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Re: Grab iron spacing from body

claneon30
 

It’s five.

Chris Lane - Editor HOn3 Annual



On Oct 1, 2020, at 9:49 PM, lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:

How many threads should show on bolts would be the next critical issue to resolve.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 8:47 PM lloyd lehrer via groups.io <lloydlehrer=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I concur between 2.96" and 3.04" depending on stamped washers or cast washers.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 7:59 PM <Climax@...> wrote:
I think it looks better at 2 15/16ths

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dusty 
Sent: Oct 1, 2020 8:26 PM 
To: HOn3@groups.io 
Subject: [HOn3] Grab iron spacing from body 

I've been setting my grab irons out from the box car car sides using .030 x .060 styrene strip in various lengths for spacers. According to the chart on the Evergreen package that's 2 5/8 ". Does that sound about right?

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707

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lloyd lehrer



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lloyd lehrer


Re: Grab iron spacing from body

lloyd lehrer
 

How many threads should show on bolts would be the next critical issue to resolve.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 8:47 PM lloyd lehrer via groups.io <lloydlehrer=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I concur between 2.96" and 3.04" depending on stamped washers or cast washers.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 7:59 PM <Climax@...> wrote:
I think it looks better at 2 15/16ths

-----Original Message-----
From: Dusty
Sent: Oct 1, 2020 8:26 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Grab iron spacing from body

I've been setting my grab irons out from the box car car sides using .030 x .060 styrene strip in various lengths for spacers. According to the chart on the Evergreen package that's 2 5/8 ". Does that sound about right?

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707

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lloyd lehrer


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lloyd lehrer


Re: Grab iron spacing from body

lloyd lehrer
 

I concur between 2.96" and 3.04" depending on stamped washers or cast washers.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 7:59 PM <Climax@...> wrote:
I think it looks better at 2 15/16ths

-----Original Message-----
From: Dusty
Sent: Oct 1, 2020 8:26 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Grab iron spacing from body

I've been setting my grab irons out from the box car car sides using .030 x .060 styrene strip in various lengths for spacers. According to the chart on the Evergreen package that's 2 5/8 ". Does that sound about right?

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707


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lloyd lehrer


Re: Grab iron spacing from body

Climax@...
 

I think it looks better at 2 15/16ths

-----Original Message-----
From: Dusty
Sent: Oct 1, 2020 8:26 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Grab iron spacing from body

I've been setting my grab irons out from the box car car sides using .030 x .060 styrene strip in various lengths for spacers. According to the chart on the Evergreen package that's 2 5/8 ". Does that sound about right?

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707


Re: Looking for Kemtron C-16 (Original) Kit for sale or trade

Roger Clay
 

Because it it the Modern version, not as much as an Original or Intermediate kit as my era is the 1880s-early 1900s. You know, Roy of Roy’s Tains in Colorado Springs CO has two C-16 kits that he’s trying to determine the era and a sale price for me. He said that he will get back to me this weekend on this. Let me see what he comes up with. In any case, thanks SO much for taking the time on this.

— Roger


On Oct 1, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Ric Case <ebtmodeler@...> wrote:

Yes I did! Spent most of the day going through old invoices to see what I paid for it! 
Not sure what it’s worth to you! 
I can’t find any record for my purchase! Actually this is the first time I really laid everything out to look at it! I’m bad at buying something setting it aside and forget that I even have it! 
I have a lot of car kits in boxes from thirty years plus back! lol 

Roger Clay
The 7th Direction
Marin County, California
mobile & txt: 415-233-1290


Re: Looking for Kemtron C-16 (Original) Kit for sale or trade

Ric Case
 

Yes I did! Spent most of the day going through old invoices to see what I paid for it! 
Not sure what it’s worth to you! 
I can’t find any record for my purchase! Actually this is the first time I really laid everything out to look at it! I’m bad at buying something setting it aside and forget that I even have it! 
I have a lot of car kits in boxes from thirty years plus back! lol 
Make me a solid offer as what it’s worth to you! We’ll see how it works out ! 

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Roger Clay <roger@...> wrote:


Ric,

Did you get a reply from me yesterday? I am interested in your Modern C-16 kit.

— Roger

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 8:24 PM Ric Case <ebtmodeler@...> wrote:
Roger contact me off list! Just went through a box of equipment purchased from an estate! Thought I saw it on the list. Nob no instructions but looks like everything is there! I will need to lay out everything on a sheet to verify what’s there! It does have the Nwsl gear box and can motor. I was going to re gear one of my Westside C-16 , thus the purchase originally!


Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Sep 29, 2020, at 10:07 PM, Roger Clay <roger@...> wrote:

Hi! Burning Rio, a newbie here, looking for a Kemton C-16 Original kit. Over 40 years ago, I was building this kit, when I was offered a job at Precision Scale Company as a brass caster. I gave all my stuff to my brother to watch over until I got setup and settled. In the period of time that moving and settling took, he somehow accidentally tossed a box with a bunch of my NG projects.  The partially completed C-16 one of those projects in that box, MUCH to my horror!

I eventually forgave him (it was just as much my fault for not marking the box), and now that I have A LOT more time on my hands (thank you COVID-19), I want to "finish" what I started back in the day.

If you have or know of anyone with that kit, PLEASE drop me an email.

TIA -- Roger (AKA burning rio)




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Roger Clay
Phone and TXT: 1-415-233-1290
email: roger@...


Re: Looking for Kemtron C-16 (Original) Kit for sale or trade

Roger Clay
 

Ric,

Did you get a reply from me yesterday? I am interested in your Modern C-16 kit.

— Roger

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 8:24 PM Ric Case <ebtmodeler@...> wrote:
Roger contact me off list! Just went through a box of equipment purchased from an estate! Thought I saw it on the list. Nob no instructions but looks like everything is there! I will need to lay out everything on a sheet to verify what’s there! It does have the Nwsl gear box and can motor. I was going to re gear one of my Westside C-16 , thus the purchase originally!


Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Sep 29, 2020, at 10:07 PM, Roger Clay <roger@...> wrote:

Hi! Burning Rio, a newbie here, looking for a Kemton C-16 Original kit. Over 40 years ago, I was building this kit, when I was offered a job at Precision Scale Company as a brass caster. I gave all my stuff to my brother to watch over until I got setup and settled. In the period of time that moving and settling took, he somehow accidentally tossed a box with a bunch of my NG projects.  The partially completed C-16 one of those projects in that box, MUCH to my horror!

I eventually forgave him (it was just as much my fault for not marking the box), and now that I have A LOT more time on my hands (thank you COVID-19), I want to "finish" what I started back in the day.

If you have or know of anyone with that kit, PLEASE drop me an email.

TIA -- Roger (AKA burning rio)




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Roger Clay
Phone and TXT: 1-415-233-1290
email: roger@...


Grab iron spacing from body

Dusty
 

I've been setting my grab irons out from the box car car sides using .030 x .060 styrene strip in various lengths for spacers. According to the chart on the Evergreen package that's 2 5/8 ". Does that sound about right?

Dusty Burman
623 261-8707


Re: Division Point K-27 question

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Boo Rim made 100 K-27's for Division Point in 2002. Of those 25 were 461 though I do not know what the DRGW - RGS split was. When I mentioned I had one to Jack, he just said 'hold onto it!' Which I have. Basically they're rarer than rocking horse droppings.

Mark K


Re: Division Point K-27 question

k27bry
 

Hey Lawrence - forgot to respond on this one ; yes - I have seen 461 in both Rio Grande and RGS livery . Kind of torn about which one to look for !
                                                       Regards,
                                                                     Bryan


Re: Is there market "demand" for 3D printed HOn3 trucks?

Mick Moignard
 

Many years ago I made a set of the cast RPO trucks from MDC trucks and an E&B/MRGS outside bearing beam. Pretty convincing, well I think so...

Mick
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Re: Looking for Kemtron C-16 (Original) Kit for sale or trade

Ric Case
 

Roger contact me off list! Just went through a box of equipment purchased from an estate! Thought I saw it on the list. Nob no instructions but looks like everything is there! I will need to lay out everything on a sheet to verify what’s there! It does have the Nwsl gear box and can motor. I was going to re gear one of my Westside C-16 , thus the purchase originally!


Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Sep 29, 2020, at 10:07 PM, Roger Clay <roger@...> wrote:

Hi! Burning Rio, a newbie here, looking for a Kemton C-16 Original kit. Over 40 years ago, I was building this kit, when I was offered a job at Precision Scale Company as a brass caster. I gave all my stuff to my brother to watch over until I got setup and settled. In the period of time that moving and settling took, he somehow accidentally tossed a box with a bunch of my NG projects.  The partially completed C-16 one of those projects in that box, MUCH to my horror!

I eventually forgave him (it was just as much my fault for not marking the box), and now that I have A LOT more time on my hands (thank you COVID-19), I want to "finish" what I started back in the day.

If you have or know of anyone with that kit, PLEASE drop me an email.

TIA -- Roger (AKA burning rio)


Re: Is there market "demand" for 3D printed HOn3 trucks?

Wayne
 

FWIW:  LaBelle sells a lot of D&RGW passenger cars, all of which come without trucks.  I personally have 6 unstarted kits and 3 completed ones on which I have installed KaDee 717 trucks ( 4' 6" arch bar).  Blackstone made passenger trucks but everyone has  been out of them for over a year+ now.  Modelrailroadgeneralstore.com sells their own brand on eBay from time to time but their service is terrible - 10 days after payment clears before they ship. 


Re: Is there market "demand" for 3D printed HOn3 trucks?

Jim Spencer
 

For years the brass builders in HOn3 were putting out RPO cars with incorrect outside clasp passenger trucks. Offhand, I can think of Key, PFM, Balboa or Custom Brass and maybe others were doing this.  Those particular cars built new in the mid 1920s had trucks with cast steel frames and inside clasp brakes (maybe built by AC&F(?).  PSC did a late run of the brass RPO cars with the correct trucks and I understand that a few were available separately, but very pricey! Others, including me bought the WP&Y steel cabooses for the trucks - that are similar but too short. And I would like to repatriate my trucks with the original caboose where they below.

Given that there are a lot of brass and non-brass RPO cars out there, it would seem to me to be a good candidate for 3D printed trucks.  And I believe that all of those trucks are still in use on the Durango & Silverton because of their newer design, therefore available for measurements. Comments?

Jim Spencer


Re: Division Point K-27 question

k27bry
 

^ Thanks Lawrence - I thought I remembered 455 , but what you said makes sense . I exchanged an e-mail with Jack a couple days ago and for some reason those previously mentioned new run K-27's and K-28's are no longer being planned .
                                                                 Regards,
                                                                               Bryan


Re: BLACKSTONE C-19s FOR SALE

Brian Booth
 

I would take a black boiler unlettered version.  Emailed and Private Messaged.

Thanks 

Brian


Re: Division Point K-27 question

Lawrence Wisniewski <lwreno@...>
 

As far as I can recall, Division Point only brought in 4 inside piston valve K-27's (454, 456, 458, 461).  No outside valve engines were done although there was a promise to do those on the "next run" (which never came in).  I am not sure if the 461 was done in both D&RGW and RGS versions.


-----Original Message-----
From: k27bry via groups.io <k27bry@...>
To: HOn3@groups.io
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 12:41 pm
Subject: [HOn3] Division Point K-27 question

Hi Guys ,
               I was heavily invested in PBL Sn3 when the DP HOn3 K-27's came out and didn't pay much attention to which versions they did at the time so I'm only aware of ones I saw for sale in the aftermarket . I'm aware of early / speed lettering on some as well as RGS on 455 and 461 so beyond these numbers  ( 454 , 455 , 456 , 461 ) which others did Jack do ?
                                                                 Thanks,
                                                                              Bryan


Division Point K-27 question

k27bry
 
Edited

Hi Guys ,
               I was heavily invested in PBL Sn3 when the DP HOn3 K-27's came out and didn't pay much attention to which versions they did at the time so I'm only aware of ones I saw for sale in the aftermarket . I'm aware of early / speed lettering on some as well as RGS on 455 and 461 so beyond these numbers  ( 454 , 455 , 456 , 458, 461 ) which others did Jack do ?
                                                                 Thanks,
                                                                              Bryan


Re: brake gear

Don Ball
 

They are still available. Go to sanjuanmodelco.com

Don Ball

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 10:21 AM Robert Veefkind via groups.io <snookdust=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Good day gentlemen
Looks like Grandt line brake parts for hon3 freight cars and tanks are no later available-or are they ? The tichy parts are okay but wish they were cast in black instead of grey. They need to painted black before installing on existing cars. Any thing else out there ?   Bob Veefkind


brake gear

Robert Veefkind
 

Good day gentlemen
Looks like Grandt line brake parts for hon3 freight cars and tanks are no later available-or are they ? The tichy parts are okay but wish they were cast in black instead of grey. They need to painted black before installing on existing cars. Any thing else out there ?   Bob Veefkind

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