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Re: Blackstone K-27

Paul Sturtz
 

Now you tell me!  I'll try that next time and thanks for  that good info!
Paul


Re: Blackstone K-27

bob.meckley@...
 

Paul:
    you mentioned using only one tender truck for power pickup. They are opposite polarity. I use a foam cradle and with the engine upside down use clip leads from my programming track to each tender axle and run the engine cleaning the engine wheels.


Re: Blackstone K-27

Paul Sturtz
 

Yup, it's the decoder alright...….


Paul


Re: Blackstone C19 tender modification question

Robert Bell
 

Tony, what did you use for the tender body?  It looks great!

Rob Bell 


On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 3:06 AM, tonyk537 via Groups.Io
<Tonyk375@...> wrote:
You can get a somewhat lower profile shell with the stock electronics.  These two oil bunkers are al low as you can get over everything.
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Re: Blackstone C19 tender modification question

Mark Kasprowicz
 

George,

I do not see why not. Provided there is enough clearance for the underside of the circuit board not to foul any metal parts then something like a sugar cube speaker would allow you a few precious millimetres. In fact if the speaker was placed in the coal load pointing up rather than down then the saving could be substantial.
Now if this was a BS K-27 I'd be saying chuck the old board out and fit a TSU2! But the C-19 sound was a big improvement on previous projects as Sound traxx were working with fresh recordings.

Mark K


Re: Blackstone C19 tender modification question

Jeff Young
 

Fantastic weathering on #64!


Re: Blackstone C19 tender modification question

Bill Miller
 

Western Rails makes a 3-D printed replacement tender shell that Looks more eastern Narrow Gauge that fits over the tender electronics.    https://western-rails.com/

 Bill Miller

 

-----Original Message-----
From: George Pierson <gpierson@...>
To: HOn3 <HOn3@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2019 11:52 pm
Subject: [HOn3] Blackstone C19 tender modification question

Hi, all,

I'm new to the list so I hope my question has not been already worked over.  I love my Blackstone C19's.  I use them on my Tuscarora Valley RR, and central PA n.g. pike.  My one complaint is that the stock Blackstone tender is a typical D&RGW higher side tender with an air tank.  Eastern 2-8-0's of this vintage often had smaller lower-sided tenders - which is what I'd like to do to my model.  BUT the decoder board is mounted relatively high, necessitating the use of a high-side tender.  This allows for space underneath for the stock speaker frame.

Here's my question: what do you all think of removing the decoder board, removing the existing speaker frame and speaker, replacing it with a lower profile speaker, then cutting down the four posts holding up the decoder board, and re-attaching the decoder board?  This would allow me to use a lower profile tender shell.  

Your thoughts?

George Pierson


Re: Blackstone C19 tender modification question

tonyk537
 

You can get a somewhat lower profile shell with the stock electronics.  These two oil bunkers are al low as you can get over everything.


Re: Blackstone K-27

Mark Kasprowicz
 

That shouldn't have caused the decoder to smoke - it's a simple short! Perhaps a spike in the supply but then why not the whole decoder, just the motor circuit. I'd ask Soundtraxx what they make of it. As for losing the detail, consider removing the bodies before sending off.

Mark K


Blackstone C19 tender modification question

George Pierson
 

Hi, all,

I'm new to the list so I hope my question has not been already worked over.  I love my Blackstone C19's.  I use them on my Tuscarora Valley RR, and central PA n.g. pike.  My one complaint is that the stock Blackstone tender is a typical D&RGW higher side tender with an air tank.  Eastern 2-8-0's of this vintage often had smaller lower-sided tenders - which is what I'd like to do to my model.  BUT the decoder board is mounted relatively high, necessitating the use of a high-side tender.  This allows for space underneath for the stock speaker frame.

Here's my question: what do you all think of removing the decoder board, removing the existing speaker frame and speaker, replacing it with a lower profile speaker, then cutting down the four posts holding up the decoder board, and re-attaching the decoder board?  This would allow me to use a lower profile tender shell.  

Your thoughts?

George Pierson


Re: Blackstone K-27

tonyk537
 

And they are very nice cab doors!


Re: Blackstone K-27

Paul Sturtz
 

I had one lead clipped to a tender axle, the other touching the driver wheel tread.  I just move the driver a quarter turn, clean and repeat.  Accidentally slipped off the driver and touched the frame.  I have done it this way for years but old age and shaky hands caused the slip.  Sounds like a trip to Durango is in the future.  Always afraid they will mess up the details like the cab doors and lose them. Thanks for all the advice.
Paul+


Re: Kadee 705'

Ed Tibbetts
 

I installed 705’s on the pilots of my 6 brass HOn3 steam loco’s. I also found them tight using a pick to uncouple with my 714’s. I do have facing siding drops and picks, but the 705/714 work better then the 714’s mounted without draft gear and a spring. Life’s little trade off’s😊🚂


For sale D&RGW books

Doug Boudakian <dboudrrtrain@...>
 


Chama/Cumbres with a little Chili. By Richard Dorman. First Edition . Vol. 3 of 5. Hardbound like new with plastic protective cover. $35.

D&RGW: Durango to Alamosa and Salida . Rocky Mountain Railroads Vol.2. The Collectors Edition. March 2005. Like new with plastic protective cover. $35

In Quest of Colorado Narrow Gauge 1950-51. By Robert MAC Donald. Softcover. 2002 first edition. Like new.124 pages. $15

Never on Wednesday the first decade of the Rio Grande Zephyr. Has plastic protective cover. Dust cover has a few small tears. 1980. Has past owners name inside cover. $12.

Rotary Snowplows on the Cumbres & Toltec softcover by Joseph Hereford jr. . Like new. $10
The Rio Grande Pictorial by Sundance. 1971. Hardcover . 216 pages. Some where along the edges. $18.

Trails Along the Columbine A Colorado high country Anthology.  By Sundance Publishing 1986. Book covers the D&RGW Silverton Branch. Like new with plastic protective cover. $35

Images of America series-9 1/4 x 6 1/2 softcover books. Like new.
Mines around Silverton.128 pages. $15
Silverton and the Alpine loop. 128 pages. $15

Please send private reply if interested. Shipping extra. Doug Boudakian dboudrrtrain@... 


Re: Kadee 705'

Ric Case
 

Bruce: I like the way they look but I am not happy with the way they interface together with the older 714 . I use picks to uncouple and the 705 has such details and is so small ( couple so close) they are hard to get separated.
They mount nicely to my 3 d printed cars they really do look great !
I just don’t think I can replace all 175 cars! Price prohibits! 
You will have to try them for yourself to see how much you like them with your other rolling stock!


Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Dec 5, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Bruce <in2trains@...> wrote:

Just bought some of the new Kadee 705's from TRAINLIFE.COM.  Kadee Quality Products HOn3 Gauge: #705 Medium Centerset Assembled Couplers - On sale , Pkg 4 for $4.24.

Seems pretty good price.  

Bruce Bowie
Huron Ohio


Re: For Sale Pfm K-27

Sam Urrate
 

Does this have blackhead detail?


Kadee 705's

Bruce
 

Just bought some of the new Kadee 705's from TRAINLIFE.COM.  Kadee Quality Products HOn3 Gauge: #705 Medium Centerset Assembled Couplers - On sale , Pkg 4 for $4.24.

Seems pretty good price.  

Bruce Bowie
Huron Ohio


Re: Blackstone K-27

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Stuff happens. It sounds as if the decoders motor output has failed. Having said that I am at a loss to figure out what you could have touched while wheel cleaning that could have done this. Nor why sparks flew. Unless the loco and tender were stripped down.
As always try CV8=8 and recycle the power before anything else. Applying DV volts to the outside of the drawbar pins will prove that the motor still works which I suspect it will. (BTW I bought a spare BS drawbar harness and just plug the locos in whenever they need a oil out. Not too often now.)
Not a super-fry where nothing works and there is a burnt bit on the decoder board, but enough for a return trip to Blackstone for some TLC. You might call them before if only to figure what you touched sent the thing off in the first place.

Mark K
Oxon, England.


Re: Blackstone K-27

bob.meckley@...
 

I fried my Blackstone 453 with static electricity and sent it to Durango for repairs. Back with a new decoder.
Bob Meckley


Re: Blackstone K-27

Don Bergman
 


I always feared touching the other pins with 12V DC as well so....
When applying direct DC to a Blackstone loco when I needed to burn off the oil, I always slipped some stripped wire insulation over the nearby pins. 

Don Bergman




On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, 12:14 PM Paul Sturtz <apa_208@...> wrote:
My best loco #463 is on the deadline due to a stupid mistake by the maintenance supervisor (guess who?) who may have accidentally touched a wire to the wrong spot during wheel cleaning.  There were momentary sparks after which ol' 463 refused to budge.  Sounds and lights only but zero movement.  Did the super fry the decoder?
Name withheld due to shame! 


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