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Re: the future of HON3

kevin b
 

that's a neat looking loco, wouldn't half mind having one or two of those on my pike.
YUKON






There aren't a lot of good images of these Granby Hidden Creek (Anyox) 3 foot Baldwin steeple cabs. Here's (attached) what I have in my Anyox image collection. Ed Weldon


Re: the future of HON3

 

There aren't a lot of good images of these Granby Hidden Creek (Anyox) 3 foot Baldwin steeple cabs. Here's (attached) what I have in my Anyox image collection.  Ed Weldon


Re: the future of HON3

Mark Lewis
 

Paul,

Wow...that looks amazing!!

Mark Lewis
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.


On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 6:22 PM hiroechan <hiroechan@...> wrote:
Yes, absolutely.

It's not for sale, is it?
--Drew


On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 6:14 PM Paul Sturtz <apa_208@...> wrote:
Like this one?
Paul


Re: the future of HON3

hiroechan
 

Yes, absolutely.

It's not for sale, is it?
--Drew


On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 6:14 PM Paul Sturtz <apa_208@...> wrote:
Like this one?
Paul


Re: the future of HON3

Paul Sturtz
 

Like this one?
Paul


Re: NG diesels

Paul Sturtz
 

Those are neat!  Maybe converting to HOn30 is the answer.  My 44t didn't look as good as these.  Most of my conversions were completed as leased/demonstrator units that could fit in any layout.
Paul


Re: NG diesels

Paul Sturtz
 

That one sure has traveled!  I did send one to England, I think this may be that one.  
Paul


Re: NG diesels

Paul Sturtz
 

Thanks, Ted, and yes, they run very well.  One of the biggest problems with the conversions are the split axles, a common Bachmann problem.  I repair them by cutting washers from tube aluminum and press fitting them on the axles.  This could be your problem.  If you cut the gearboxes correctly, check your axles.  See the attached photos.  I have also upgraded the DCC.
Paul


New Log Wagon

richrands
 

We have released a new Log Wagon #2106 in HO $10.95.
See more at:  https://www.berkshirevalleymodels.com/apps/webstore/products/category/1558878?page=1


Re: NG diesels

Bruce
 

Very, very nicely done!  Any hints as to what all you did to turn out such great looking models?

With cinders in your eyes,
Bruce
419-602-3584 cell


Re: NG diesels

TED <MECU18B@...>
 

Orrrrrrr you can modify the 45 tonner or the 70 tonner into correct width units. These have all been narrowed to proper HOn3 widths of 8 ft. the 70 tonner has a bit more work to go on it.  Now these all sit on N scale drives (HOn30) but  I would must rather have them with HOn3 drives. A simple switch a roo  if a drive ever becomes available.

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Re: NG diesels

Mark Lewis
 

Jim,

I like that, a lot!

Mark Lewis 
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 5:45 PM James Kendig <jjkendig@...> wrote:

An easier alternative may be the HO Atlas Alco 660. I have three on my layout.  All are DCC and one has a Sountrax decoder with the protypical sound for these units. Steve Swafford, a modeler in the Chicago area, does the conversions at a reasonable price.  He also sells other switchers converted on eBay.  His user name there in JeepCaptain.  The units are 42' in length.  
Jim Kendig


Re: NG diesels

James Kendig
 


An easier alternative may be the HO Atlas Alco 660. I have three on my layout.  All are DCC and one has a Sountrax decoder with the protypical sound for these units. Steve Swafford, a modeler in the Chicago area, does the conversions at a reasonable price.  He also sells other switchers converted on eBay.  His user name there in JeepCaptain.  The units are 42' in length.  
Jim Kendig


Re: the future of HON3

John
 

Hi Ed,
I know a guy in Canada ( Gerald Harper) who models the Anyox in on3. He's got lots of info and did a presentation at the narrow gauge Convention a few years ago
John Peckham


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:06 AM, Ed Weldon
<23.weldon@...> wrote:

