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Re: Backdrop construction

Bill Lugg
 

Lots of good ideas.  It certainly wouldn't be portable.  I'm a one man show so it would need to be fairly short sections I could lift out in the event of a problem behind the backdrop.  It's all just straight track, but Murphy is alive and well, so I know something will happen at some point.  I've got an inexpensive security camera system set up to watch trains pass behind the "curtain".

I've just got to figure out how to mesh them together so they stay in line with one another and so the whole thing doesn't come crashing down if I take one out.

Mike, can you tell me where you get the styrene from?  I guess you'd just cut it with a sharp knife and loooong straight edge, right?

Paul, likewise how do you cut the material you use?

Thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it.

Bill Lugg

On 12/10/20 5:27 PM, Mike Conder wrote:
Removable or portable?  It depends a bit on how permanent it needs to be, as something that's moved weekly or for shows would be very different from something behind a layout that may only be moved when moving to a new house.  It also depends on how long it needs to be.

Personally I'm at the latter stage and am seriously considering the 0.040" to 0.060" styrene.  We can get that in 4x8 sheets here in the Denver area.  I've also heard good things about some sort of flooring product like linoleum that can be one long sheet.  Also I've heard of aluminum and/or galvanized being available in long sheets/rolls but those may be harder to cut etc.  All these would need to be mounted on a frame I think.

And just this week I heard of a thick artists' paper material that is some sort of sandwich (like foamcore but not sure it has the foam part) that takes paint extremely well (and probably glue for a backdrop photo) but I've forgotten the name.

Mike Conder

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 4:23 PM Bill Lugg <luggw1@risebroadband.net <mailto:luggw1@risebroadband.net>> wrote:

I'm getting close to needing to construct a removable backdrop on my
layout.  It will be in sections and be about 24" to 30" tall, hiding
track that runs behind a yard.  I'm considering either 1/8"
Masonite (or
whatever they call it these days) or luan.  I figure the lighter the
better and I'd like to form part of it into a curve so flexibility
is a
consideration too.  I've never used luan so don't know what it's like.

What do you that have handled both recommend?

Thanks
Bill Lugg






Re: Backdrop construction

Jim Marlett
 

I believe you are referring to FRP – fiberglass reinforced panels.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:26 PM, Paul Sturtz <apa_208@...> wrote:

I used a fiberglass? material from Lowes, sold in 4x8 sheets.  One side is pebbled and shiny (I think for bathroom use) the other side is plain and dull.  Easy to use, cost the same as Masonite but not affected by humidity or temperature.  I used it for the facia as well.  The photo shows early construction at a 90 degree corner and somewhat later after some scenery installed.
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Re: Backdrop construction

Mike Conder
 

Removable or portable?  It depends a bit on how permanent it needs to be, as something that's moved weekly or for shows would be very different from something behind a layout that may only be moved when moving to a new house.  It also depends on how long it needs to be.

Personally I'm at the latter stage and am seriously considering the 0.040" to 0.060" styrene.  We can get that in 4x8 sheets here in the Denver area.  I've also heard good things about some sort of flooring product like linoleum that can be one long sheet.  Also I've heard of aluminum and/or galvanized being available in long sheets/rolls but those may be harder to cut etc.  All these would need to be mounted on a frame I think.

And just this week I heard of a thick artists' paper material that is some sort of sandwich (like foamcore but not sure it has the foam part) that takes paint extremely well (and probably glue for a backdrop photo) but I've forgotten the name.

Mike Conder

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 4:23 PM Bill Lugg <luggw1@...> wrote:
I'm getting close to needing to construct a removable backdrop on my
layout.  It will be in sections and be about 24" to 30" tall, hiding
track that runs behind a yard.  I'm considering either 1/8" Masonite (or
whatever they call it these days) or luan.  I figure the lighter the
better and I'd like to form part of it into a curve so flexibility is a
consideration too.  I've never used luan so don't know what it's like.

What do you that have handled both recommend?

Thanks
Bill Lugg






Re: Backdrop construction

Paul Sturtz
 

I used a fiberglass? material from Lowes, sold in 4x8 sheets.  One side is pebbled and shiny (I think for bathroom use) the other side is plain and dull.  Easy to use, cost the same as Masonite but not affected by humidity or temperature.  I used it for the facia as well.  The photo shows early construction at a 90 degree corner and somewhat later after some scenery installed.


