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Re: Low Cost HOn3?

Paul Sturtz
 

Thanks, John, I have added them in the "photos" file.

Re: Dark clouds? Death of the hobby?

duncan
 

Don,

    You are right, of course.  She needed to see a direct correlation to the actual subjects I was teaching - Eastern Hemisphere - early man, Mesopotamia, Ancient Greece, Rome, Middle Ages, Renaissance, etc.  But, you are exactly correct, each of the various subjects connects with model railroading in different and important ways, as you indicated.  And unfortunately, today, due to concern that "johnny can't read", many of these subjects have either been dropped, or repressed a great deal.  So, my middle school dropped, shop, pushed the social sciences into the background and instead emphasized reading, writing, spelling, 'rithmatic and science.  Often taking ss class time to work on these others.  So, very little critical thinking, etc.  was being emphasized.  That's most of why I got out when I could.

                                                        Duncan

FS :NIB brass Balboa D&RGW C-21 #361

NarrowMinded1
 

FS :NIB brass Balboa D&RGW C-21 #361. It appears to have a can motor installed. I did not test it as I have all my test equipment packed up from moving, however, since I purchased it listed as new I presume it is in working order. Box and foam are in excellent condition. If not in working order when received please let me know and upon return of the loco I will issue a refund. I'm asking $400 shipped. PayPal, check, or money order.
--
Nathan M. Kline
McConnellsburg, PA 17233

psc k28

jhoff02@...
 

I have a PSC Nakamura hon3 k28 locomotive that I would like to replace the motor. What can motor should I get? Jim

Re: psc k28

Jeff Young
 

Get Locodoc’s kit: http://www.roundbell.com/hon3conversions.html (note that it’s listed under Westside as they sold the bulk of the Nakamura K28s).

On 12 Dec 2018, at 21:45, jhoff02@... wrote:

I have a PSC Nakamura hon3 k28 locomotive that I would like to replace the motor. What can motor should I get? Jim
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Re: psc k28

Mark Rosche
 

or a Faulhaber 0816K012SR should work well (8mmx16mm 7-pole motor)

Regards,

Mark

Don‘t take life too seriously...no one gets out alive anyway....

Water tank roof

Risrwy@...
 

I am in need of a round not octagonal roof for a 50,000 gallon water tank.
I have a plain wood roof but do not feel like shingling the one on hand.
Hopefully there is a cast roof with shingles out there that we can locate.
Thank you.
Paul

--
Recreating the 14th. Subdivision
D&RGW Salida Division in 1929

Re: Water tank roof

Mark Lewis
 

Paul:

Try looking for part #124, from Durango Press. It's their D&RGW Water Tank injection molded round roof assembly, retailing for $7.50.

Mark Lewis 
Stony Point, NC 

Re: Water tank roof

Climax@...
 

I have a cast roof that is 2 5/8 diameter, 3/4 inch high, cast singled, 7 segments but round.  Would this fit your need?
DB

-----Original Message-----
From: Risrwy@...
Sent: Dec 12, 2018 8:15 PM
To: HOn3@groups.io
Subject: [HOn3] Water tank roof

I am in need of a round not octagonal roof for a 50,000 gallon water tank.
I have a plain wood roof but do not feel like shingling the one on hand.
Hopefully there is a cast roof with shingles out there that we can locate.
Thank you.
Paul

--
Recreating the 14th. Subdivision
D&RGW Salida Division in 1929

Re: psc k28

Mark Kasprowicz
 

I've replaced a number of these, both the Westside/ PSC K28 and K36 - they both had the same weak motor! I used a Mashima 1624 though I think the 1626 will also fit. These are still available in spite of production ceasing. It has the same 10mm mounting centres and 2mm shaft as the original. The worm is soldered on. Half hour job.

Mark K
Oxford England.

Re: psc k28

Mick Moignard
 

Mashima 1624 or 1628 will work very well, if you can find one.  5 minute swap.

Mick

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Re: Water tank roof

Keith Wiseman
 

Hello Paul,

We have one We make on ebay. Click here.   https://www.ebay.com/itm/132855848138   It is a one piece resin casting.

