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Re: D&RGW book blow out

claneon30
 

Softbound. For just $12, well worth adding to the collection. 

Had my copy for years.

Chris Lane - Editor HOn3 Annual



On Aug 30, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Doug Boudakian <dboudrrtrain@...> wrote:

Hardbound, softbound? How many books?
Doug


On Aug 30, 2019, at 6:03 AM, M2fq via Groups.Io <M2fq@...> wrote:

All

have some Robert McDonald In Quest of Colorado Narrow Gauge - first person account of several trips including the last San Juan.

All the photos - including color, taken by the author.

BLOW OUT

$5.00 per book

$7.00 Priority mail postage

www.paypal.com

Gary Kohler
330-719-0264
m2fq@...

Re: D&RGW book blow out

M2fq@...
 

at is possible he got around!



Gary Kohler
m2fq@...
330-719-0264

In a message dated 8/30/2019 10:08:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, rbnorrisjr@... writes:

I do believe Bob McDonald may have visited the East Broad Top many years ago. In the living room of Pogue Station -- a house that served as a flag stop for the EBT just south of Orbisonia and where EBT fans can stay for pennies -- there is a photo of McDonald commemorating a visit when he stayed at the station way back when.  I may have a photo of it.

Re: D&RGW book blow out

Russ Norris
 

I do believe Bob McDonald may have visited the East Broad Top many years ago. In the living room of Pogue Station -- a house that served as a flag stop for the EBT just south of Orbisonia and where EBT fans can stay for pennies -- there is a photo of McDonald commemorating a visit when he stayed at the station way back when.  I may have a photo of it.


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:52 AM Doug Boudakian <dboudrrtrain@...> wrote:
Hardbound, softbound? How many books?
Doug


On Aug 30, 2019, at 6:03 AM, M2fq via Groups.Io <M2fq@...> wrote:

All

have some Robert McDonald In Quest of Colorado Narrow Gauge - first person account of several trips including the last San Juan.

All the photos - including color, taken by the author.

BLOW OUT

$5.00 per book

$7.00 Priority mail postage

www.paypal.com

Gary Kohler
330-719-0264
m2fq@...


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/

Re: D&RGW book blow out

Doug Boudakian <dboudrrtrain@...>
 

Hardbound, softbound? How many books?
Doug


On Aug 30, 2019, at 6:03 AM, M2fq via Groups.Io <M2fq@...> wrote:

All

have some Robert McDonald In Quest of Colorado Narrow Gauge - first person account of several trips including the last San Juan.

All the photos - including color, taken by the author.

BLOW OUT

$5.00 per book

$7.00 Priority mail postage

www.paypal.com

Gary Kohler
330-719-0264
m2fq@...

D&RGW book blow out

M2fq@...
 

All

have some Robert McDonald In Quest of Colorado Narrow Gauge - first person account of several trips including the last San Juan.

All the photos - including color, taken by the author.

BLOW OUT

$5.00 per book

$7.00 Priority mail postage

www.paypal.com

Gary Kohler
330-719-0264
m2fq@...

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Joseph Melhorn
 

Hi Pete,

Give me a day or three and I’ll snap some pics and upload them for you.

Thanks for the interest.

Joe Melhorn

Sahuarita, AZ

 

Re: D&RGW Book Recommendation?

ColoRyan
 

Thank you all for your suggestions. I guess I have my work cut out for me!

Re: Shinohara HOn3 turnouts

Risrwy@...
 

email sent, thank you.
--
Paul Buhrke
Recreating the 14th. Subdivision
D&RGW Salida Division in 1929

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Pete C
 

Joe
  Do you have any pictures of your setup.  Your details are great but a few pictures would help make it a bit clearer, at least for me.  😉

On Aug 29, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Mark Lewis <narrowrails12@...> wrote:

Joe:

Thanks for the tip and detailed info.