Re: 2020 Annual

Bodo Rasler
 

Great news!

-----Original Message-----
From: HOn3@groups.io [mailto:HOn3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Marlett
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 00:45
To: HOn3 Group
Subject: Re: [HOn3] 2020 Annual

Got mine today!

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


Re: Backdrop construction

Margie & Larry Galkowski
 

I just used some 1/4in luan to face some stair risers. 4x8 sheet not expensive & I don't see any issue with a 36in radius. When I build my new layout I will probably use that for backdrops.
Larry G.


Re: Backdrop construction

Ric Case
 

My take on luan is it a plywood product and even the thin grade will split when you try to bend it. I have used 1/8 inch Masonite un tempered you can wet lightly and it will bend nicely. Screw it in place let it dry and it will hold the shape when you have to remove it! 
Luan also is very grainy! 

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:28 PM, lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:


bill, have you considered 4x8 sheets of .050 styrene, it will stand on end and curve and takes paint.  Luan is  much lighter than both styrene and masonite ( the untempered is lighter than the tempered version), but not as flexible. It may still handle a curve depending on the radius.

lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:23 PM Bill Lugg <luggw1@...> wrote:
I'm getting close to needing to construct a removable backdrop on my
layout.  It will be in sections and be about 24" to 30" tall, hiding
track that runs behind a yard.  I'm considering either 1/8" Masonite (or
whatever they call it these days) or luan.  I figure the lighter the
better and I'd like to form part of it into a curve so flexibility is a
consideration too.  I've never used luan so don't know what it's like.

What do you that have handled both recommend?

Thanks
Bill Lugg






--
lloyd lehrer


Re: Backdrop construction

Russ Norris
 

Bill, I put in a backdrop from Backdrop Junction -- no longer in business -- and mounted it on sheets of Masonite (now called particle board).  The height was 19" and the length was 17 feet.  The board was easy tp work with and handle.  It was also flexible enough to curve.  I would use it again.

Russ

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 6:23 PM Bill Lugg <luggw1@...> wrote:
I'm getting close to needing to construct a removable backdrop on my
layout.  It will be in sections and be about 24" to 30" tall, hiding
track that runs behind a yard.  I'm considering either 1/8" Masonite (or
whatever they call it these days) or luan.  I figure the lighter the
better and I'd like to form part of it into a curve so flexibility is a
consideration too.  I've never used luan so don't know what it's like.

What do you that have handled both recommend?

Thanks
Bill Lugg






--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/


Re: 2020 Annual

Jim Marlett
 


Re: Backdrop construction

Bill Lugg
 

The radius would be something like 36".  Haven't considered styrene.  It's going behind a yard and I'm looking at commercial photo backdrops to cover it as I'm all thumbs when it comes to artwork.

Bill

On 12/10/20 4:28 PM, lloyd lehrer wrote:
bill, have you considered 4x8 sheets of .050 styrene, it will stand on end and curve and takes paint.  Luan is  much lighter than both styrene and masonite ( the untempered is lighter than the tempered version), but not as flexible. It may still handle a curve depending on the radius.

lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:23 PM Bill Lugg <luggw1@risebroadband.net <mailto:luggw1@risebroadband.net>> wrote:

I'm getting close to needing to construct a removable backdrop on my
layout.  It will be in sections and be about 24" to 30" tall, hiding
track that runs behind a yard.  I'm considering either 1/8"
Masonite (or
whatever they call it these days) or luan.  I figure the lighter the
better and I'd like to form part of it into a curve so flexibility
is a
consideration too.  I've never used luan so don't know what it's like.

What do you that have handled both recommend?

Thanks
Bill Lugg






--
lloyd lehrer


Re: Backdrop construction

lloyd lehrer
 

bill, have you considered 4x8 sheets of .050 styrene, it will stand on end and curve and takes paint.  Luan is  much lighter than both styrene and masonite ( the untempered is lighter than the tempered version), but not as flexible. It may still handle a curve depending on the radius.

lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:23 PM Bill Lugg <luggw1@...> wrote:
I'm getting close to needing to construct a removable backdrop on my
layout.  It will be in sections and be about 24" to 30" tall, hiding
track that runs behind a yard.  I'm considering either 1/8" Masonite (or
whatever they call it these days) or luan.  I figure the lighter the
better and I'd like to form part of it into a curve so flexibility is a
consideration too.  I've never used luan so don't know what it's like.

