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Re: Bridge 327-A

Risrwy@...
 

Don:
Sort of. The branch runs from Ouray Jct. about ten feet overall. However there is Ridgway and Ouray packed in sort of a narrow gauge time-saver.
I do have #329/330 & #320/319 running the branch though.
--
Paul Buhrke
Recreating the 14th. Subdivision
D&RGW Salida Division in 1929

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Russ Norris
 

Great idea, Mark.  I am about to mount Tichy grab irons on an EBT house car.  I will definitely use this technique.


On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 6:54 PM Dusty <dustburm@q.com> wrote:
Drilling the end grab holes isn't quite as much fun as drilling the holes in the sides. This is how I try to hold the body while drilling by hand.

Dusty Burman


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Dusty
 

Drilling the end grab holes isn't quite as much fun as drilling the holes in the sides. This is how I try to hold the body while drilling by hand.

Dusty Burman

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Climax@...
 

I see all these issue with properly locating grab irons and wonder.  Back in the mid 1960's I made a jig out of a piece of cardstock and a small section of wood.  I used a drafting pencil to locate the horizontal locations and vertical locations where the lines crossed.  All I did was drill holes in it and I have been using it for the last 50 years.  I have never had any one question grab iron locations.  All I do it slap the jig up agains the end of the car, slide it up tight to the roof line or trip board, hold it and start drilling.  When I'm done I insert grab irons and its done.  I turn the jig over and use the same techniques at the other end for the single grab iron.  Simple and effective.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Dusty
Sent: Aug 28, 2019 11:39 AM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Drill bits for Grab Irons

Robert,

Thanks for suggesting Unique Master Models. John Vojtech is an excellent modeler and great to do business with. I an using one of his scribes (SCR02) to clear the remnants of the door protector strap on the Railline box I'm working on. It's perfect for clearing the scribed siding groves. This car is a great big salvage job. Prior owner started car by drilling huge, crooked, misaligned grab iron holes. I'm trying to square up, fill up and improve the grab iron mounting holes.

The other tool from UMM I love is the JLC saw. Excellent for styrene. Makes Xacto and Jeweler's saws results look like chain saw cuts. Great for post assembly cuts.

Pulled the trigger on #83 and #86 jobber bits from Drill America (via Homely Despot). We will see.......

Dusty Burman

Re: Bridge 327-A

Don Bergman
 

Paul,

Nice work, this the first model I have ever seen on this bridge.   Do you model the Ouray Branch?


Don Bergman

Re: D&RGW Book Recommendation?

Mike Williams
 

The best single source history is Robert Athearn’s The Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad, also published as Rebel of the Rockies. 


On Aug 28, 2019, at 10:44 AM, ColoRyan <rhickman213@...> wrote:

I'm (mostly) new to the history of the D&RGW. What recommendations do the anointed have for a one-volume history book on the D&RGW?

Second question, is there a good narrow gauge only D&RGW book?

Many thanks,
Ryan

Re: Bridge 327-A

bob.meckley@...
 

Looks good. You do need brass I beams to hold up such a long span. I built a model of the present bridge at Cimarron but used the end deck bridges as you did. Always a spectacular site on any layout.

D&RGW Book Recommendation?

ColoRyan
 

I'm (mostly) new to the history of the D&RGW. What recommendations do the anointed have for a one-volume history book on the D&RGW?

Second question, is there a good narrow gauge only D&RGW book?

Many thanks,
Ryan

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Dusty
 

Robert,

Thanks for suggesting Unique Master Models. John Vojtech is an excellent modeler and great to do business with. I an using one of his scribes (SCR02) to clear the remnants of the door protector strap on the Railline box I'm working on. It's perfect for clearing the scribed siding groves. This car is a great big salvage job. Prior owner started car by drilling huge, crooked, misaligned grab iron holes. I'm trying to square up, fill up and improve the grab iron mounting holes.

The other tool from UMM I love is the JLC saw. Excellent for styrene. Makes Xacto and Jeweler's saws results look like chain saw cuts. Great for post assembly cuts.

Pulled the trigger on #83 and #86 jobber bits from Drill America (via Homely Despot). We will see.......

Dusty Burman

Re: Bridge 327-A

Mike Conder
 

Nicely done!

Mike Conder

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:34 PM <Risrwy@...> wrote:
It's been a busy month for the layout.
Bridge is all plastic and scratch built.
There are two brass I-beams on the main span.
Have to make up the supports and end caps.
--
Paul Buhrke
Recreating the 14th. Subdivision
D&RGW Salida Division in 1929

Shinohara HOn3 turnouts

M2fq@...
 

All

I have 19 HOn3 turnouts as follows

2 wyes

3 #6 LH

1 #6 RH

5 #4 RH

8 #4 LH

$350.00 for all postage paid

or $20.00 each

www.paypal.com

Gary Kohler
330-719-0264
m2fq@...

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Mark Lewis
 

Good prices, but many items have no stock. 🤔 

Mark Lewis 
narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Robert Bell
 

Have not used these people yet, but worth a look...

Rob Bell 
Waynesville, NC

Re: Bridge 327-A

Ric Case
 

Paul it really looks good painted. 
It will be great to see the area with scenery! Keep me posted on the progress. I enjoy seeing other things people are doing even though it’s not EBT. 😂 

Ric Case 
EBT Modeler 
Hamilton Ohio 
1-513-375-7694

On Aug 27, 2019, at 7:34 PM, Risrwy@... wrote:

It's been a busy month for the layout.
Bridge is all plastic and scratch built.
There are two brass I-beams on the main span.
Have to make up the supports and end caps.
--
Paul Buhrke
Recreating the 14th. Subdivision
D&RGW Salida Division in 1929
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Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Mike Van Hove
 

Dusty,

Try this link, he should have anything you need.


I hope this helps,

Mike Van Hove


Columbia, MO

On Aug 27, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Dusty <dustburm@q.com> wrote:

I use #86 bits for .010 grabs. I've got 2 or 3 bits left and need to get a few more. My local tool company moved to who knows where. I found 2 styles on Ebay. Jobber shafts and those with 1/8 shafts.
They also have a plastic stop ring. Probably intended for cnc.

Anyone have an opinion on which type of bit to use for drilling plastic? My experience is with the jobber style but maybe the other style has advantages?

Dusty Burman 

Re: Drill bits for Grab Irons

Dale Buxton
 

Dusty, 

those must be the ones from Drill Bit City. I use them and like them a lot. They are very sharp and cut plastics great!

They have a high carbide content so they are more brittle. But they cut sooooo nice. They also come in really great storage/shipping containers.

 The guy usually has some re-sharpened versions for a slightly lower price point.

Dale B



On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 17:26 Dusty <dustburm@q.com> wrote:
I use #86 bits for .010 grabs. I've got 2 or 3 bits left and need to get a few more. My local tool company moved to who knows where. I found 2 styles on Ebay. Jobber shafts and those with 1/8 shafts.
They also have a plastic stop ring. Probably intended for cnc.

Anyone have an opinion on which type of bit to use for drilling plastic? My experience is with the jobber style but maybe the other style has advantages?

Dusty Burman 

Bridge 327-A

Risrwy@...
 

It's been a busy month for the layout.
Bridge is all plastic and scratch built.
There are two brass I-beams on the main span.
Have to make up the supports and end caps.
--
Paul Buhrke
Recreating the 14th. Subdivision
D&RGW Salida Division in 1929

Drill bits for Grab Irons

Dusty
 

I use #86 bits for .010 grabs. I've got 2 or 3 bits left and need to get a few more. My local tool company moved to who knows where. I found 2 styles on Ebay. Jobber shafts and those with 1/8 shafts.
They also have a plastic stop ring. Probably intended for cnc.

Anyone have an opinion on which type of bit to use for drilling plastic? My experience is with the jobber style but maybe the other style has advantages?

Dusty Burman 

HOn3 Locomotives and rolling stock for sale revised list 4

Brinton Jones
 

                                   

ALL BLACKSTONE ARE IN ORIGINAL BOXES

BLACKSTONE LOCOMOTIVES

D&RGW NO 462 K27 2-8-2 Royal Gorge herald green boiler P.N. B310105-S $350.00 Plus shipping

D&RG NO 345 C19 2-8-0 MOVIE SCHEME P.N. B310208-S ORANGE & SILVER, BUMBLE BEE, $370.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW NO 345 C19 2-8-0 Flying Rio Grande herald P.N. B310201-S $325.00 Plus shipping missing wind deflector right side.

All locos have about two hours run time.

Most Blackstone cars are new never run

STOCK CARS

D&RGW 30’ STOCK CAR NO 5578 Flying Grande herald P.N.B34027 $45.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ STOCK CAR NO 5687 Flying Grande herald P.N.B3401W $45.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ STOCK CAR NO 5669 Flying Grande herald P.N.B3408 $45.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ STOCK CAR NO 5722 Flying Grande herald P.N.B34013W $45.00 Plus shipping

TANK CARS

UTLX Frameless tank car NO 55347 GRAMPS P.N.B340655 $45.00 Plus shipping

UTLX Frameless tank car NO 55190 GRAMPS P.N.B340654 $45.00 Plus shipping

30’ BOX CARS

D&RGW 30’ Box car Flying Grade herald NO 3468 P.N. B34018 ORANGE CAR SILVER TOP $65.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ REEFERS

D&RGW 30’ Reefer Royal Gorge Rout herald NO 43 P.N. 340808 $55.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ Reefer Royal Gorge Rout herald NO 32 P.N. 340807 $55.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ FLAT CAR

D&RGW 30’ Flat car Weathered D&RGW NO 6023 P.N.340307W $35.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ Flat car Weathered D&RGW NO 6033 P.N.340308W $35.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ Flat car Weathered D&RGW NO 6057 P.N.340310W 2EA $35.00ea Plus shipping

RGS 30’ Flat car Rio Grande Southern NO 0616 P.N.340316 $35.00 Plus shipping

BRASS CAR

PFM D&RGW Pagosa Junction car Factory paint Car No 215 Blackstone trucks $200.00 Plus shipping

UNBUILT KITS

PRECISION SCALE D&RGW 30’ REEFER Plastic kit w brass trucks $25.00 Plus shipping

GRANDT LINE D&RGW 30’ Flat car Hon3 KIT #5186 $20.00 Plus shipping

Campbell #357Coaling Station $50.00 Plus shipping

Campbell #404 Quincy Traveling crane $25.00 Plus shipping

PHOTOS ON REQUEST

NO PAYPAL

Check or USPS Money Order only

BRINTON JONES    

bmrjones@...

30993 HUNTWOOD AVE # 206

HAYWARD CA 94544-7000

Re: HOn3 Locomotives and rolling stock for sale revised list 2

Brinton Jones
 

RUSS:
NOT YET ITS BETWEEN OAKLAND AND HAYWARD A DISTANCE OF ABOUT 10 MILES, PROBABLY TODAY.
BRINTON

On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, 4:22:49 AM PDT, Russ Norris <rbnorrisjr@...> wrote:


Good morning, Brinton.  I hope you received my check by now.

Russ Norris

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 3:18 PM Brinton Jones <bmrjones@...> wrote:

                                                   

 

ALL BLACKSTONE ARE IN ORIGINAL BOXES

BLACKSTONE LOCOMOTIVES

D&RGW NO 462 K27 2-8-2 Royal Gorge herald green boiler P.N. B310105-S $350.00 Plus shipping

D&RG NO 345 C19 2-8-0 MOVIE SCHEME P.N. B310208-S ORANGE & SILVER $375.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW NO 345 C19 2-8-0 Flying Rio Grande herald P.N. B310201-S $325.00 Plus shipping missing wind deflector right side.

All locos have about two hours run time.

 

Most Blackstone cars are new never run

STOCK CARS

D&RGW 30’ STOCK CAR NO 5578 Flying Grande herald P.N.B34027 $45.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ STOCK CAR NO 5687 Flying Grande herald P.N.B3401W $45.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ STOCK CAR NO 5669 Flying Grande herald P.N.B3408 $45.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ STOCK CAR NO 5722 Flying Grande herald P.N.B34013W $45.00 Plus shipping

 

TANK CARS

UTLX Frameless tank car NO 55347 GRAMPS P.N.B340655 $45.00 Plus shipping

UTLX Frameless tank car NO 55190 GRAMPS P.N.B340654 $45.00 Plus shipping

UTLX Narrow frame tank car NO 12812 P.N.B340607 $45.00 Plus shipping

Narrow frame tank car NO 64 CYCX P.N.B340611 $45.00 Plus shipping

 

HIGH SIDE GON

D&RGW High side gondola weathered Moffat tunnel herald NO 9325 P.N. B340415 $45.00 Plus shipping

 

30’ BOX CARS

D&RGW 30’ Box car Moffat tunnel herald NO 3146 P.N. B340128 $45.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ Box car no herald NO. 3303 P.N. B340129 $45.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ Box car Flying Grade herald NO 3468 P.N. B34018 ORANGE CAR SILVER TOP $65.00 Plus shipping

 

D&RGW 30’ REEFERS

D&RGW 30’ Reefer Royal Gorge Rout herald NO 43 P.N. 340808 $55.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ Reefer Royal Gorge Rout herald NO 32 P.N. 340807 $55.00 Plus shipping

 

D&RGW 30’ FLAT CAR

D&RGW 30’ Flat car Weathered D&RGW NO 6023 P.N.340307W $40.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ Flat car Weathered D&RGW NO 6033 P.N.340308W $40.00 Plus shipping

D&RGW 30’ Flat car Weathered D&RGW NO 6057 P.N.340310W 2EA $40.00ea Plus shipping

RGS 30’ Flat car Rio Grande Southern NO 0616 P.N.340316 $40.00 Plus shipping

 

CUSTOM BUILT CARS

30’ Idler flatcar D&RGW 6749 Blackstone trucks $25.00 Plus shipping

MODEL RAILROAD GENERAL STORE

D&RGW Short RPO/BAGGAGE CAR NO 61-2-3 Complete Car no number Blackstone trucks $70.00 Plus shipping

 

BRASS CARS

PFM D&RGW two car passenger Set Combine No 212 & Standard coach not painted $100.00 Plus shipping

PFM D&RGW Pagosa Junction car Factory paint Car No 215 $200.00 Plus shipping

 

UNBUILT KITS

MODEL RAILROAD GENERAL STORE

D&RGW Combine Pass/Bagg Car nos 212/215 W/Blackstone trucks $45.00 Plus shipping

Campbell #357Coaling Station $50.00 Plus shipping

Campbell #404 Quincy Traveling crane $25.00 Plus shipping

S&S LTD D&RGW Car Repair Barn (Durango Colorado) $50.00 Plus shipping

 

PHOTOS ON REQUEST

Check or USPS Money Order only

BRINTON JONES    

bmrjones@...

30993 HUNTWOOD AVE # 206

HAYWARD CA 94544-7000


--
Russ Norris, MMR
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
http://blacklogvalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/