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Re: Looking for Micro Trains HOn3 Victor Gold Mining Gold Belt Line gondola. Anyone willing to part with one ?

Sam Urrate
 

Have you found one yet? I just bought one, brand new, 2 weeks ago but it sounds like you need one more than me.  Sam U.

Re: Looking for Micro Trains HOn3 Victor Gold Mining Gold Belt Line gondola. Anyone willing to part with one ?

Paul Sturtz
 

Price?

Re: Blackstone Green Coaches to Trade (Want Yellow and Red)

bassb04011
 

Anyone interested in trading my Green Coach 280 or 284 for an UNLETTERED red coach? Those were sold individually.

Or is considering pulling my Chili Line 306 from its set to trade for a yellow coach from the Silverton set.

Thanks
Brian Bass 


On Jun 28, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Doug Boudakian <dboudrrtrain@...> wrote:

Brian
If you want to sell one or both of the coaches I am interested depending on the price?
Doug Boudakian 


On Jun 28, 2019, at 2:18 PM, bassb04011 <fishingmaine@...> wrote:

I picked up 4 Blackstone Coaches this week.  They don't appear to have ever been run and are in near perfect shape though the boxes have some minor scuffing on the corners etc.
I'm keeping one or two green coaches but also want some variety for the module I'm building and would like to see if anyone wants to trade a green coach for one of the Blackstone Yellow Coaches from the Silverton Set or for a lettered and numbered Red Coach from the Red set.  I have a few different numbers so let me know if you're looking for a specific one.  I'd also be open to buying a lettered red coach or yellow coach then selling a couple green ones after that face.  Looking for mint/near mint in the box.  Some run time is ok as long as they are in near new condition.
Thanks,
Brian Bass
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track cleaning car

Brian Kopp
 

I have another question for this great HOn3 brain trust......( I will owe a bunch of beers or coffees at an NG convention when I can get to one easily from Florida)

Is there a particular track cleaning car that works well for HOn3 track or do you mostly make your own, from an HO track cleaner. Are the $160 brass HO track cleaners on ebay worth the investment?

Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL

Re: track cleaning car

Dusty
 

Brian,
I made my relatively inexpensive 'roller' out of strip styrene, 1/2 PVC pipe, lead shot bonded with acrylic varnish, micro fiber cloth, and a pair of excess Tomalco 4' 8" reefer trucks. The roller is also almost full of loose shot.

The 'dragger' is acrylic, styrene, Masonite (MDF?), lead weights and Blackstone trucks.

There's probably some additional bits as well. Again a skill builder. Imagine, measure, cut, square, glue, drill, tap, screw, test, adjust.

Dusty Burman

Re: track cleaning car

Climax@...
 

Wow, you must have taken a long time to line all those lead shots up in their appropriate bays!

-----Original Message-----
From: Dusty
Sent: Jun 30, 2019 7:13 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] track cleaning car

Brian,
I made my relatively inexpensive 'roller' out of strip styrene, 1/2 PVC pipe, lead shot bonded with acrylic varnish, micro fiber cloth, and a pair of excess Tomalco 4' 8" reefer trucks. The roller is also almost full of loose shot.

The 'dragger' is acrylic, styrene, Masonite (MDF?), lead weights and Blackstone trucks.

There's probably some additional bits as well. Again a skill builder. Imagine, measure, cut, square, glue, drill, tap, screw, test, adjust.

Dusty Burman

Re: track cleaning car

Dusty
 

I occasionally find a stray piece of shot a year later.

Dusty Burman 

Re: track cleaning car

Brian Kopp
 

Thanks everybody. Always good ideas here.
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL

Re: track cleaning car

Climax@...
 

I do use lead shot and BB's in my model paints as agitators, when my wife is not around to agitate me that is.  hahahahhaha  Every time I open a new jar of paint two bb's go in.  Makes the shaking go easier and mixes better.  My only problem comes when I combine same color/brands of paint and I get more and more agitators in the bottles.  Kind of like having multiple divorcees after you! hahahahaha  Seriously I have been married for 50 years and surprisingly to the same woman.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Dusty
Sent: Jun 30, 2019 7:59 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HOn3] track cleaning car

I occasionally find a stray piece of shot a year later.

Dusty Burman 

Re: MDC HOn3 2-8-0 kit identifications

roundbell@...
 




-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Conder <vulturenest1@...>
To: HOn3 <HOn3@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jun 28, 2019 7:05 pm
Subject: [HOn3] MDC HOn3 2-8-0 kit identifications

With the closing of NWSL soon, I want to get a few regear kits for my unbuilt MDC kits.  NWSL has a couple of different kits, including one that doesn't fit pre-1998 lits.

But how does one tell which are pre-1998 and which are post-1998?Pre 1998 brass tires, plastic box insert  Are all brown flat boxes pre-1998? post 1998  plated tires, blue foam box lining.

Any help would be appreciated ...

Mike Conder      Wayne   Much inventory is already O O S

Re: track cleaning car

Bruce
 

I'm a big fan of the Atlas (and other brands of the same car) vacuum car.  Also has sanders and liquid application capabilities.

So, I purchased a N scale unit made by Tomix for $50, shipped dorect from Japan.

I then converted it to HOn3 by extending the frame at each end to accommodate short wheelbase HOn3 trucks with power pickup added and Kadee HOn3 couplers.

Fairly easy conversion to get in the end what I wanted.

Bruce Bowie
Huron OH

Re: track cleaning car

Don Peterson
 

Dusty
Can you elaborate on the micro fibre cloth. How do you attach it to the roller. Do you put any kind of fluid on the roller? Also, does the roller just kind of float in the opening in the car or is it attached in some way?

Thanks,
Don Peterson

Re: track cleaning car

Mike Van Hove
 

I did that back in the day, when BB’s were made of lead.

But, now that California has made it illegal to use lead for BB’s, they are made of a ferrous metal, and it rusts in the water based paints.

Thanks a lot, California.

Mike Van Hove  (a former inmate of California, but I made my escape in 1966, and never looked back) 😳


On Jun 30, 2019, at 7:05 PM, Climax@... wrote:

I do use lead shot and BB's in my model paints as agitators, when my wife is not around to agitate me that is.  hahahahhaha  Every time I open a new jar of paint two bb's go in.  Makes the shaking go easier and mixes better.  My only problem comes when I combine same color/brands of paint and I get more and more agitators in the bottles.  Kind of like having multiple divorcees after you! hahahahaha  Seriously I have been married for 50 years and surprisingly to the same woman.
Dave

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dusty 
Sent: Jun 30, 2019 7:59 PM 
To: HOn3@groups.io 
Subject: Re: [HOn3] track cleaning car 

I occasionally find a stray piece of shot a year later.

Dusty Burman 

Re: track cleaning car

Bill Lugg
 

That's hilarious about California.  You know the Prop 65 warning that
you see on everything these days.  Well, I've kind of decided it's
actually California that causes the cancer.  I got out about 22 years ago.

Regarding the lead shot, aren't fishing weights still made of lead and
some of them in a size appropriate for paint agitators?

Just a thought.

Bill Lugg

On 6/30/19 8:51 PM, Mike Van Hove wrote:
I did that back in the day, when BB’s were made of lead.

But, now that California has made it illegal to use lead for BB’s,
they are made of a ferrous metal, and it rusts in the water based paints.

Thanks a lot, California.

Mike Van Hove  (a former inmate of California, but I made my escape in
1966, and never looked back) 😳


On Jun 30, 2019, at 7:05 PM, Climax@...
<mailto:Climax@...> wrote:

I do use lead shot and BB's in my model paints as agitators, when my
wife is not around to agitate me that is.  hahahahhaha  Every time I
open a new jar of paint two bb's go in.  Makes the shaking go easier
and mixes better.  My only problem comes when I combine same
color/brands of paint and I get more and more agitators in the
bottles.  Kind of like having multiple divorcees after you!
hahahahaha  Seriously I have been married for 50 years and
surprisingly to the same woman.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Dusty
Sent: Jun 30, 2019 7:59 PM
To:HOn3@groups.io <mailto:HOn3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HOn3] track cleaning car

I occasionally find a stray piece of shot a year later.

Dusty Burman

Re: track cleaning car

Dale Buxton
 

There are plastic BB's on the market these days. I wonder how well those would work in water based paints?


On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 8:51 PM Mike Van Hove <vanhovem22@...> wrote:
I did that back in the day, when BB’s were made of lead.

But, now that California has made it illegal to use lead for BB’s, they are made of a ferrous metal, and it rusts in the water based paints.

Thanks a lot, California.

Mike Van Hove  (a former inmate of California, but I made my escape in 1966, and never looked back) 😳


On Jun 30, 2019, at 7:05 PM, Climax@... wrote:

I do use lead shot and BB's in my model paints as agitators, when my wife is not around to agitate me that is.  hahahahhaha  Every time I open a new jar of paint two bb's go in.  Makes the shaking go easier and mixes better.  My only problem comes when I combine same color/brands of paint and I get more and more agitators in the bottles.  Kind of like having multiple divorcees after you! hahahahaha  Seriously I have been married for 50 years and surprisingly to the same woman.
Dave

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dusty 
Sent: Jun 30, 2019 7:59 PM 
To: HOn3@groups.io 
Subject: Re: [HOn3] track cleaning car 

I occasionally find a stray piece of shot a year later.

Dusty Burman 

Re: track cleaning car

Mark Kasprowicz
 

I've tried one of those brass liquid designs and frankly they didn't do the job anywhere near as well as a masonite dragger. I volunteer at a local museum based on model railways (https://pendonmuseum.com/) and we use a long piece of wood with a truck at each. In between a pair of 1/8" nails which just clear the track are driven in from the top. They're filed flat underneath. The track cleaning pads are masonite and they're weighed down with pieces of sheet lead the same size as the pads. They're both drilled so the nail slip through them. The cars themselves are slightly weighted with lead. The car is pushed around the layout by a well weighted 0-6-0 tank engine at the start of each operating session. Usuallly two runs suffice but a third may be needed. No chemicals are used and after each run the pad is changed and setc aside for cleaning. Some clean them by sanding, others use white spirit.

Haydn and Fairey used the same idea but modified a box car into a dragger and cut it into a train. I have that too but overcoming the drag plus the weight of the train can be an issue on grades.

BTW the Pendon cleaners are called Heiniken cars because they reach the parts that other track cleaners cannot - UK beer commercial!

Mark K
Oxon England

Re: track cleaning car

Mick Moignard
 

I converted an HO vacuum car (UK Dapol brand, but it’s essentially the same car as the Atlas one ) to HOn3 by merely regauging the wheelsets and adding appropriate Kadee couplers to the NEM Coupler sockets. I only use it on vacuum.  I also have a Railline boxcar as a dragger car based on one in an old Jim Vail article.  Together they work ok, but the best way IMHO to keep stuff clean and running is just to run it. Regularly.

Mick

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Re: track cleaning car

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Not sure how well these work but you can get glass paint agitators here.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/6mm-glass-paint-agitators-citadel-army-painter-vallejo-games-workshop-ball/223194654754?hash=item33f7702822:m:mAY40P2Wo56jUdQeMVusEMw

UK Compnay but they ship worldwide.

Mark K
Oxon England
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Re: track cleaning car

lloyd lehrer
 

Pictures please.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 4:01 AM Bruce <in2trains@...> wrote:
I'm a big fan of the Atlas (and other brands of the same car) vacuum car.  Also has sanders and liquid application capabilities.

So, I purchased a N scale unit made by Tomix for $50, shipped dorect from Japan.

I then converted it to HOn3 by extending the frame at each end to accommodate short wheelbase HOn3 trucks with power pickup added and Kadee HOn3 couplers.

Fairly easy conversion to get in the end what I wanted.

Bruce Bowie
Huron OH


--
lloyd lehrer

Re: track cleaning car

Dale Buxton
 

I went a bit high ticket for my track my track cleaning train. The layout I have planed will have a lot of tunnels. Probably too many (don't they all). So I bought an CMX HO scale track cleaner car an put it on a pair of Blackstone passenger car trucks. I fill the tank on this car with LPS #1 greaseless lubricant and electrical cleaner. This stuff is like WOW! It really lifts the crud off of nickle-silver rail. Even on seemingly clean track it finds oxidation! On the down side, It is a lubricant, so it does leave the rail heads a bit slick. So it diminishes locomotive traction. This is where cars 2 and 3 in the train come in. 

Car #2 is a clear Plexiglas pseudo flatcar on Blackstone 3'7" trucks with a weighted and floating piece of Masonite under it to act as a rail head scrubber. To keep the Masonite on the rails, the Masonite has 2 (1") nails attached to it that go through two matching spaced slightly larger diameter holes in the Plexiglas car body. To each of those nails I've attached a piece of .5" X .75 brass rod with an appropriate sized hole drilled through them to mate onto the nails. Gravity does a very good job of keeping the Masonite on the rails and the Masonite does a very good job of sort of scrubbing the rail heads. To insure that car stays on the rails I put a 1" X .875" X .5" brass block on the car center. I tracks very well! 

Car #3 is similar to cars #2 but it has much less weight and it has a micro fiber pad in the rail head slider. It's a velour like fabric. So it wicks up any leftover LPS #1 and further helps to diminish the rail slickness.

Now it is pretty obvious that his whole cleaning train is pretty heavy and has a lot of drag to it. There is probably not a single HOn3 locomotive ever produced that could pull just one of these cars, let alone all 3!
So I bought (2) Atlas S-2 switchers and re-gauged them to HOn3. I choose this model for two distinct reasons. Number one was because of the narrow width of the gearboxes on the power trucks. There is just enough space between the outsides of these gearboxes that the re-gauged to HOn3 wheels fit there and operate smoothly. The second reason was the short wheel base of these loco, Their smaller physical profile was also a small consideration as well I guess. This pair of S-2's have enough power to pull this weighty train up a 3% grade on a 22" radius curve. Which is all that I needed.

I also have a pair of Stewart F3's (now Bowser) diesels that I re-gauged to HOn3. These models also have have the narrow power truck gearboxes that allow them to be re-gauged to HOn3. They are far more weighty on the rails than the S-2's and are real luggers. But, they are a bit longer than the S-2's and have a larger physical profile. Time will tell which diesel set does the best job in actual full-on operations. 

I have a fourth car that I can run around in front of this train. It has a plexiglass frame like the other two and a pair of super magnets sandwiched above and below the plexi. This car is designed pick up any ferrous material that finds its way onto the roadbed.

I am sure that there there are some here that think this is all extreme and over thinking of the problem. Well over-thinking things seems to be my middle name. This is simply my solution to help automate the track cleaning process and to clean hard to get at track. There is also my geologic location and climate to consider. In Colorado where I live, it is very dry and dusty. The soil on the front range of the Rockies contains a lot Bentonite Clay. This clay in its dusty form is very sticky. You should see Denver area cars after a rain storm. They always need to washed.  No matter how long it rains. After is stops there is always a dirty wind that follows it. Well this dust gets into our homes and eventually on my my railroad. The local climate and geology is what is and cant be changed. So these were my solutions. Warts and all.

Dale Buxton

    


On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 4:28 PM Brian Kopp <kc5lpa1@...> wrote:
I have another question for this great HOn3 brain trust......( I will owe a bunch of beers or coffees at an NG convention when I can get to one easily from Florida)

Is there a particular track cleaning car that works well for HOn3 track or do you mostly make your own, from an HO track cleaner. Are the $160 brass HO track cleaners on ebay worth the investment?

Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, FL