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Re: Any narrow gauge news from the NMRA National Convention

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Shhhh...say nothing. It will go away.

Re: Back to the Good Scale!

jczul36
 

Al, I spoke to Jim weekly, and I miss him too!
Jim would be very happy to hear you’re modeling in Hon3.  
Regards,
jc


On Jul 17, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Alan Lautenslager <alan.lautenslager@...> wrote:

Ever since I retired from CVP Products and moved out of Dallas I have been floundering around as to what scale to spend my time in. I have everything from Z scale to G scale and they all that their pros and cons for me. In going thru some boxes the other day I came across one that made me choke up. 
Jim Vail use to call me about every 3 weeks at CVP just to chat and give me hell like only Jim could! He keep bugging me about going into HOn3. I told him I no longer had a motive power but still had lots of rolling stock. The conversation for that day ended from a grunt from Jim. About a month later a box showed up at my house. Inside was an unpainted Westside Models C-25, a painted and re-motored PFM RGS #20 and a factory painted Westside Models C-16 #268 with back head detail and instrument motor ( All sound installed by Jim). He called a few days later and told me I had no excuse now not to be modeling in Hon3 and wished me a happy retirement. It was not too one that he was gone.
Having come across those locos sealed the decision for me. I will be starting on a small HOn3 layout in honor of Jim. Although the only times Jim and I got together were at the conventions we did spend a lot of time on the phone. Conversations that I will remember for a long time. 
Damn I miss those calls.
Regards - Al ( CVP Products retired )

Re: Back to the Good Scale!

alsands@...
 

Is Airwire small enough yet fo HOn3?

Alan Perth Western Australia

Re: Back to the Good Scale!

bassb04011
 

AirWire 900 is the single greatest invention in model railroading and I’ll be using it for my On3 layout. I’ve run trains on my friend William Reed’s RR with it and was an absolute pleasure; almost life changing. 
I’ll be going with the Easy DCC system for my small HOn3 layout so I’ll have similarities between the two RRs.
Brian 


On Jul 17, 2019, at 8:58 PM, Alan Lautenslager <alan.lautenslager@...> wrote:

No - CVP is the company that put command control on the map when we introduced the CTC16 system in the pages of MR back in the mid 70s. We followed that up with the Railcommand system which was the first all digital system. Then in the late 90s we introduced the EasyDCC system. A few years before I retired I came up with the idea for the AirWire 900 system.

MV I believe was the company doing the curves lenses.

Re: Back to the Good Scale!

Climax@...
 

Duaaaaaa, yes you are right, its MV markers.  I should know I probably have a dozen or so installed on Shays and other locomotives.  I was a PFM SSII person with three units on last layout.  I got dragged into DCC while I was working for American Airlines at DFW.  I joined the Texas Western Model RR club and they had all Digitrax.  Not knowing a darn thing about it I got a Chief II set and started reading the books.  If it took a 3 day brake on the railroad I had to reread the book.  I was getting so frustrated with the Digitrax I was about to trash the whole kit and kaboodle  It was then that I went to the Hickory NC NNGC and took my Blackstone K-27, C-16, and concor Goose.  I had never seen them run.  I stopped at Blackstone and asked them to run them explaining my story to them.  They said put them on the track which I did and they handed me their NCE controller.  I just looked at it and said I don't know anything about this and they said see that roller, roll it.  Well son of a gun, my train moved, and made glorious sounds as well.  I liked it so much I purchased an NCE starter set right then and there.  After getting home I had changed the Digitrax out and replaced it with NCE in less than 15 minutes.  All my stuff worked, my Tortoise machines worked with the Switch 8.  I was sold.  The PFM's returned to the closet.  Now I have boosters, two NCE controllers, 6 plug in stations and 37 tortoise SMs all being run by the NCE equipment.  I wanted to run trains, not fiddle with a computer and NCE let me do it.  I have perhaps 300 Brass locomotives all in cases, and all I run now is Blackstone and the CC on the HOn3 and Bachmann Spectrum on the HO which is fine with me.
I do have to say that it was people like you that were the leaders that confused the crap out of people like me.  We were stuck in the DC mind set and got good at it.  Times change and so did the equipment.  I am going up to TN next week to install NCE stations on a buddies large layout as he only uses one station.  I think he will like it much better being able to follow his trains.  Thanks for all your innovative work........and patience with old farts like me. hahhahahaha
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Lautenslager
Sent: Jul 17, 2019 8:58 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Back to the Good Scale!

No - CVP is the company that put command control on the map when we introduced the CTC16 system in the pages of MR back in the mid 70s. We followed that up with the Railcommand system which was the first all digital system. Then in the late 90s we introduced the EasyDCC system. A few years before I retired I came up with the idea for the AirWire 900 system.

MV I believe was the company doing the curves lenses.