I think we ought to take a look at the way the HOn30 modelers have gone.  There are very limited rtr locos and they are small industrial types.  So they have generally stayed away from Western USA prototypes.  But what they have done is work with available chassis/mechanisms from the N scale world and done a lot with 3d printing. 
So this leads me to thinking that a good HOn3 product may be an 8 wheel "diesel" chassis that is stretchable in it's wheel base and accepts whatever 3d printed side frames that are needed for a given loco and even large rail buses.  This would be a ready invitation to 3d printed superstructures for whatever diesel one wants to model.  It would even work for an HOn3 Baldwin electric when some ambitious modeler decides to tackle modeling the Anyox/Hidden Creek operation in British Columbia. (Something I put a lot of share-able research into; but won't live to actually do.) The nice thing about doing just the diesel chassis is that there is no big investment in expensive injection mold tooling and the necessary sales volume to make the venture profitable. And by using 12 volt electric motors that are in common use in automobile manufacturing a long term supply of that item is well assured.


Re: the future of HON3

 

Here's one other thought.  Develop an 8 driver basic ("adjustable") steam chassis that can be used as a 2-8-0, 2-6-0 Baldwin, 2-6-0 Cooke, 4-4-0, 2-4-0, 2-4-4 or whatever else can be fitted over it in the way of a 3d printed or scratch built superstructure and tender as required. This would take some careful study and engineering and obviously would not provide prototype detail perfection that we see in Blackstone and good brass. 
But is that perfection really needed for the creative modeler?  It certainly is not the case for the HOn30 community.  We were spoiled and our HOn3 hobby went on its current path because of the evolution of ever more perfect detailed scale models.  But in the process we downgraded creativity to the role of shaping plaster mountains, inventing new layout construction techniques and playing with electronics and animations, the sad last frontier for creativity and electro-mechanical talent in model railroading.
We seem to have forgotten that all modeling is an artistic exercise in fiction.  What really counts is the quality and consistency of the work as a whole.   I like to say that a well done Thomas tank engine layout looks great.  But if you were to put a single contest winning HO structure in the middle of it the result would be a ridiculous eyesore or at least cynical insult.

We ought t think about that.


Re: NG diesels

TED <MECU18B@...>
 

Paul.....outstanding work , no two ways about it !!  How do they run?? I have a set of conversation wheels  but after a couple failed attempts ( didn't run well at all) They sit in my parts box.


Re: the future of HON3

 

I think we ought to take a look at the way the HOn30 modelers have gone.  There are very limited rtr locos and they are small industrial types.  So they have generally stayed away from Western USA prototypes.  But what they have done is work with available chassis/mechanisms from the N scale world and done a lot with 3d printing. 
So this leads me to thinking that a good HOn3 product may be an 8 wheel "diesel" chassis that is stretchable in it's wheel base and accepts whatever 3d printed side frames that are needed for a given loco and even large rail buses.  This would be a ready invitation to 3d printed superstructures for whatever diesel one wants to model.  It would even work for an HOn3 Baldwin electric when some ambitious modeler decides to tackle modeling the Anyox/Hidden Creek operation in British Columbia. (Something I put a lot of share-able research into; but won't live to actually do.) The nice thing about doing just the diesel chassis is that there is no big investment in expensive injection mold tooling and the necessary sales volume to make the venture profitable. And by using 12 volt electric motors that are in common use in automobile manufacturing a long term supply of that item is well assured.


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Brinton Jones
 

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Re: NG diesels

gnorwood6 gnorwood6
 

Paul,
Looked at the photos and I was impressed. 
Just for your information, one of your 70 ton conversions made it all the way to Australia.
One of my mates bought one off ebay in Australia. Some guy in the state of South Australia had one up for sale.
Gary



------ Original Message ------
From: "Paul Sturtz" <apa_208@...>
To: HOn3@groups.io
Sent: Friday, 12 Jun, 2020 At 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: [HOn3] NG diesels

Just for info, here are photos of the NWSL brass #50 and one of my conversions, a 70t SP diesel.    


Re: NG diesels

Paul Sturtz
 

Just for info, here are photos of the NWSL brass #50 and one of my conversions, a 70t SP diesel.

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