Keith Wiseman
Wiseman Model Services

Calling For High Desert Railroads For Next Layout Tour (So. Calif.)

Bob Chaparro
 

Model Railroads of Southern California's 59th layout tour will be Saturday, February 23, in the area between and including San Bernardino and Barstow. Other major towns in that area are Adelanto, Apple Valley, Hesperia and Victorville.

This is the same day the Roundhouse Gang will have its swap meet in San Bernardino so layout visitors can shop and the swap meet and then head north to the layouts.

If you have an operating model or garden railroad, live in the tour area and are interested in participating, please contact me OFF LIST at:

chiefbobbb@... [chiefbobbb AT verizon DOT net]

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Model Railroads of Southern California

https://groups.io/g/ModelRailroadsofSoCalif

Re: psc k28

Craig Symington
 

Hi Mark,

Where are you sourcing those motors and at what price?

Craig.

Re: psc k28

Mark Rosche
 

Hi Craig,

I reside in Europe so it is a little easier to source Faulhaber or Maxon motors.  In searching around a bit, I found


in the US if he is still in business...but be warned, Faulhaber and Maxon motors are not cheap...a good motor will run around $40-60.  

I know there are a lot of people who balk at spending this amount on a motor but these are the absolute best motors available and I believe that our expensive brass locomotives deserve such motors...a lot of folks spend $300-$400 on a locomotive and then when re-motoring it, try to find the cheapest 5-pole motor they can...I cannot follow this thinking pattern...

Regards,

Mark

Don‘t take life too seriously...no one gets out alive anyway....

Re: psc k28

Mark Kasprowicz
 

Hi Craig,

The last 1624's I bought were from Roxey Mouldings here in the UK. The cost was £26, or 30 or so dollars. Their website shows them still in stock.

Mark.

Re: psc k28

Mark Kasprowicz
 

I've bought Maxon motors from micro-loco-motion as well. They were ideal for replacing OFM's because they would mount where the boiler was on HOn3 C-class locos. Good motors too but they have one drawback when used with cam less sound decoders. Because of the BEMF they generate I found it difficult to sync the chuff to the wheel revolutions. I checked with Soundtraxx and was told that some coreless motors had singular BEMF that did not lend itself to easy syncing.

Mark K
Oxford, England.

Re: Can we PLEASE ...

roundbell@...
 

At the Minneapolis N. G. Convention I talked to you about the Iowa Traction freight operation near Mason City, Iowa. and the possibility of it making a good Railfan article. Monday on the way back to Denver we stopped back there to check it out some more. We saw all 4 box cab electrics and checked every foot of track. At the very west end of the trackage (about 300 yards east of U. S. 35) was a small manufacturing plant with a PCC and a large Plymouth 4 wheel loco and a man ( named Stan Garner ) in a chair outside. I looked in the open door and there was a completed old time steam loco tender lettered Virginia & Truckee RR #1. Next to it was a 7/8 completed small standard gauge 2-6-0. There web site ( V & T Lyon ) says it is 22 tons.
        It is a brand new replica and the new all welded boiler is the finest work I have ever seen, none of the corners are square, all the corners of the firebox and backhead are rounded and the welding is superb. The loco is over 90 % complete. The crosshead water pump is complete, the dry pipes are installed in the smokebox and the exhaust pipes and exhaust nozzle are being fabricated.and I noticed that the bottom of the smokebox was open and must be closed in.
       Stan Garner was wearing a "LEVIATHAN" T shirt. We talked for a couple hours about our involvement with steam and of coarse thought about a lot more after we parted.
      I now remember that about 53 years ago I traveled around southern California with Vic Koenigsburg checking out all the steam locos, Vic was writing the U. S. Steam Locomotive Directly and published it. Later it was revised, updated and published by David Conrad of the Valley RR. We went up and visited a small group of steam railfans north of L A who had an old 1880s Porter 2-4-2T and I would swear the two main guys were Stan Garner and Bill Odem although I didn't ask Stan in September. This little operation became the Fillmore and Western where they shoot virtually all the train scenes for T V and movies which would tie in very well with the V & T Lyon.  
        If you arrange for someone to research these two stories you can start by Googling "Iowa Trolley Museum" and "V & T Lyon". Since he is soliciting donations I would think he would agree to publicity.
       About the October 2018 Trains Magazine had a 1 page add from Progressive Rail with a condensed map of the US showing all of their operating short lines and right in the middle was IOWA TRACTION.
       Wayne Weiss
    Salida Roundhouse, Roundbell Hobby Products,   Locodoc.com     ETC.

