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Re: A Rookie and La Belle Kits

Climax@...
 

Take some wooden paint sturing sticks and spray them with spray on glue.  Then wrap them in sand paper.  They work great and are easily controlled.  I have them done in various grit sandpapers.

I started on Labelle kits back in the 1960's.  The one thing that  you should do is make a drilling jig for the wire hand grabs.  It keeps them level and properly spaced apart on freight cars.  I always finished mine with floquil paints and I put Sierra Scale Models real scale glass on the inside of the windows instead of the plastic. they look so much better.  I put full interiors in my cars as well.  Used up a lot of Grandt Line Coach seats, put dividers in and even had an RPO and observation car with tables, chairs and a kitchen.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Curtis Brookshire via groups.io"
Sent: Sep 11, 2020 8:42 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] A Rookie and La Belle Kits

I highly recommend LaBelle's roof rounding kits for shaping the roof. You can find them on the website under button 3 parts and accessories. They're easy to use and just takes some good sandpaper (a sanding block helps greatly), and a little patience and you'll have a fine looking roof. 

Your call of course whether you want the Labelle roof or MRGS. Enjoy building. I think LaBelle's are fine kits.

Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level NC


Re: Sanding Sealer Part 2

p. f. hollingsworth
 

Are there no hardware or paint stores to buy sanding sealer from? I still have a gallon or so from cabinet making days, and thinned down for modeling it works well when I need some. I just brush it on when it is needed and avoid getting the airbrush dirty. If you are just going to sand it anyhow, a thinned down mix works really well.


Re: A Rookie and La Belle Kits

Curtis Brookshire
 

I highly recommend LaBelle's roof rounding kits for shaping the roof. You can find them on the website under button 3 parts and accessories. They're easy to use and just takes some good sandpaper (a sanding block helps greatly), and a little patience and you'll have a fine looking roof. 

Your call of course whether you want the Labelle roof or MRGS. Enjoy building. I think LaBelle's are fine kits.

Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level NC


Re: Sanding Sealer Part 2

Art D3
 

I prefer Minwax water based sanding sealer from a big box home improvement store. You can't get any more cost effective. Dries quickly, so you can do multiple coats sanding in between until the wood fiber "fuzz" stop lifting.I usually assemble the car body then seal it. The glue holds better and no warping.
--
Art Dutra
Meriden, CT


Re: Help in the Portland, OR area?

cmdrwmriker
 

dave absolutely stunning!  thank you for you willingness and kind words, and great photos!  You will be happy to know that a UP engineer responded to my email also, and he lives int he same small town as I do-we are practically neighbors!  so now all we gotta do is get organized!  Thanks again, be cool
bill

----- Original Message -----
From: Climax@...
To: HOn3@groups.io
Sent: Sun, 06 Sep 2020 21:41:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Help in the Portland, OR area?

In that case, I retired 5 years ago, then worked on a house for a year and a half.  The railroad you see in the pictures I built in two years in my three car (w stalls) of the garage.  The third stall is my shop area.  It is HO on the lower line and HOn3 on the upper line.  Mule Pass & Woodland Railway lower line.  Woodland Davis Lumber and mining Railroad on top.
Dave

-----Original Message-----

From: cmdrwmriker

Sent: Sep 6, 2020 9:26 PM

To: HOn3@groups.io

Subject: Re: [HOn3] Help in the Portland, OR area?



specifically, I just need some fresh insight to get me motivated.

----- Original Message -----
From: Climax@...
To: HOn3@groups.io
Sent: Sun, 06 Sep 2020 20:12:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Help in the Portland, OR area?

What?  I do not understand what you are wanting to do, other than gather friends.  Dave   at   Climax@...

-----Original Message-----

From: cmdrwmriker

Sent: Sep 3, 2020 3:12 PM

To: HOn3@groups.io

Subject: [HOn3] Help in the Portland, OR area?



I feel like I am running out of time!  I have all kinds of cool HOn3 "stuff" and yet I cannot seem to get off the bubble; I am looking for some HOn3 comraderie; anyone interested in getting a new layout off the ground?  Thanks, bill M.








