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Re: Custom Brass 2-8-6 Mason Bogie

kevin b
 


mine, which has yet to be painted, wants to short itself out between the trailing (tender) truck and the frame/chassis.
my cure, which I am not at all happy with, but does work, is a piece of scotch tape between the two to act as an insulator.
Kevin.



A good friend of mine, George Pierson, has been twerking this engine of mine for better performance.



Do any of you have experience with this engine and any suggestions to improve it? No need to re-invent the wheel.




LongJohn aka John Massura


Re: Running DC on a DCC Layout

Doug Cummings
 

The RS1 and RS3 are so vastly different in appearance there should be no way to get them confused, 


From: "Russ Norris" <rbnorrisjr@...>
To: HOn3@groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 1:26:21 PM
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Running DC on a DCC Layout

Did a Google search and I believe my RS-3's may actually be RS-1's.  I like 'em anyway. 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 12:15 PM Russ Norris <rbnorrisjr@...> wrote:
You may be right, Paul.  I bought them so many years ago, I can't be sure.  Is there a quick way to distinguish

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 10:40 AM Paul Sturtz <apa_208@...> wrote:
Those RS-3s look a lot like RS-1s.  Smooth runners for sure.


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/


Re: Custom Brass 2-8-6 Mason Bogie

arfio@...
 

John, Steve H had one for sale not long ago for a reasonable price.

Allen Farnsworth

On Nov 11, 2019, at 2:35 PM, John G Massura <jmassura@...> wrote:

A good friend of mine, George Pierson, has been twerking this engine of mine for better performance.

Do any of you have experience with this engine and any suggestions to improve it? No need to re-invent the wheel.

LongJohn aka John Massura

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Re: Coupler thoughts

Mark Lewis
 

🤔  

Mark Lewis

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 1:33 PM burrst54 <burr.stewart@...> wrote:
It's ironic that the 714 is easy to uncouple with a pick because it has slack inside the knuckle, the very slack that drives us crazy when the whole train lurches forward and back, Sergents are easy to uncouple with a magnetic wand (in my experience) but very difficult to couple up, and 705's solve the lurch problem by having so little room inside the knuckle that they're hard to uncouple with a pick. We seem to be going in circles...


Re: Running DC on a DCC Layout

Russ Norris
 

Did a Google search and I believe my RS-3's may actually be RS-1's.  I like 'em anyway. 


On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 12:15 PM Russ Norris <rbnorrisjr@...> wrote:
You may be right, Paul.  I bought them so many years ago, I can't be sure.  Is there a quick way to distinguish

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 10:40 AM Paul Sturtz <apa_208@...> wrote:
Those RS-3s look a lot like RS-1s.  Smooth runners for sure.


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/


Re: Custom Brass 2-8-6 Mason Bogie

jczul36
 

John, The model is painted very nice, but unfortunately, the custom brass is not the one to buy.  The custom brass looks great, but the manufacture foolishly has the front drive rigid to the superstructure.  The front drive should articulate (As on the Balboa or United models) and allow the rear tender area to always be centered between the rails (Since this is where it attaches to the rolling stock).  The way they designed this model makes the rear of the engine swing (Tender area) on curves, derailing the rolling stock coupled behind it.  I’m afraid the model you have will always have to run alone.  You should be on the look out for Balboa’s models.  They perform very well, and all they need is a can motor.
Regards,
jc

On Nov 11, 2019, at 12:35 PM, John G Massura <jmassura@...> wrote:

A good friend of mine, George Pierson, has been twerking this engine of mine for better performance.

Do any of you have experience with this engine and any suggestions to improve it? No need to re-invent the wheel.

LongJohn aka John Massura

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Re: Narrow Gauge Roundhouses

Russ Norris
 

I have a 65' Kitwood turntable as well.  They are fun to build and they look great.  Good choice.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 12:50 PM Stephen Silver via Groups.Io <ssilver996=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have two Kitwood 65ft turntables.  Thank you for your comments.  

S

Life is mostly attitude and timing


On Monday, November 11, 2019, 09:25:05 AM PST, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@...> wrote:


You can get the Sargents roundhouse with more stalls if that style appeals to you. I’ve toyed with the idea of using or kit bashing a Walthers three stall roundhouse kit (https://www.walthers.com/three-stall-roundhouse-kit-14-x-14-1-4-x-4-11-16-quot-35-6-x-36-2-x-11-9cm) which can be expanded up to 36 stalls. It would hold K-36s and K-37s pretty easily, but if your railroad uses smaller locomotives, it would probably overpower them. If I went that route, I would try to reduce the height. A 65’ turntable rather than a Walthers 90’ or 110’ turntable might even get you reasonable leads out front.

On Nov 11, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Stephen Silver via Groups.Io <ssilver996@...> wrote:

Hi all.  I'll start by saying that I am starting a layout from scratch, have high intermediate modeling skills, and have a lot to do so I deem scratch building out of bounds until so much more is done.

I have a plan that has two turntables and two roundhouses.  I have acquired the Sargents kit by Banta for point B as 3 stalls is what I need.  For point A, I am looking for a minimum 5 stall kit, could fit 6. Love the CC Crow stuff, but way more than I can accommodate and a bit pricey with long long waits.  I have looked at the Model Masterpieces Como kit, that could work but I am not really that enthusiastic about it.  I like the SSI Sterling standard gauge kit but feel it would dwarf the narrow gauge gear.

Anyone have any thoughts or ideas on an HOn3 scaled kit?  Thanks. S


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/


Custom Brass 2-8-6 Mason Bogie

John G Massura
 

A good friend of mine, George Pierson, has been twerking this engine of mine for better performance.

Do any of you have experience with this engine and any suggestions to improve it? No need to re-invent the wheel.

LongJohn aka John Massura


Re: Coupler thoughts

burrst54
 

It's ironic that the 714 is easy to uncouple with a pick because it has slack inside the knuckle, the very slack that drives us crazy when the whole train lurches forward and back, Sergents are easy to uncouple with a magnetic wand (in my experience) but very difficult to couple up, and 705's solve the lurch problem by having so little room inside the knuckle that they're hard to uncouple with a pick. We seem to be going in circles...


Re: Narrow Gauge Roundhouses

Stephen Silver
 

I have two Kitwood 65ft turntables.  Thank you for your comments.  

S

Life is mostly attitude and timing


On Monday, November 11, 2019, 09:25:05 AM PST, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@...> wrote:


You can get the Sargents roundhouse with more stalls if that style appeals to you. I’ve toyed with the idea of using or kit bashing a Walthers three stall roundhouse kit (https://www.walthers.com/three-stall-roundhouse-kit-14-x-14-1-4-x-4-11-16-quot-35-6-x-36-2-x-11-9cm) which can be expanded up to 36 stalls. It would hold K-36s and K-37s pretty easily, but if your railroad uses smaller locomotives, it would probably overpower them. If I went that route, I would try to reduce the height. A 65’ turntable rather than a Walthers 90’ or 110’ turntable might even get you reasonable leads out front.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


On Nov 11, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Stephen Silver via Groups.Io <ssilver996@...> wrote:

Hi all.  I'll start by saying that I am starting a layout from scratch, have high intermediate modeling skills, and have a lot to do so I deem scratch building out of bounds until so much more is done.

I have a plan that has two turntables and two roundhouses.  I have acquired the Sargents kit by Banta for point B as 3 stalls is what I need.  For point A, I am looking for a minimum 5 stall kit, could fit 6. Love the CC Crow stuff, but way more than I can accommodate and a bit pricey with long long waits.  I have looked at the Model Masterpieces Como kit, that could work but I am not really that enthusiastic about it.  I like the SSI Sterling standard gauge kit but feel it would dwarf the narrow gauge gear.

Anyone have any thoughts or ideas on an HOn3 scaled kit?  Thanks. S


Re: Narrow Gauge Roundhouses

Jim Marlett
 

You can get the Sargents roundhouse with more stalls if that style appeals to you. I’ve toyed with the idea of using or kit bashing a Walthers three stall roundhouse kit (https://www.walthers.com/three-stall-roundhouse-kit-14-x-14-1-4-x-4-11-16-quot-35-6-x-36-2-x-11-9cm) which can be expanded up to 36 stalls. It would hold K-36s and K-37s pretty easily, but if your railroad uses smaller locomotives, it would probably overpower them. If I went that route, I would try to reduce the height. A 65’ turntable rather than a Walthers 90’ or 110’ turntable might even get you reasonable leads out front.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/
http://jimmarlett.zenfolio.com/


On Nov 11, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Stephen Silver via Groups.Io <ssilver996@...> wrote:

Hi all.  I'll start by saying that I am starting a layout from scratch, have high intermediate modeling skills, and have a lot to do so I deem scratch building out of bounds until so much more is done.

I have a plan that has two turntables and two roundhouses.  I have acquired the Sargents kit by Banta for point B as 3 stalls is what I need.  For point A, I am looking for a minimum 5 stall kit, could fit 6. Love the CC Crow stuff, but way more than I can accommodate and a bit pricey with long long waits.  I have looked at the Model Masterpieces Como kit, that could work but I am not really that enthusiastic about it.  I like the SSI Sterling standard gauge kit but feel it would dwarf the narrow gauge gear.

Anyone have any thoughts or ideas on an HOn3 scaled kit?  Thanks. S


Re: Running DC on a DCC Layout

Russ Norris
 

You may be right, Paul.  I bought them so many years ago, I can't be sure.  Is there a quick way to distinguish


On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 10:40 AM Paul Sturtz <apa_208@...> wrote:
Those RS-3s look a lot like RS-1s.  Smooth runners for sure.


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/


Re: Running DC on a DCC Layout

Climax@...
 

That's why they are designated RS......Real Smooth!

