I could lift out in the event of a problem behind the backdrop. It's all just straight track, but Murphy is alive and well, so I know something will happen at some point. I've got an inexpensive security camera system set up to watch trains pass behind the "curtain".

I've just got to figure out how to mesh them together so they stay in line with one another and so the whole thing doesn't come crashing down if I take one out.

Mike, can you tell me where you get the styrene from? I guess you'd just cut it with a sharp knife and loooong straight edge, right?

Paul, likewise how do you cut the material you use?

Thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it.

Bill Lugg





Re: Backdrop construction

rick@...
 

I dunno. I smell trouble. If you have a derail or other mishap back there, you need to remove a backdrop and then reach over whatever is in front, hoping you don't crush something. The yard is just storage then, as making up trains seems like a royal pain.

Can you drop that yard tracks down, move the front stuff on top of them, and get to the yard from underneath?

Rick


Backdrop photos

Ray
 

These are really great backdrops

Sent from Xfinity Connect Application

--
Ray in Colorado


Scratch built styrene building material

Dusty
 

My Cricut is a cutting monster. Cuts parts faster than I can assemble them. Any opinions on whether to use .020 or .040 for walls. The .040 walls with windows and doors require SLIGHTLY more effort to open up. Not the deciding factor, for sure. The .020 requires more reinforcing. I have been using .125 x .125 for strength. I'm looking for pluses and minuses that I am probably missing. That whole seeing the forest for the trees thing. These are layout buildings not Smithsonian exhibits but I'm trying to do them reasonable justice.

Help. Thanks for any thoughts.

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707


Re: Backdrop construction

Jim Marlett
 

So, if the issue is removing for access, it seems as though the access will be from the front. If so, why not put a conventional backdrop all the way to the back and put removable sections of mid ground features between the visible track and the permanent backdrop. For instance, if the middle ground is rolling hills, they could come up high enough to hide the trains behind them, but low enough to allow the rear background/sky and distant hills to be seen. This layer could be built as manageable pieces with the tops following the tops of the hills. You could bring the hillside ends below the horizon of the three dimensional scenery and overlap them with the next set of hills. I plan to do something similar with the mountain tops of my railroad. It wouldn’t have to be hills. It could be city buildings or mountains or even flat fields that rose up in the back. It would allow the “true” backdrop to be conventional while still providing access when you need it.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/

On Dec 10, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Bill Lugg <luggw1@risebroadband.net> wrote:

Lots of good ideas. It certainly wouldn't be portable. I'm a one man show so it would need to be fairly short sections I could lift out in the event of a problem behind the backdrop. It's all just straight track, but Murphy is alive and well, so I know something will happen at some point. I've got an inexpensive security camera system set up to watch trains pass behind the "curtain".

I've just got to figure out how to mesh them together so they stay in line with one another and so the whole thing doesn't come crashing down if I take one out.

Mike, can you tell me where you get the styrene from? I guess you'd just cut it with a sharp knife and loooong straight edge, right?

Paul, likewise how do you cut the material you use?

Thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it.

Bill Lugg


Re: Backdrop construction

Paul Sturtz
 

I used poster board to hide the staging yard on my 2' x 7' portable Nn3 layout.  The blue sky was removable for transport; the mountains were permanently attached.
Paul
Paul 

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