Mark Lewis
narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 12:38 PM Joseph Melhorn <toyman@...> wrote:

I realize I’m chiming in late (as usual) but another source is Drillman1 on eBay:

 

https://www.ebay.com/usr/drillman1

 

I’ve purchased a lot of carbide drill bits, end mills and other various cutters from him over the years. I think his prices are reasonable for the products he offers. Service is excellent.

Many moons ago I shared on one of the lists a low speed alternative to using a Dremel tool to hand drill holes for grab irons using twist drills. It consisted of using a General Tools Miniature powered screwdriver (Lowes Item # 78618 - on sale now for $9.99 thru 11/01/2019), some hex wrench stock (4,0mm hex wrench) and a micro drill chuck with collet set and a couple of grub screws. Since I built mine, I’ve noticed that the brass micro chuck sets now range in size from 0,5mm to 3,0mm - .0196” to .118” (eBay# 192671709836). When I acquired mine they went from 0,0mm to 3,0mm. There is a universal 0,3mm to 3,5mm (.0118” to .1378”) adjustable micro chuck (eBay# 191949240231) that could be used, too. There is still a way to get to zero closing. It requires another mini mandrel with a 0 to 1,2mm (0 to .0472”) capacity (eBay# 200866133453). This mandrel has a 3/32” (2,381mm (.0937”)) shank. You would need to trim ~1” (25,4mm) off the shank to fit in the micro chuck collet. An added bonus of using the adjustable micro chuck instead of the chuck w/collet set is that it opens wide enough to accommodate the 1/8” (3,175mm) carbide PC Board drill bits.

Here’s the procedure: Use an abrasive cutoff disc and cut a piece of the hex wrench about 1-1 1/4" long. Measure across the "points" on the 4.0mm hex wrench. I measured a screwdriver bit from my Micro Screwdriver and it measures ~.175" Take the set screw out of the chuck and drill out the hole to ~.175". Closest is a #17 at .173 or a #16 at .177". If you have a lathe or access to a lathe it's pretty simple. It can be done on a drill press if you have a vise that you can clamp the chuck into. Once the hole is drilled if you used the #17 drill bit, line up a flat on the piece of hex wrench that you cut off and dressed, with the hole for the set screw and press the cut piece in until it is about 1/8"past the set screw hole. Run the set screw in and you're done. I've made several of these for myself and friends, under $20.00 for the whole thing. Yeah, I know it’s brass and will eventually wear out, but I'm betting you'll drill several tens of thousands of grab iron holes before that happens. They're so cheap that you should buy several and you can get at least three pieces out of the 4.0mm hex wrench. Make three or four of them and keep your most used bits chucked up and its quick to change bit sizes for that project you're working on. I made six up for my workbench.

Joe Melhorn

Sahuarita, AZ

 

Re: D&RGW Book Recommendation?

claneon30
 

Second this. Most complete and accessible for research.

Chris Lane - Editor HOn3 Annual



On Aug 29, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Earl Knoob <earlk489@...> wrote:

I find my copy of Sundance Books "Rio Grande - to the Pacific", my "go to" book when I need information.  It gives a year by year synopsis of corporate history, lines constructed, lines abandoned, locomotives acquired, etc.

Re: D&RGW Book Recommendation?

Earl Knoob
 

I find my copy of Sundance Books "Rio Grande - to the Pacific", my "go to" book when I need information.  It gives a year by year synopsis of corporate history, lines constructed, lines abandoned, locomotives acquired, etc.

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Mark Lewis
 

Joe:

Thanks for the tip and detailed info.

Mark Lewis
narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 12:38 PM Joseph Melhorn <toyman@...> wrote:

I realize I’m chiming in late (as usual) but another source is Drillman1 on eBay:

 

https://www.ebay.com/usr/drillman1

 

I’ve purchased a lot of carbide drill bits, end mills and other various cutters from him over the years. I think his prices are reasonable for the products he offers. Service is excellent.