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Sturtz
Sent: Nov 11, 2019 10:40 AM
To: Reply To Group
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Running DC on a DCC Layout

Those RS-3s look a lot like RS-1s.  Smooth runners for sure.


Re: Running DC on a DCC Layout

Paul Sturtz
 

Those RS-3s look a lot like RS-1s.  Smooth runners for sure.


Narrow Gauge Roundhouses

Stephen Silver
 

Hi all.  I'll start by saying that I am starting a layout from scratch, have high intermediate modeling skills, and have a lot to do so I deem scratch building out of bounds until so much more is done.

I have a plan that has two turntables and two roundhouses.  I have acquired the Sargents kit by Banta for point B as 3 stalls is what I need.  For point A, I am looking for a minimum 5 stall kit, could fit 6. Love the CC Crow stuff, but way more than I can accommodate and a bit pricey with long long waits.  I have looked at the Model Masterpieces Como kit, that could work but I am not really that enthusiastic about it.  I like the SSI Sterling standard gauge kit but feel it would dwarf the narrow gauge gear.

Anyone have any thoughts or ideas on an HOn3 scaled kit?  Thanks. S


Running DC on a DCC Layout

Russ Norris
 

Some of you know that I have a standard (HO) gauge loop that runs in the background behind my EBT narrow gauge railroad.  It is a kind of moving backdrop that connects with the dual gauge yard in the fictional town of Blacklog.  I had an HO gauge Bowser GP-7 with sound pulling a long line of coal hoppers continuously while the real action is in the foreground with my EBT operation.  Well, the GP-7 gave up the ghost this week, and my work bench is already full of bad order equipment I am working on.  In the meantime I wondered how I could run the standard gauge train without a working locomotive.  Then I remembered all those old DC engines in a display case on the wall.  They were beautiful but hadn't been run in maybe 15 years.  But what the heck!  I disconnected the loop, which runs on its own power circuit, and connected it to an old MRC power pack.  Sadly, not all my old DC engines were up to the job, but a pair of Kato RS-3s revved right up with incredible pulling power.  I even played with MU-ing the RS-3s just for fun,  Here are links for some videos I posted on You Tube showing the two engines working in and around the town of Blacklog on my layout. 

https://youtu.be/8eDPJd1YEKQ

https://youtu.be/7PArcIIEQrU

https://youtu.be/iLiAyMl1SOE

https://youtu.be/4E2OJnkIJ34


I was so pleased with the look of these two early diesels I am thinking of adding decoders and running them as a regular consist.  Not sure if there is enough room inside of them for a sound decoder and speaker, but a small mobile decoder should fit.
--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/


Re: BS K-27 motors?

NarrowMinded1
 

I heard if you spray some CRC 2-26 in at the bearings and run it until it poofs a wisp of smoke that will fix the problem. Any truth in that?
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Nathan Kline
Tiadaghton Valley Railroad & Coal Co.
McConnellsburg, PA
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/TiadaghtonValleyRailroad/
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Re: Coupler thoughts

Mark Lewis
 

David:

Thanks for your reply. I wanted to clarify the source of suitable coupler boxes was not Sergent, any longer, but rather Accurail.

Mark

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019, 5:04 PM David Varney <vriderclan@...> wrote:
Mark, yes the 1031 boxs. They used to be supplied with the sergents couplers. I really like these boxes as you con cut them to  needed length with xuron rail cutters and depending on how the truck/bolster setup is you can leave the lid off the box.  I have found that a 17 radius is doable on a 30' car with full underbody detail. David v 


Re: Coupler thoughts

David Varney
 

Mark, yes the 1031 boxs. They used to be supplied with the sergents couplers. I really like these boxes as you con cut them to  needed length with xuron rail cutters and depending on how the truck/bolster setup is you can leave the lid off the box.  I have found that a 17 radius is doable on a 30' car with full underbody detail. David v 


Re: Coupler thoughts

Mike Van Hove
 

Some of Sergents couplers do come with Draft Gear Boxes.  I’m not sure, but I think they are Accurail.

Mike Van Hove

On Nov 9, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Mark Lewis <narrowrails12@...> wrote:

David:

I did not know Sergent was supplying draft gear boxes.  Do you mean the Accurail #1031 draft gear boxes, that readily accept the Sergent couplers?

Mark Lewis
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.


On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:31 PM David Varney <vriderclan@...> wrote:
I have never liked anything about the 714 couplers, thelooks,the box,the assembly,the slinky, etc. So when Duncan brought some sergeants to a club meeting one time years ago  I liked them so well i,ve done 2 bulk packs each of en87,s and the Sharon's. The sergeants coupler box allows you to replace 714 boxes fairly easily something the 705s do not do at all well. The 705s mate up well with the sergeants in looks and action. I think the 705s indicate a welcome change coming in the industry. I would like to see the 705 with a thicker shank in a714 style box for a easier coupler upgrade of older equipment,  also would like to see one with a sergents style shank and box. So yes, 705s or a variant would be welcome on new manufacturing\
. David varney 

 



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