What do you that have handled both recommend?

Thanks
Bill Lugg






--
lloyd lehrer


Backdrop construction

Bill Lugg
 

I'm getting close to needing to construct a removable backdrop on my layout.  It will be in sections and be about 24" to 30" tall, hiding track that runs behind a yard.  I'm considering either 1/8" Masonite (or whatever they call it these days) or luan.  I figure the lighter the better and I'd like to form part of it into a curve so flexibility is a consideration too.  I've never used luan so don't know what it's like.

What do you that have handled both recommend?

Thanks
Bill Lugg


Re: 2020 Annual

Bill Miller
 

Mine has been in Maryland for the last 7 days and has not moved (DEC 3 )   Bill Miller


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...>
To: HOn3@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: [HOn3] 2020 Annual

Ok I am better now. The mail brought me my fix today...... =)

--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: 2020 Annual

Brian Kopp
 

Ok I am better now. The mail brought me my fix today...... =)

--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


2020 Annual - VERY interesting Info !!!!

Bodo Rasler
 

Can we use MY (THIS) mail as a     P L A C E M A R K E R    for the next 2.498 mails of the kind below? (or the number of copies printed) to avoid that we all be hammered by eMails which have no meaning whatsoever for this group !!??

 

Thanks

Bodo Rasler

 

From: HOn3@groups.io [mailto:HOn3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Bell via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:12
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] 2020 Annual

 

I got mine on Tuesday in Western North Carolina!!  Yay!!  Nice job all the way around.

 

Rob Bell

 

 

 

On Thursday, December 10, 2020, 02:26:33 AM EST, Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:

 

 

This is almost like the "where's my Gazette" stuf but they showed up at several places in the Denver area early this week.  Patience, grasshoppers!

 

Mike Conder

 

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 3:21 PM dhreinke <dreinke480@...> wrote:

I received mine in northeast IL yesterday.

 

Looks like another outstanding issue.

 

Doug Reinke

Roselle, IL

 

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 4:01 PM claneon30 <chrislaneon30@...> wrote:

The one guarantee I can make, is that I make no guarantees as to how, and when the USPS will get everyone their books. I know when they go out the door and beyond that is beyond me.

 

Their routing methodology is one of the great mysteries of our times.

 

Chris Lane - Editor HOn3 Annual

 

 



On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:

 

Over on the FansofHOn3annual group.io list Chris Lane indicated the new HOn3 Annual is in the mail. Anybody seen it yet? (I am standing by my mailbox in anticipation =)  )
--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL

 


Re: 2020 Annual

Mike Chamberlain
 

Mine came yesterday .....Mike


Re: 2020 Annual

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Don't start me up on Karma - my dogma was run over by one!

Mark K


Re: 2020 Annual

Brian Kopp
 

This is karma getting me. I think I was one of the ones doing the teasing last year about what was in the 2019 issue before everyone got it... Now I am waiting......

--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: 2020 Annual

Dale Buxton
 

Got mine Saturday.

Dale Buxton

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:25 AM Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:
Over on the FansofHOn3annual group.io list Chris Lane indicated the new HOn3 Annual is in the mail. Anybody seen it yet? (I am standing by my mailbox in anticipation =)  )
--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


Re: 2020 Annual

Russ Norris
 

Like "Where's Waldo".


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 2:26 AM Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...> wrote:
This is almost like the "where's my Gazette" stuf but they showed up at several places in the Denver area early this week.  Patience, grasshoppers!

Mike Conder

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 3:21 PM dhreinke <dreinke480@...> wrote:
I received mine in northeast IL yesterday.

Looks like another outstanding issue.

Doug Reinke
Roselle, IL


On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 4:01 PM claneon30 <chrislaneon30@...> wrote:
The one guarantee I can make, is that I make no guarantees as to how, and when the USPS will get everyone their books. I know when they go out the door and beyond that is beyond me.

Their routing methodology is one of the great mysteries of our times.

Chris Lane - Editor HOn3 Annual



On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:

Over on the FansofHOn3annual group.io list Chris Lane indicated the new HOn3 Annual is in the mail. Anybody seen it yet? (I am standing by my mailbox in anticipation =)  )
--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/

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