Re: A Rookie and La Belle Kits

Randy Hees
 

I always used shellac... which can be purchased at any home center in a spray bomb....  Shellac is alcohol based.

Randy Hees

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:06 PM LARRY KLOSE <lklose@...> wrote:

I built my first LaBelle kit shortly after the passenger cars were introduced—I still remember the issue of Model Railroader with a photo of the introductory kit on the cover, January 1960.  I was 13 and I built the same kit as reviewed with little difficulty.  It was one of the first really complex craft kits I built.  I had few problems and it came out fine.  I think the kits are a good starter as long as the instructions are followed.  Painting will be the most difficult thing to deal with; as a nearly all wood kit it will need either solvent based paints or an application of either sanding sealer or primer before painting with acrylics to discourage warping and raised grain. 

 

I’ve found that just jumping in and doing it is the best way to get going. 

 

Good luck!

 

Larry

 

PS: According to the review that kit retailed for $4.95, postpaid.


Re: Sanding Sealer Part 2

asandrini
 

Bill, 

Another formula was to take lacquer thinner and desolve Styrofoam drinking cups in the thinner.  This wa s to give their wood wings a "tooth" so that their monocote cave r ing would stick better. Would mkt suggest this method  for our modeling.

Al



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Re: Sanding Sealer (was: A Rookie and La Belle Kits)

asandrini
 

In the hobby business, I saw all kinds of things my R/C customers would do. To improvise their own sanding asked. They would mix a little talcum powder with some lacquer. I'm  guessing about 1/4 teaspoon to four ounces of lacquer.  I would think you could mix it with acrylic lacquer as well.  Shake well, brush it on, then sand with some 600 or finer sandpaper.

Al



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Bill Lugg <luggw1@...>
Date: 9/11/20 4:28 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Sanding Sealer (was: A Rookie and La Belle Kits)

Maybe this has been covered and I missed it...

What are folks using for a sanding sealer on wood these days to get that
hard varnish appearance on passenger cars, for example?

Thanks
Bill Lugg


On 9/11/20 5:05 PM, LARRY KLOSE wrote:
>
> I built my first LaBelle kit shortly after the passenger cars were
> introduced—I still remember the issue of Model Railroader with a photo
> of the introductory kit on the cover, January 1960.  I was 13 and I
> built the same kit as reviewed with little difficulty.  It was one of
> the first really complex craft kits I built.  I had few problems and
> it came out fine.  I think the kits are a good starter as long as the
> instructions are followed.  Painting will be the most difficult thing
> to deal with; as a nearly all wood kit it will need either solvent
> based paints or an application of either sanding sealer or primer
> before painting with acrylics to discourage warping and raised grain.
>
> I’ve found that just jumping in and doing it is the best way to get
> going.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Larry
>
> PS: According to the review that kit retailed for $4.95, postpaid.
>
>




Sanding Sealer (was: A Rookie and La Belle Kits)

Bill Lugg
 

Maybe this has been covered and I missed it...

What are folks using for a sanding sealer on wood these days to get that hard varnish appearance on passenger cars, for example?

Thanks
Bill Lugg

On 9/11/20 5:05 PM, LARRY KLOSE wrote:

I built my first LaBelle kit shortly after the passenger cars were introduced—I still remember the issue of Model Railroader with a photo of the introductory kit on the cover, January 1960.  I was 13 and I built the same kit as reviewed with little difficulty.  It was one of the first really complex craft kits I built.  I had few problems and it came out fine.  I think the kits are a good starter as long as the instructions are followed.  Painting will be the most difficult thing to deal with; as a nearly all wood kit it will need either solvent based paints or an application of either sanding sealer or primer before painting with acrylics to discourage warping and raised grain.

I’ve found that just jumping in and doing it is the best way to get going.

Good luck!

Larry

PS: According to the review that kit retailed for $4.95, postpaid.


Re: A Rookie and La Belle Kits

LARRY KLOSE
 

I built my first LaBelle kit shortly after the passenger cars were introduced—I still remember the issue of Model Railroader with a photo of the introductory kit on the cover, January 1960.  I was 13 and I built the same kit as reviewed with little difficulty.  It was one of the first really complex craft kits I built.  I had few problems and it came out fine.  I think the kits are a good starter as long as the instructions are followed.  Painting will be the most difficult thing to deal with; as a nearly all wood kit it will need either solvent based paints or an application of either sanding sealer or primer before painting with acrylics to discourage warping and raised grain. 

 

I’ve found that just jumping in and doing it is the best way to get going. 

 

Good luck!

 

Larry

 

PS: According to the review that kit retailed for $4.95, postpaid.


sold: kadee HOn3 715 assembly jig and trucks

lloyd lehrer
 

Sold
lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 3:31 PM lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:
I have 4 assembled hon3 kadee trucks, one 715 jig and 2 unassembled trucks.  $12 plus shipping, paypal friends.

lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097

--
lloyd lehrer


Re: fs: kadee HOn3 715 assembly jig and trucks

cmdrwmriker
 

I will take them please.
bill marshall

----- Original Message -----
From: lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...>
To: HOn3@groups.io, HOSWAP@groups.io
Sent: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:31:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HOn3] fs: kadee HOn3 715 assembly jig and trucks

I have 4 assembled hon3 kadee trucks, one 715 jig and 2 unassembled trucks.  $12 plus shipping, paypal friends.

lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097

--
lloyd lehrer




fs: kadee HOn3 715 assembly jig and trucks

lloyd lehrer
 

I have 4 assembled hon3 kadee trucks, one 715 jig and 2 unassembled trucks.  $12 plus shipping, paypal friends.

lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097

--
lloyd lehrer


Re: A Rookie and La Belle Kits

silent_11111
 

Thanks for the suggestions and advice everyone.
I'll grab them next time I head out that way.

Paul


On Friday, September 11, 2020, 10:34:13 AM CDT, Bill Nelson <dgccandwrr@...> wrote:


Labelle kits  are  awesome.  at  $10.00 a  piece  buy  them  all.  new passenger car  kits kits  cost  in the  neighborhood  of  $60.00    These  are  advanced kits,  that  said  I  build  one 50 years  ago,  and  did  well  enough  that  it  still  lives  on  as  a  shed,  and  would  be  in  service  had  I  not  done  some  very  weird  kit bashing  to  make  it  into  a  steam  coach,   my  favorite  passenger  cars  are  all  built  from  Labelle  kits,    and  thier  freight  cars  are  not  shabby  either. 

the  materials  are  outstanding,  the  process  is  relatively  simple,  shaping  the  bullnose  at  the  end  of  the  celestory  roof  is  the  most  challenging part  of  the  build,  requiring  careful  shaping ,  they  give  you  a  jig  to  check  the  shape.    I  got  some self  adhesive  sand  paper, sand  paper  and  stuck  it  to  a  scrap  piece  of  plywood,  and  working  with  coarse  sand  paper  first    worked  bit  by  bit  on  the  curve.   In  todays  world  finding  the  appropriate  passenger  trucks  may  be  a  challenge.

Seriously  if  you  could  get  ten  of  these  kits,  you  will  be  quite  good  at  building  them  before  you  are  done.   as  a  freshly  retired  guy  with  too  many  residences, and  little  to  no  budget,  I’m  quite  jealous  of  this  opportunity,  go  for  it,  before  someone  else  does.  


Bill Nelson  (AKA Arthur, and  Willie Nelson)


On Sep 10, 2020, at 10:35 PM, silent_11111 via groups.io <silent_11111@...> wrote:

Howdy folks,

I went by my "local" (if you call 200 miles away local) shop today to pick up some gaming supplies.
I walked the train shelves and found they have some La Belle HOn3 kits. Specifically about 10 passenger car kits and a couple freight cars. 

At about $10 each, they were tempting to me as the going price for Blackstone passenger cars is "hefty"...

I looked in the boxes and all the little wooden pieces made me a bit nervous.

I've never built any HOn3 car kits or any model train kit cars.

Would it be safe to start with La Belle kits or are they more of an advanced modeller thing?

Would the MRGS kits be a better place to start?

 

Thanks for any input.