-----Original Message-----
From: claneon30 <chrislaneon30@...>
To: HOn3 <HOn3@groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2018 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [HOn3] Can we PLEASE ...

Most of us see those two topics as closely related….

Chris Lane - Editor HOn3 Annual



On Dec 10, 2018, at 5:01 PM, Jim Betz <jimbetz@...> wrote:

  ... get back to discussing HOn3 trains and not "the state of the hobby" ... ???

Re: psc k28

John Stutz
 

Craig

Loco Doc, doing business as the Salida Roundhouse, uses Faulhabers for most of his many HOn3 remotering kits, and also sells the bare  motors.   He uses 18 (or 24?) volt versions to get the low 12 volt no-load speeds that he quotes.    These coreless motors have an extraordinarily flat speed/voltage response, combined with unusually high torque for their size, without any low voltage cogging , so this is a viable approach to providing excellent control at any realistic speed.

I like 24 volt Faulhabers myself.  They give the low speed control of a can motor  with a double reduction drive, equivalent to a 56:1 reduction ratio with the fairly standard 28:1 worm gears.    The more common approach of using a 12 volt coreless motor with a reduction gearhead is, in my opinion, far too noisy. Unless you really did want a bumblebee, the high speed spur gears are quite incompatible with sound.   And fitting a second gear set beside the worm gear for a higher reduction ratio, is a very tight fit between  inside HOn3 frames.

The usual rules apply:  Use the largest diameter motor that will fit , with the biggest flywheel.  Although with DCC a current keeper reduces the need for a flywheel.  With Faulhabers, I try to mount the flywheel on the worm shaft.

John Stutz

On 12/13/2018 10:59 AM, Mark Rosche via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Craig,

I reside in Europe so it is a little easier to source Faulhaber or Maxon motors.  In searching around a bit, I found

http://www.micro-loco-motion.com/

in the US if he is still in business...but be warned, Faulhaber and Maxon motors are not cheap...a good motor will run around $40-60.

I know there are a lot of people who balk at spending this amount on a motor but these are the absolute best motors available and I believe that our expensive brass locomotives deserve such motors...a lot of folks spend $300-$400 on a locomotive and then when re-motoring it, try to find the cheapest 5-pole motor they can...I cannot follow this thinking pattern...

Re: Balboa D&RGW C-21 #361 / Namiki motor

roundbell@...
 

That is a Namiki coreless motor, either
1220 or 1230 length. It is a good motor but probably a little weak for this big model, the 1220 definately. A lot of these motors came in with a lubricant that turns to hard wax with age. Tet it with DC and no load, if it doesn't turn over at 3 volts or squeaks stop now.    SEE  Locodoc.com  /  coreless motors   /   Namiki. for description and cures.   LocoDoc



-----Original Message-----
From: NarrowMinded1 <nathan.kline83@...>
To: HOn3 <HOn3@groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Dec 12, 2018 12:33 pm
Subject: [HOn3] FS :NIB brass Balboa D&RGW C-21 #361

FS :NIB brass Balboa D&RGW C-21 #361. It appears to have a can motor installed. I did not test it as I have all my test equipment packed up from moving, however, since I purchased it listed as new I presume it is in working order. Box and foam are in excellent condition. If not in working order when received please let me know and upon return of the loco I will issue a refund. I'm asking $400 shipped. PayPal, check, or money order.
--
Nathan M. Kline
McConnellsburg, PA 17233