Many moons ago I shared on one of the lists a low speed alternative to using a Dremel tool to hand drill holes for grab irons using twist drills. It consisted of using a General Tools Miniature powered screwdriver (Lowes Item # 78618 - on sale now for $9.99 thru 11/01/2019), some hex wrench stock (4,0mm hex wrench) and a micro drill chuck with collet set and a couple of grub screws. Since I built mine, I’ve noticed that the brass micro chuck sets now range in size from 0,5mm to 3,0mm - .0196” to .118” (eBay# 192671709836). When I acquired mine they went from 0,0mm to 3,0mm. There is a universal 0,3mm to 3,5mm (.0118” to .1378”) adjustable micro chuck (eBay# 191949240231) that could be used, too. There is still a way to get to zero closing. It requires another mini mandrel with a 0 to 1,2mm (0 to .0472”) capacity (eBay# 200866133453). This mandrel has a 3/32” (2,381mm (.0937”)) shank. You would need to trim ~1” (25,4mm) off the shank to fit in the micro chuck collet. An added bonus of using the adjustable micro chuck instead of the chuck w/collet set is that it opens wide enough to accommodate the 1/8” (3,175mm) carbide PC Board drill bits.

Here’s the procedure: Use an abrasive cutoff disc and cut a piece of the hex wrench about 1-1 1/4" long. Measure across the "points" on the 4.0mm hex wrench. I measured a screwdriver bit from my Micro Screwdriver and it measures ~.175" Take the set screw out of the chuck and drill out the hole to ~.175". Closest is a #17 at .173 or a #16 at .177". If you have a lathe or access to a lathe it's pretty simple. It can be done on a drill press if you have a vise that you can clamp the chuck into. Once the hole is drilled if you used the #17 drill bit, line up a flat on the piece of hex wrench that you cut off and dressed, with the hole for the set screw and press the cut piece in until it is about 1/8"past the set screw hole. Run the set screw in and you're done. I've made several of these for myself and friends, under $20.00 for the whole thing. Yeah, I know it’s brass and will eventually wear out, but I'm betting you'll drill several tens of thousands of grab iron holes before that happens. They're so cheap that you should buy several and you can get at least three pieces out of the 4.0mm hex wrench. Make three or four of them and keep your most used bits chucked up and its quick to change bit sizes for that project you're working on. I made six up for my workbench.

Joe Melhorn

Sahuarita, AZ

 

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Joseph Melhorn
 

I realize I’m chiming in late (as usual) but another source is Drillman1 on eBay:

 

https://www.ebay.com/usr/drillman1

 

I’ve purchased a lot of carbide drill bits, end mills and other various cutters from him over the years. I think his prices are reasonable for the products he offers. Service is excellent.

Many moons ago I shared on one of the lists a low speed alternative to using a Dremel tool to hand drill holes for grab irons using twist drills. It consisted of using a General Tools Miniature powered screwdriver (Lowes Item # 78618 - on sale now for $9.99 thru 11/01/2019), some hex wrench stock (4,0mm hex wrench) and a micro drill chuck with collet set and a couple of grub screws. Since I built mine, I’ve noticed that the brass micro chuck sets now range in size from 0,5mm to 3,0mm - .0196” to .118” (eBay# 192671709836). When I acquired mine they went from 0,0mm to 3,0mm. There is a universal 0,3mm to 3,5mm (.0118” to .1378”) adjustable micro chuck (eBay# 191949240231) that could be used, too. There is still a way to get to zero closing. It requires another mini mandrel with a 0 to 1,2mm (0 to .0472”) capacity (eBay# 200866133453). This mandrel has a 3/32” (2,381mm (.0937”)) shank. You would need to trim ~1” (25,4mm) off the shank to fit in the micro chuck collet. An added bonus of using the adjustable micro chuck instead of the chuck w/collet set is that it opens wide enough to accommodate the 1/8” (3,175mm) carbide PC Board drill bits.

Here’s the procedure: Use an abrasive cutoff disc and cut a piece of the hex wrench about 1-1 1/4" long. Measure across the "points" on the 4.0mm hex wrench. I measured a screwdriver bit from my Micro Screwdriver and it measures ~.175" Take the set screw out of the chuck and drill out the hole to ~.175". Closest is a #17 at .173 or a #16 at .177". If you have a lathe or access to a lathe it's pretty simple. It can be done on a drill press if you have a vise that you can clamp the chuck into. Once the hole is drilled if you used the #17 drill bit, line up a flat on the piece of hex wrench that you cut off and dressed, with the hole for the set screw and press the cut piece in until it is about 1/8"past the set screw hole. Run the set screw in and you're done. I've made several of these for myself and friends, under $20.00 for the whole thing. Yeah, I know it’s brass and will eventually wear out, but I'm betting you'll drill several tens of thousands of grab iron holes before that happens. They're so cheap that you should buy several and you can get at least three pieces out of the 4.0mm hex wrench. Make three or four of them and keep your most used bits chucked up and its quick to change bit sizes for that project you're working on. I made six up for my workbench.

Joe Melhorn

Sahuarita, AZ

 

Re: D&RGW Book Recommendation?

Steven Haworth
 

I've got a pretty complete listing of books here, w/ descriptions -
 
- Steve Haworth
RGS history - http://www.rgsrr.info/
Blog - http://rgsrr.blogspot.com/               FB - https://www.facebook.com/stevesrgs/


On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:44 AM ColoRyan <rhickman213@...> wrote:
I'm (mostly) new to the history of the D&RGW. What recommendations do the anointed have for a one-volume history book on the D&RGW?

Second question, is there a good narrow gauge only D&RGW book?

Many thanks,
Ryan

Re: Shinohara HOn3 turnouts

Mark Lewis
 

Gary:

Most HOn3 modelers use either Mico-Engineering, Peco or Fastracks(hand laid) turnouts. 
Shinohara turnouts are old school construction and are no longer in production. 

Paul asked a reasonable question. 

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 9:46 AM <Climax@...> wrote:
I got some used L & R Code 70 Dual gauges switches I will probably never use.
Mule,  Climax at mindspring dot com

-----Original Message-----
From: Risrwy@...
Sent: Aug 29, 2019 9:28 AM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Shinohara HOn3 turnouts

Gary:

Any dual gauge code 70's?
--
Paul Buhrke
Recreating the 14th. Subdivision
D&RGW Salida Division in 1929

Re: Shinohara HOn3 turnouts

Climax@...
 

I got some used L & R Code 70 Dual gauges switches I will probably never use.
Mule,  Climax at mindspring dot com

-----Original Message-----
From: Risrwy@...
Sent: Aug 29, 2019 9:28 AM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Shinohara HOn3 turnouts

Gary:

Any dual gauge code 70's?
--
Paul Buhrke
Recreating the 14th. Subdivision
D&RGW Salida Division in 1929

Re: Shinohara HOn3 turnouts

Risrwy@...
 

Gary:

Any dual gauge code 70's?
--
Paul Buhrke
Recreating the 14th. Subdivision
D&RGW Salida Division in 1929

Re: Bridge 327-A

Risrwy@...
 

Don:
Sort of. The branch runs from Ouray Jct. about ten feet overall. However there is Ridgway and Ouray packed in sort of a narrow gauge time-saver.
I do have #329/330 & #320/319 running the branch though.
--
Paul Buhrke
Recreating the 14th. Subdivision
D&RGW Salida Division in 1929

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Russ Norris
 

Great idea, Mark.  I am about to mount Tichy grab irons on an EBT house car.  I will definitely use this technique.


On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 6:54 PM Dusty <dustburm@q.com> wrote:
Drilling the end grab holes isn't quite as much fun as drilling the holes in the sides. This is how I try to hold the body while drilling by hand.

Dusty Burman


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Dusty
 

Drilling the end grab holes isn't quite as much fun as drilling the holes in the sides. This is how I try to hold the body while drilling by hand.

Dusty Burman