Re: A Rookie and La Belle Kits

lloyd lehrer
 

Remember, you can always use the mrgs version to avoid carving the duckbills:

lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:01 AM Mike Chamberlain <mikec6201@...> wrote:
They aren"t that hard  to assemble , the hardest part is the roof that you will have to carve the ends ............Mike

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:34 AM Bill Nelson <dgccandwrr@...> wrote:
Labelle kits  are  awesome.  at  $10.00 a  piece  buy  them  all.  new passenger car  kits kits  cost  in the  neighborhood  of  $60.00    These  are  advanced kits,  that  said  I  build  one 50 years  ago,  and  did  well  enough  that  it  still  lives  on  as  a  shed,  and  would  be  in  service  had  I  not  done  some  very  weird  kit bashing  to  make  it  into  a  steam  coach,   my  favorite  passenger  cars  are  all  built  from  Labelle  kits,    and  thier  freight  cars  are  not  shabby  either. 

the  materials  are  outstanding,  the  process  is  relatively  simple,  shaping  the  bullnose  at  the  end  of  the  celestory  roof  is  the  most  challenging part  of  the  build,  requiring  careful  shaping ,  they  give  you  a  jig  to  check  the  shape.    I  got  some self  adhesive  sand  paper, sand  paper  and  stuck  it  to  a  scrap  piece  of  plywood,  and  working  with  coarse  sand  paper  first    worked  bit  by  bit  on  the  curve.   In  todays  world  finding  the  appropriate  passenger  trucks  may  be  a  challenge.

Seriously  if  you  could  get  ten  of  these  kits,  you  will  be  quite  good  at  building  them  before  you  are  done.   as  a  freshly  retired  guy  with  too  many  residences, and  little  to  no  budget,  I’m  quite  jealous  of  this  opportunity,  go  for  it,  before  someone  else  does.  


Bill Nelson  (AKA Arthur, and  Willie Nelson)


On Sep 10, 2020, at 10:35 PM, silent_11111 via groups.io <silent_11111@...> wrote:

Howdy folks,

I went by my "local" (if you call 200 miles away local) shop today to pick up some gaming supplies.
I walked the train shelves and found they have some La Belle HOn3 kits. Specifically about 10 passenger car kits and a couple freight cars. 

At about $10 each, they were tempting to me as the going price for Blackstone passenger cars is "hefty"...

I looked in the boxes and all the little wooden pieces made me a bit nervous.

I've never built any HOn3 car kits or any model train kit cars.

Would it be safe to start with La Belle kits or are they more of an advanced modeller thing?

Would the MRGS kits be a better place to start?

 

Thanks for any input.



--
lloyd lehrer


Re: A Rookie and La Belle Kits

Mike Chamberlain
 

They aren"t that hard  to assemble , the hardest part is the roof that you will have to carve the ends ............Mike


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:34 AM Bill Nelson <dgccandwrr@...> wrote:
Labelle kits  are  awesome.  at  $10.00 a  piece  buy  them  all.  new passenger car  kits kits  cost  in the  neighborhood  of  $60.00    These  are  advanced kits,  that  said  I  build  one 50 years  ago,  and  did  well  enough  that  it  still  lives  on  as  a  shed,  and  would  be  in  service  had  I  not  done  some  very  weird  kit bashing  to  make  it  into  a  steam  coach,   my  favorite  passenger  cars  are  all  built  from  Labelle  kits,    and  thier  freight  cars  are  not  shabby  either. 

the  materials  are  outstanding,  the  process  is  relatively  simple,  shaping  the  bullnose  at  the  end  of  the  celestory  roof  is  the  most  challenging part  of  the  build,  requiring  careful  shaping ,  they  give  you  a  jig  to  check  the  shape.    I  got  some self  adhesive  sand  paper, sand  paper  and  stuck  it  to  a  scrap  piece  of  plywood,  and  working  with  coarse  sand  paper  first    worked  bit  by  bit  on  the  curve.   In  todays  world  finding  the  appropriate  passenger  trucks  may  be  a  challenge.