Re: Any narrow gauge news from the NMRA National Convention

Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
 

Oh;  That is like the proto coupler used on their H0 freight cars.  PVC offers that in "S" with a number 5 head.  Yes that will fit where a number 5 does.  And should fit where the H0n3 does but I do not know for sure.
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Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest
group_list@...

Re: Back to the Good Scale!

Alan Lautenslager
 

No - CVP is the company that put command control on the map when we introduced the CTC16 system in the pages of MR back in the mid 70s. We followed that up with the Railcommand system which was the first all digital system. Then in the late 90s we introduced the EasyDCC system. A few years before I retired I came up with the idea for the AirWire 900 system.

MV I believe was the company doing the curves lenses.

Re: Back to the Good Scale!

Climax@...
 


CVP was that the small curved lenses?

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Lautenslager
Sent: Jul 17, 2019 7:31 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Back to the Good Scale!

Ever since I retired from CVP Products and moved out of Dallas I have been floundering around as to what scale to spend my time in. I have everything from Z scale to G scale and they all that their pros and cons for me. In going thru some boxes the other day I came across one that made me choke up. 
Jim Vail use to call me about every 3 weeks at CVP just to chat and give me hell like only Jim could! He keep bugging me about going into HOn3. I told him I no longer had a motive power but still had lots of rolling stock. The conversation for that day ended from a grunt from Jim. About a month later a box showed up at my house. Inside was an unpainted Westside Models C-25, a painted and re-motored PFM RGS #20 and a factory painted Westside Models C-16 #268 with back head detail and instrument motor ( All sound installed by Jim). He called a few days later and told me I had no excuse now not to be modeling in Hon3 and wished me a happy retirement. It was not too one that he was gone.
Having come across those locos sealed the decision for me. I will be starting on a small HOn3 layout in honor of Jim. Although the only times Jim and I got together were at the conventions we did spend a lot of time on the phone. Conversations that I will remember for a long time. 
Damn I miss those calls.
Regards - Al ( CVP Products retired )

Re: Back to the Good Scale!

Climax@...
 

Great story.  Friends are forever as memories last.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: lloyd lehrer
Sent: Jul 17, 2019 7:56 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Back to the Good Scale!

thats the kind of story that works for me.  I am sure you and me and whole bunch of others that were touched by Jim share your feelings.
lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097


On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 4:31 PM Alan Lautenslager <alan.lautenslager@...> wrote:
Ever since I retired from CVP Products and moved out of Dallas I have been floundering around as to what scale to spend my time in. I have everything from Z scale to G scale and they all that their pros and cons for me. In going thru some boxes the other day I came across one that made me choke up. 
Jim Vail use to call me about every 3 weeks at CVP just to chat and give me hell like only Jim could! He keep bugging me about going into HOn3. I told him I no longer had a motive power but still had lots of rolling stock. The conversation for that day ended from a grunt from Jim. About a month later a box showed up at my house. Inside was an unpainted Westside Models C-25, a painted and re-motored PFM RGS #20 and a factory painted Westside Models C-16 #268 with back head detail and instrument motor ( All sound installed by Jim). He called a few days later and told me I had no excuse now not to be modeling in Hon3 and wished me a happy retirement. It was not too one that he was gone.
Having come across those locos sealed the decision for me. I will be starting on a small HOn3 layout in honor of Jim. Although the only times Jim and I got together were at the conventions we did spend a lot of time on the phone. Conversations that I will remember for a long time. 
Damn I miss those calls.
Regards - Al ( CVP Products retired )


--
lloyd lehrer

Re: Any narrow gauge news from the NMRA National Convention

Mike Conder
 

More like a splat than a bounce, though ...

Mike Conder

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 10:04 AM Dale Buxton <dbtuathaddana@...> wrote:
I was referring to the bouncing K-27 tale. How many here know about that?

Dale B



On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 03:59 Mark Kasprowicz <marowicz@...> wrote:
Excellent Dale. Yes I suddenly came out of my age induced stupor and realised what they were. I also suddenly remembered that my good friend Mike Conder had slipped me a set which I had forgotten until now. So all's well that end's well. I wonder though why they left the brakes off, any idea on that one?

Not sure about the wag of the tale but I know about the hair of the dog.... 'Nuff said.

