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Re: How To Paint Black Styrene Models

Rick Rhode <rvrhode@...>
 

Definitely use a grey primer.  I use either a light gray NON filling primer from Walmart or Tamiya light gray primer.

On Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 05:35:10 PM EDT, Towne Comee <prowordsmith@...> wrote:


Recommendation would have been to apply a couple of coats of thin primer first - before painting.  Using a neutral color (light grey or a muted white) will make a uniform surface and will enable the final paint to be all one shade.  It can vary when laid upon black and other sections are white.


Re: BLACKSTONE B370 106 - HOn3 - 3'7" Arch Bar Trucks

Bodo Rasler
 

Ric,

 

I would appreciate your reply. Not to bother the group with this subject any longer, please e-mail me directly:

raslerb@...

 

Thanks

Bodo

 

From: HOn3@groups.io [mailto:HOn3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bodo Rasler
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 19:25
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] BLACKSTONE B370 106 - HOn3 - 3'7" Arch Bar Trucks

 

Ric,

 

I am a bit lost now – which THREE do you have?

 

I need ONLY:

3' 7" Arch Bar Caboose Trucks

3-foot 7-inch arch bar caboose truck

 

P.N.

Description

Price

B370106

3' 7" Arch Bar Caboose Trucks, Pair, Caboose Red

$17.95

 

And if you have them, I would need 5 packs = 10 Trucks.

 

Let me know your price.

 

Thanks

Bodo

 

From: HOn3@groups.io [mailto:HOn3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ric Case
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 19:10
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] BLACKSTONE B370 106 - HOn3 - 3'7" Arch Bar Trucks

 

Bodo I actually have all three 

Ric Case 

EBT Modeler 

Hamilton Ohio 

1-513-375-7694

 


Re: BLACKSTONE B370 106 - HOn3 - 3'7" Arch Bar Trucks

Bodo Rasler
 

I am not sure we are talking about the same company!? Look what I got as a reply:

From: Teresa Precision Scale Co. [mailto:precisionscaleco@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 01:28
To: Bodo Rasler
Subject: Re: HOn3 - kits

 I am sorry.  Someone else responded to you at the beginning and I did not realize you were looking for only those HOn3 kits.

We have the catalogs because those are parts in our line but ones we cannot produce at this time as we are still learning the business. We cannot get rid of the catalog because we have other parts in there that we are able to still produce or have stock of. We are new to this, please have grace for us.

 Sorry for any inconvenience.

 Best regards.

PSC

 

From: HOn3@groups.io [mailto:HOn3@groups.io] On Behalf Of claneon30
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 05:15
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] BLACKSTONE B370 106 - HOn3 - 3'7" Arch Bar Trucks

 

I can confirm that the foundry is in full production. Before the shut down, they were running 6 days a week. I can also confirm, they have not yet figured out the kit production, but I must assume they are doing the plastic for parts as those brass casting are available. Lastly, PSC did not have a great deal of inventory to sell them, so unless it is a particularly slow moving part, I have to believe at this point, the new owners made it.

 

Chris Lane - Editor HOn3 Annual

 

 



On Oct 20, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Dale Buxton <dbtuathaddana@...> wrote:

 

Other than the fact that PSC is not producing the plastic kits. I don’t think anybody know for sure what is going on there. My spies tell that they have no idea if they have a foundry in operation. One of my spies thinks they are still just selling old stock. There are two parts I tried  ordering that have been out of stock since the old owners were in charge! 

 

Also, If they are not producing plastic kits, does that also mean they are not producing brass parts from lost plastic investments? 

 

I can’t get an answer to that question either. Though it has been since before the first of the year since I last tried. The only way I have found to contact them so far is via the Facebook page. That seemed to be sorta hit or mIs at the time.

 

Dale Buxton

 

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:49 Mick Moignard <mick@...> wrote:

I disagree with comment that the new owners of PSC don’t know what to do. I have had a number of orders fulfilled by them decently quickly, always with everything I asked for.  The only no I’ve had from them was whether the plastic HOn3 D&RGW freight car kits were being produced.   Brass parts, delivered.

 

Mick

________________________________

Mick Moignard

m: +44 7774 652504

Skype: mickmoignard

 

The week may start M,T but it always ends WTF.

 

 

 

 


Re: How To Paint Black Styrene Models

Towne Comee
 

Recommendation would have been to apply a couple of coats of thin primer first - before painting.  Using a neutral color (light grey or a muted white) will make a uniform surface and will enable the final paint to be all one shade.  It can vary when laid upon black and other sections are white.


Re: How To Paint Black Styrene Models

Mike Conder
 

Yes prime with gray first. Been there, done that. 

Mike Conder

On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:45 PM Wayne <waynewtaylorii@...> wrote:
Forgot the photo.


Re: How To Paint Black Styrene Models

Wayne
 

Forgot the photo.


How To Paint Black Styrene Models

Wayne
 
Edited

Can't find anything online for this.  Just completed 2 very old HOn3 E&B Valley RR Co models:  C&S Baggage Car and C&S Business Car B-3.  They are both black styrene so I decided to work on the more common one first, in case I have to re-start from scratch.  I'm trying to paint the Baggage car Pullman Green.  There was a missing part that I replaced with white scribbed styrene and that part is starting to look great after 4 airbrush coats of "Modelers Decals & Paint" acrylic Pullman Green, but the black plastic still looks black.  Should I have primed the plastic with grey primer first?  What experience do you folks have with this?


Re: Staining ties

tonyk537
 

Boring modeling = the lack of variety.  I agree Dale!  


Re: Staining ties

Dale Buxton
 

I live in Aurora.

I think you will really like Fiebings. I get mine from the Tandy Leather Factory at I-70 and Forrest St. in Denver. It's about 2 city blocks east  of the Safeway Warehouse. I use a mix of Black and Medium Brown. I never keep track of the mix ratio because I want to always have a variation in different structure's degree of wood age weathering. Same goes for my ties. I will mix three batches of dye and stain three batches of ties. When they are dry, I mix them all together.

Nature hates same-ness!

Dale Buxton

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 9:13 PM Bill Lugg <luggw1@...> wrote:
What part of Colorado?  I live out on the eastern plains.

I've got some Fiebings coming from Amazon, so when it gets here I'll
give it a try with the DNA.

Thanks
Bill Lugg


On 10/20/20 6:45 PM, Dale Buxton wrote:
> All I have ever used is denatured alcohol and Fiebing Leather dye.
> Never had any problems with it. I feel this mixture gives superior
> penetration and prevents warping in longer lengths of strip wood. Like
> higher percentages of water to alcohol might. I live in Colorado so
> I’ve never had a problem with the alcohol drawing water out of the
> air. It’s just too dry here! Lol
>
> Dale Buxton
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 18:10 lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...
> <mailto:lloydlehrer@...>> wrote:
>
>     Bill, wear nitrile gloves.  too much thru the skin absorption is
>     not good.
>     lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097
>
>
>     On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 5:04 PM Bill Lugg
>     <luggw1@... <mailto:luggw1@...>> wrote:
>
>         I pulled the ties out of the solution after a day and a half
>         of soaking
>         and they looked like very lightly weathered wood.
>
>         So, I think you all are right that my solution has lost some
>         of the
>         alcohol carrier after sitting for so long.  I was going to try
>         some 91%
>         and shoe dye to see how it works, but discovered alcohol is
>         rarer that
>         hen's teeth right now - apparently there's some kid of a
>         pandemic going
>         on.  ;o)  I have a gallon of denatured alcohol in the shop;
>         will there
>         be any detrimental effects from using that instead?
>
>         Thanks for the help
>         Bill Lugg
>
>
>         On 10/19/20 10:43 AM, Jim Marlett wrote:
>         > I don’t have a clue what is going on, but I use 91%
>         isopropyl alcohol and shoe leather dye. I just recently
>         stained some ties I’ve had for over 40 years and they stained
>         just fine. I also stained some old Kappler ties that may have
>         been 20 or 30 years old (I can’t remember when I got them) and
>         they stained fine as well. If you used 70% alcohol, it is not
>         inconceivable that at least part of the alcohol has evaporated
>         out and water isn’t as good a carrier as alcohol, IMHO. I
>         think I would mix up a whole new batch of stain. The materials
>         are cheap.
>         >
>         > Jim Marlett
>         > http://flatheaddrag.com/
>         > http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/
>         >
>         >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     --
>     lloyd lehrer
>
>






Re: Staining ties

John Hutnick
 

Ace Hardware in Somerville NJ sold me a gallon of 99% isopropyl for $30.


Re: Staining ties

Jim Marlett
 

I think any kind of alcohol would work. I say just try it. I don’t know why I haven’t!

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/

On Oct 20, 2020, at 7:04 PM, Bill Lugg <luggw1@risebroadband.net> wrote:

I pulled the ties out of the solution after a day and a half of soaking and they looked like very lightly weathered wood.

So, I think you all are right that my solution has lost some of the alcohol carrier after sitting for so long. I was going to try some 91% and shoe dye to see how it works, but discovered alcohol is rarer that hen's teeth right now - apparently there's some kid of a pandemic going on. ;o) I have a gallon of denatured alcohol in the shop; will there be any detrimental effects from using that instead?

Thanks for the help
Bill Lugg


On 10/19/20 10:43 AM, Jim Marlett wrote:
I don’t have a clue what is going on, but I use 91% isopropyl alcohol and shoe leather dye. I just recently stained some ties I’ve had for over 40 years and they stained just fine. I also stained some old Kappler ties that may have been 20 or 30 years old (I can’t remember when I got them) and they stained fine as well. If you used 70% alcohol, it is not inconceivable that at least part of the alcohol has evaporated out and water isn’t as good a carrier as alcohol, IMHO. I think I would mix up a whole new batch of stain. The materials are cheap.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/





Re: BLACKSTONE B370 106 - HOn3 - 3'7" Arch Bar Trucks

claneon30
 

I can confirm that the foundry is in full production. Before the shut down, they were running 6 days a week. I can also confirm, they have not yet figured out the kit production, but I must assume they are doing the plastic for parts as those brass casting are available. Lastly, PSC did not have a great deal of inventory to sell them, so unless it is a particularly slow moving part, I have to believe at this point, the new owners made it.

Chris Lane - Editor HOn3 Annual



On Oct 20, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Dale Buxton <dbtuathaddana@...> wrote:

Other than the fact that PSC is not producing the plastic kits. I don’t think anybody know for sure what is going on there. My spies tell that they have no idea if they have a foundry in operation. One of my spies thinks they are still just selling old stock. There are two parts I tried  ordering that have been out of stock since the old owners were in charge! 

Also, If they are not producing plastic kits, does that also mean they are not producing brass parts from lost plastic investments? 

I can’t get an answer to that question either. Though it has been since before the first of the year since I last tried. The only way I have found to contact them so far is via the Facebook page. That seemed to be sorta hit or mIs at the time.

Dale Buxton

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:49 Mick Moignard <mick@...> wrote:
I disagree with comment that the new owners of PSC don’t know what to do. I have had a number of orders fulfilled by them decently quickly, always with everything I asked for.  The only no I’ve had from them was whether the plastic HOn3 D&RGW freight car kits were being produced.   Brass parts, delivered.

Mick

________________________________
Mick Moignard
m: +44 7774 652504
Skype: mickmoignard

The week may start M,T but it always ends WTF.





Re: Staining ties

Bill Lugg
 

What part of Colorado?  I live out on the eastern plains.

I've got some Fiebings coming from Amazon, so when it gets here I'll give it a try with the DNA.

Thanks
Bill Lugg

On 10/20/20 6:45 PM, Dale Buxton wrote:
All I have ever used is denatured alcohol and Fiebing Leather dye. Never had any problems with it. I feel this mixture gives superior penetration and prevents warping in longer lengths of strip wood. Like higher percentages of water to alcohol might. I live in Colorado so I’ve never had a problem with the alcohol drawing water out of the air. It’s just too dry here! Lol

Dale Buxton

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 18:10 lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@gmail.com <mailto:lloydlehrer@gmail.com>> wrote:

Bill, wear nitrile gloves.  too much thru the skin absorption is
not good.
lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 5:04 PM Bill Lugg
<luggw1@risebroadband.net <mailto:luggw1@risebroadband.net>> wrote:

I pulled the ties out of the solution after a day and a half
of soaking
and they looked like very lightly weathered wood.

So, I think you all are right that my solution has lost some
of the
alcohol carrier after sitting for so long.  I was going to try
some 91%
and shoe dye to see how it works, but discovered alcohol is
rarer that
hen's teeth right now - apparently there's some kid of a
pandemic going
on.  ;o)  I have a gallon of denatured alcohol in the shop;
will there
be any detrimental effects from using that instead?

Thanks for the help
Bill Lugg


On 10/19/20 10:43 AM, Jim Marlett wrote:
> I don’t have a clue what is going on, but I use 91%
isopropyl alcohol and shoe leather dye. I just recently
stained some ties I’ve had for over 40 years and they stained
just fine. I also stained some old Kappler ties that may have
been 20 or 30 years old (I can’t remember when I got them) and
they stained fine as well. If you used 70% alcohol, it is not
inconceivable that at least part of the alcohol has evaporated
out and water isn’t as good a carrier as alcohol, IMHO. I
think I would mix up a whole new batch of stain. The materials
are cheap.
>
> Jim Marlett
> http://flatheaddrag.com/
> http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/
>
>






--
lloyd lehrer


Re: BLACKSTONE B370 106 - HOn3 - 3'7" Arch Bar Trucks

wtmiv
 

I have made several parts orders from the new PSC owners and have been quite satisfied each time. They usually have everything in stock or will produce it quickly. They will ship quickly too. No complaints from me.
Bill M.


On Oct 20, 2020, at 7:37 PM, bassb04011 <fishingmaine@...> wrote:

 New PSC has been great for parts for my orders. Took about a week and a half to get my order.
Brian 


On Oct 20, 2020, at 1:50 PM, John Stutz <john.stutz@...> wrote:


Bodo

I have several of the Western Rails trucks on hand, but not the 3'7" D&RGW version.  These trucks do need a bit of cleanup.  At present, nothing produced by 3-D printing techniques, at least at reasonable prices, can match the surface quality of injection molding in polished metal dies.  But Western Rails does a much better job, on their in house products, than I have often had from Shapeways.  Notably so with their car bodies.  And in some respects, the detailing of these trucks go beyond what could be economically produced by injection molding. 

Their 6' wheelbase BRB&L class 70 passenger truck is a particularly welcome supplement to the common 5' wheelbase passenger truck, appropriate for modeling Pullman narrow gauge and WP&Y cars.

John Stutz
On October 20, 2020 7:25 AM Bodo Rasler <raslerb@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark, 

they look a bit ‚rough‘ – have you had them in your hands? 

Bodo


Re: BLACKSTONE B370 106 - HOn3 - 3'7" Arch Bar Trucks

bassb04011
 

New PSC has been great for parts for my orders. Took about a week and a half to get my order.
Brian 


On Oct 20, 2020, at 1:50 PM, John Stutz <john.stutz@...> wrote:


Bodo

I have several of the Western Rails trucks on hand, but not the 3'7" D&RGW version.  These trucks do need a bit of cleanup.  At present, nothing produced by 3-D printing techniques, at least at reasonable prices, can match the surface quality of injection molding in polished metal dies.  But Western Rails does a much better job, on their in house products, than I have often had from Shapeways.  Notably so with their car bodies.  And in some respects, the detailing of these trucks go beyond what could be economically produced by injection molding. 

Their 6' wheelbase BRB&L class 70 passenger truck is a particularly welcome supplement to the common 5' wheelbase passenger truck, appropriate for modeling Pullman narrow gauge and WP&Y cars.

John Stutz
On October 20, 2020 7:25 AM Bodo Rasler <raslerb@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark, 

they look a bit ‚rough‘ – have you had them in your hands? 

Bodo


Re: BLACKSTONE B370 106 - HOn3 - 3'7" Arch Bar Trucks

Dale Buxton
 

Other than the fact that PSC is not producing the plastic kits. I don’t think anybody know for sure what is going on there. My spies tell that they have no idea if they have a foundry in operation. One of my spies thinks they are still just selling old stock. There are two parts I tried  ordering that have been out of stock since the old owners were in charge! 

Also, If they are not producing plastic kits, does that also mean they are not producing brass parts from lost plastic investments? 

I can’t get an answer to that question either. Though it has been since before the first of the year since I last tried. The only way I have found to contact them so far is via the Facebook page. That seemed to be sorta hit or mIs at the time.

Dale Buxton

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:49 Mick Moignard <mick@...> wrote:
I disagree with comment that the new owners of PSC don’t know what to do. I have had a number of orders fulfilled by them decently quickly, always with everything I asked for.  The only no I’ve had from them was whether the plastic HOn3 D&RGW freight car kits were being produced.   Brass parts, delivered.

Mick

________________________________
Mick Moignard
m: +44 7774 652504
Skype: mickmoignard

The week may start M,T but it always ends WTF.


Re: Staining ties

Mike Conder
 

Me too, only DNA and Feibings USMC Black or brown.  Even 91% IPA has water which can warp wood, so I don’t use it. 

Be careful, though, to use it as a stain over paint.  Don’t overdo it as the DNA is also a great paint remover.  Guess how I know?

Mike Conder 

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 6:45 PM Dale Buxton <dbtuathaddana@...> wrote:
All I have ever used is denatured alcohol and Fiebing Leather dye. Never had any problems with it. I feel this mixture gives superior penetration and prevents warping in longer lengths of strip wood. Like higher percentages of water to alcohol might. I live in Colorado so I’ve never had a problem with the alcohol drawing water out of the air. It’s just too dry here! Lol

Dale Buxton

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 18:10 lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:
Bill, wear nitrile gloves.  too much thru the skin absorption is not good.
lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 5:04 PM Bill Lugg <luggw1@...> wrote:
I pulled the ties out of the solution after a day and a half of soaking
and they looked like very lightly weathered wood.

So, I think you all are right that my solution has lost some of the
alcohol carrier after sitting for so long.  I was going to try some 91%
and shoe dye to see how it works, but discovered alcohol is rarer that
hen's teeth right now - apparently there's some kid of a pandemic going
on.  ;o)  I have a gallon of denatured alcohol in the shop; will there
be any detrimental effects from using that instead?

Thanks for the help
Bill Lugg


On 10/19/20 10:43 AM, Jim Marlett wrote:
> I don’t have a clue what is going on, but I use 91% isopropyl alcohol and shoe leather dye. I just recently stained some ties I’ve had for over 40 years and they stained just fine. I also stained some old Kappler ties that may have been 20 or 30 years old (I can’t remember when I got them) and they stained fine as well. If you used 70% alcohol, it is not inconceivable that at least part of the alcohol has evaporated out and water isn’t as good a carrier as alcohol, IMHO. I think I would mix up a whole new batch of stain. The materials are cheap.
>
> Jim Marlett
> http://flatheaddrag.com/
> http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/
>
>






--
lloyd lehrer


Re: Staining ties

Dale Buxton
 

All I have ever used is denatured alcohol and Fiebing Leather dye. Never had any problems with it. I feel this mixture gives superior penetration and prevents warping in longer lengths of strip wood. Like higher percentages of water to alcohol might. I live in Colorado so I’ve never had a problem with the alcohol drawing water out of the air. It’s just too dry here! Lol

Dale Buxton

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 18:10 lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:
Bill, wear nitrile gloves.  too much thru the skin absorption is not good.
lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 5:04 PM Bill Lugg <luggw1@...> wrote:
I pulled the ties out of the solution after a day and a half of soaking
and they looked like very lightly weathered wood.

So, I think you all are right that my solution has lost some of the
alcohol carrier after sitting for so long.  I was going to try some 91%
and shoe dye to see how it works, but discovered alcohol is rarer that
hen's teeth right now - apparently there's some kid of a pandemic going
on.  ;o)  I have a gallon of denatured alcohol in the shop; will there
be any detrimental effects from using that instead?

Thanks for the help
Bill Lugg


On 10/19/20 10:43 AM, Jim Marlett wrote:
> I don’t have a clue what is going on, but I use 91% isopropyl alcohol and shoe leather dye. I just recently stained some ties I’ve had for over 40 years and they stained just fine. I also stained some old Kappler ties that may have been 20 or 30 years old (I can’t remember when I got them) and they stained fine as well. If you used 70% alcohol, it is not inconceivable that at least part of the alcohol has evaporated out and water isn’t as good a carrier as alcohol, IMHO. I think I would mix up a whole new batch of stain. The materials are cheap.
>
> Jim Marlett
> http://flatheaddrag.com/
> http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/
>
>






--
lloyd lehrer


Re: Staining ties

lloyd lehrer
 

Bill, wear nitrile gloves.  too much thru the skin absorption is not good.
lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 5:04 PM Bill Lugg <luggw1@...> wrote:
I pulled the ties out of the solution after a day and a half of soaking
and they looked like very lightly weathered wood.

So, I think you all are right that my solution has lost some of the
alcohol carrier after sitting for so long.  I was going to try some 91%
and shoe dye to see how it works, but discovered alcohol is rarer that
hen's teeth right now - apparently there's some kid of a pandemic going
on.  ;o)  I have a gallon of denatured alcohol in the shop; will there
be any detrimental effects from using that instead?

Thanks for the help
Bill Lugg


On 10/19/20 10:43 AM, Jim Marlett wrote:
> I don’t have a clue what is going on, but I use 91% isopropyl alcohol and shoe leather dye. I just recently stained some ties I’ve had for over 40 years and they stained just fine. I also stained some old Kappler ties that may have been 20 or 30 years old (I can’t remember when I got them) and they stained fine as well. If you used 70% alcohol, it is not inconceivable that at least part of the alcohol has evaporated out and water isn’t as good a carrier as alcohol, IMHO. I think I would mix up a whole new batch of stain. The materials are cheap.
>
> Jim Marlett
> http://flatheaddrag.com/
> http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/
>
>






--
lloyd lehrer


Re: Staining ties

John G Massura
 

When my stain evaporates over time and becomes too dark, I add denatured alcohol to thin it out.

You can try with a couple oz of stain and add a few drops of denatured and see if there are any adverse effects.

John Massura

On Oct 20, 2020, at 19:04, Bill Lugg <luggw1@risebroadband.net> wrote:

I pulled the ties out of the solution after a day and a half of soaking and they looked like very lightly weathered wood.

So, I think you all are right that my solution has lost some of the alcohol carrier after sitting for so long. I was going to try some 91% and shoe dye to see how it works, but discovered alcohol is rarer that hen's teeth right now - apparently there's some kid of a pandemic going on. ;o) I have a gallon of denatured alcohol in the shop; will there be any detrimental effects from using that instead?

Thanks for the help
Bill Lugg


On 10/19/20 10:43 AM, Jim Marlett wrote:
I don’t have a clue what is going on, but I use 91% isopropyl alcohol and shoe leather dye. I just recently stained some ties I’ve had for over 40 years and they stained just fine. I also stained some old Kappler ties that may have been 20 or 30 years old (I can’t remember when I got them) and they stained fine as well. If you used 70% alcohol, it is not inconceivable that at least part of the alcohol has evaporated out and water isn’t as good a carrier as alcohol, IMHO. I think I would mix up a whole new batch of stain. The materials are cheap.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/




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