Seriously  if  you  could  get  ten  of  these  kits,  you  will  be  quite  good  at  building  them  before  you  are  done.   as  a  freshly  retired  guy  with  too  many  residences, and  little  to  no  budget,  I’m  quite  jealous  of  this  opportunity,  go  for  it,  before  someone  else  does.  


Bill Nelson  (AKA Arthur, and  Willie Nelson)


On Sep 10, 2020, at 10:35 PM, silent_11111 via groups.io <silent_11111@...> wrote:

Howdy folks,

I went by my "local" (if you call 200 miles away local) shop today to pick up some gaming supplies.
I walked the train shelves and found they have some La Belle HOn3 kits. Specifically about 10 passenger car kits and a couple freight cars. 

At about $10 each, they were tempting to me as the going price for Blackstone passenger cars is "hefty"...

I looked in the boxes and all the little wooden pieces made me a bit nervous.

I've never built any HOn3 car kits or any model train kit cars.

Would it be safe to start with La Belle kits or are they more of an advanced modeller thing?

Would the MRGS kits be a better place to start?

 

Thanks for any input.



Re: A Rookie and La Belle Kits

Bill Nelson
 

Labelle kits  are  awesome.  at  $10.00 a  piece  buy  them  all.  new passenger car  kits kits  cost  in the  neighborhood  of  $60.00    These  are  advanced kits,  that  said  I  build  one 50 years  ago,  and  did  well  enough  that  it  still  lives  on  as  a  shed,  and  would  be  in  service  had  I  not  done  some  very  weird  kit bashing  to  make  it  into  a  steam  coach,   my  favorite  passenger  cars  are  all  built  from  Labelle  kits,    and  thier  freight  cars  are  not  shabby  either. 

the  materials  are  outstanding,  the  process  is  relatively  simple,  shaping  the  bullnose  at  the  end  of  the  celestory  roof  is  the  most  challenging part  of  the  build,  requiring  careful  shaping ,  they  give  you  a  jig  to  check  the  shape.    I  got  some self  adhesive  sand  paper, sand  paper  and  stuck  it  to  a  scrap  piece  of  plywood,  and  working  with  coarse  sand  paper  first    worked  bit  by  bit  on  the  curve.   In  todays  world  finding  the  appropriate  passenger  trucks  may  be  a  challenge.

Seriously  if  you  could  get  ten  of  these  kits,  you  will  be  quite  good  at  building  them  before  you  are  done.   as  a  freshly  retired  guy  with  too  many  residences, and  little  to  no  budget,  I’m  quite  jealous  of  this  opportunity,  go  for  it,  before  someone  else  does.  


Bill Nelson  (AKA Arthur, and  Willie Nelson)


On Sep 10, 2020, at 10:35 PM, silent_11111 via groups.io <silent_11111@...> wrote:

Howdy folks,

I went by my "local" (if you call 200 miles away local) shop today to pick up some gaming supplies.
I walked the train shelves and found they have some La Belle HOn3 kits. Specifically about 10 passenger car kits and a couple freight cars. 

At about $10 each, they were tempting to me as the going price for Blackstone passenger cars is "hefty"...

I looked in the boxes and all the little wooden pieces made me a bit nervous.

I've never built any HOn3 car kits or any model train kit cars.

Would it be safe to start with La Belle kits or are they more of an advanced modeller thing?

Would the MRGS kits be a better place to start?

 

Thanks for any input.



Re: A Rookie and La Belle Kits

Paul Buhrke
 

Short of ten tank cars my entire fleet, around 100+/-,  are wood kits. Take your time and double check yourself. Before long instructions will be a guide only.
--
Paul Buhrke
D&RGW Salida Division
Lost in the Black Canyon in 1929


Re: A Rookie and La Belle Kits

John Stutz
 

If you are nervous about assembling the LaBelle kits, their website has about a dozen short illustrated articles on proven techniques for working on wood kits in general, and specifically on assembling LaBelle passenger cars.  These are available as downloadable .pdf files.  No charge if you download them yourself.

John Stutz


Re: A Rookie and La Belle Kits

Ken Vandevoort <apo09324@...>
 

If I could find La Belle HOn3 kits for $10, I would grab them.  They may be advanced, but follow the instructions and take your time.

Ken Vandevoort

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