Mark K

Re: Back to the Good Scale!

lloyd lehrer
 

thats the kind of story that works for me.  I am sure you and me and whole bunch of others that were touched by Jim share your feelings.
lloyd lehrer, MANHATTAN BEACH, CA (310)951-9097


On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 4:31 PM Alan Lautenslager <alan.lautenslager@...> wrote:
Ever since I retired from CVP Products and moved out of Dallas I have been floundering around as to what scale to spend my time in. I have everything from Z scale to G scale and they all that their pros and cons for me. In going thru some boxes the other day I came across one that made me choke up. 
Jim Vail use to call me about every 3 weeks at CVP just to chat and give me hell like only Jim could! He keep bugging me about going into HOn3. I told him I no longer had a motive power but still had lots of rolling stock. The conversation for that day ended from a grunt from Jim. About a month later a box showed up at my house. Inside was an unpainted Westside Models C-25, a painted and re-motored PFM RGS #20 and a factory painted Westside Models C-16 #268 with back head detail and instrument motor ( All sound installed by Jim). He called a few days later and told me I had no excuse now not to be modeling in Hon3 and wished me a happy retirement. It was not too one that he was gone.
Having come across those locos sealed the decision for me. I will be starting on a small HOn3 layout in honor of Jim. Although the only times Jim and I got together were at the conventions we did spend a lot of time on the phone. Conversations that I will remember for a long time. 
Damn I miss those calls.
Regards - Al ( CVP Products retired )


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lloyd lehrer

Re: Any narrow gauge news from the NMRA National Convention

Mark Lewis
 

Dale, Dusty and All:

Here is a photo of the new Kadee 705 HOn3 coupler (just the coupler) installed in a Blackstone flat car. The original draft gear lid fits back in it's original location. This installation was done by Travis Handshug and posted on the HOn3 Narrow Gaugers Facebook group 2 days ago. 

Mark Lewis

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Re: Back to the Good Scale!

Mark Lewis
 

Alan:

It seems like the right move for you, and....Jim is probably thinking...."what took him so long".
Enjoy your HOn3 experience!

Mark Lewis
N.G. Modeling in N.C.

Back to the Good Scale!

Alan Lautenslager
 

Ever since I retired from CVP Products and moved out of Dallas I have been floundering around as to what scale to spend my time in. I have everything from Z scale to G scale and they all that their pros and cons for me. In going thru some boxes the other day I came across one that made me choke up. 
Jim Vail use to call me about every 3 weeks at CVP just to chat and give me hell like only Jim could! He keep bugging me about going into HOn3. I told him I no longer had a motive power but still had lots of rolling stock. The conversation for that day ended from a grunt from Jim. About a month later a box showed up at my house. Inside was an unpainted Westside Models C-25, a painted and re-motored PFM RGS #20 and a factory painted Westside Models C-16 #268 with back head detail and instrument motor ( All sound installed by Jim). He called a few days later and told me I had no excuse now not to be modeling in Hon3 and wished me a happy retirement. It was not too one that he was gone.
Having come across those locos sealed the decision for me. I will be starting on a small HOn3 layout in honor of Jim. Although the only times Jim and I got together were at the conventions we did spend a lot of time on the phone. Conversations that I will remember for a long time. 
Damn I miss those calls.
Regards - Al ( CVP Products retired )

Re: Any narrow gauge news from the NMRA National Convention

Dale Buxton
 

Ok gang, my 705’s arrived this morning from Kadee.
 
First, they are a bit smaller than Sergent Sharron type couplers. My first attempts  to get them to mate only worked if the Sergent’s knuckle was open to begin with.

As to weather they are a drop into fit in a Blackstone car. Its hard to say. But, I think it is not likely. This is due to the unusual shape of the pivot hole and post. They are kind of arrow head shaped. With the arrow pointing to the coupler knuckle and a inset notch in the back end for the centering spring. (I will take pictures tonight)

More info to follow tomorrow

Dale B





On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 16:58 Dusty <dustburm@q.com> wrote:
Where are the images of the 705's on the Blackstone car? Help!

I stated the Kadee trucks were NKP (NO KNOWN PROTOTYPE) trucks in a post on 3/24/2018. My personal opinion is that hon3 doesn't need adaptations of standard guage trucks, it needs trucks with a prototype. Something usable with existing car kits.

Dusty Burman 

Re: Any narrow gauge news from the NMRA National Convention

Dusty
 

Where are the images of the 705's on the Blackstone car? Help!

I stated the Kadee trucks were NKP (NO KNOWN PROTOTYPE) trucks in a post on 3/24/2018. My personal opinion is that hon3 doesn't need adaptations of standard guage trucks, it needs trucks with a prototype. Something usable with existing car kits.

Dusty Burman 

Re: Any narrow gauge news from the NMRA National Convention

duncan
 

And the Toyman knows . . .

Re: Any narrow gauge news from the NMRA National Convention

arfio@...
 

Now, they go back a long way!

Allen Farnsworth

On Jul 17, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Ross A <Westonpartsmgr@...> wrote:

Sounds like the work of the Banister Brothers....

Re: Any narrow gauge news from the NMRA National Convention

 

Sounds like the work of the Banister Brothers....

Re: Any narrow gauge news from the NMRA National Convention

Brian Kopp
 

all right Dale quit teasing us newer narrow-minded types and share the story. =)

Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL