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From: Dave <4437087@...>
Date: December 18, 2020 at 3:51:13 PM CST
Subject: Re: [HOn3] I'm looking for a remotoring-regearing guru/mentor
2604 4th Street N.W.
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Phone: 403 277- 7226
Fax: 403 277 7688
These folks still have a website and are listed as a dealer for Stoner Creek. Might be easier to call and ask the question in English than German...
On Dec 18, 2020, at 11:58 AM, duncan <train3guy@...> wrote:
Stoner Creek's web site was last updated in 2012, eight years
ago. I tried contacting him this past summer and got no response.
On 12/18/2020 10:22 AM, Wayne wrote:
Is Stoner Creek in Germany still
around? He offered a fantastic array of motors and
gearboxes for lots of brass. Much more then Wayne form
Alan in MN
Sent from Mail for
Jim Vail’s articles on Getting
them running. Most of this information is still
valid. He was very thorough. Mar/Aprl 1989 thru
Also on the archive disk, if you
search, is Boone Morrisons articles. He did a bunch
of articles on reworking those FED models. You’ll
have to look up his articles. There were lots as I
My Brass Bashing articles:
That last two are available on
White River’s website as back issues.
I did some brass bashing on
Lambert Geese too, but you’ll have to look that up.
They aren’t own that archive disk.
My May/Jun 2020 article contains
information on acquiring LEDs, Tubing, screws and
motors for brass projects. The motor market has
dried up since Covid, but the other information
should be still valid. This should be available as
a back issue from White River.
The long article on rebuilding
brass was in the 2009 HOn3 annual. Also available
from White River. It includes a mason-bogie.
I’m puzzled by your comment on
your comment that my articles don’t cover much on
that particular topic. Sure the other ones this
year were on the Rico Coal Pocket, etc. I write
about lots of different things and people would get
bored of reading about only one subject, but the
current issue (at least it is supposed to) tackles
exactly the problem you are facing. The premise of
the article is that people getting into the hobby
are finding the HOn3 locomotive options expensive
and not always available. So I take the reader step
by step through a (relatively) inexpensive approach
to reworking older brass. Maybe part 2 (Jan/Feb
2021) is needed to make it come together? That
issue should be out in about a month.
probably not going to find a specific answer to
the project you have in mind. Not a lot of people
will work on HOn3 brass. And of those, not a lot
will write about it. Also, many resources come
and go. Motors are a good example of that.
What’s available today, will likely be gone in
months or years. So what worked for someone at
one time, might not have the resources to be
replicated today. You are going to have to figure
out your project on your own. All you can do is
learn from others and learn from yourself by
trying. I’m no expert, but I keep learning from
both of those things. Every project is unique.
Getting back to the brass bashing articles. I’m
hoping that I show enough examples that the reader
will get some ideas for their own projects. I
don’t expect that anyone would ever copy exactly
what I’ve done.
BTW. If you read my articles
you’ll notice an absence of gearbox swaps in HOn3.
That’s because there aren’t many options that I know
of. Most of the HO gearboxes are too big for HOn3.
And if you can fit one in an HOn3 engine, usually
the motor is so small that it doesn’t have enough
torque to turn it properly. Those small engines you
have will definitely fall into that category. The
only option is the 50:1 NWSL gearbox and I never had
much luck with it. There are older Kemtron ones if
you can find them. The options in HO right now is
the larger HO (mod 3) NWSL gearboxes and the
Samhongsa ones the guys on the Facebook group bring
in. Both are probably too big for most HOn3. I try
to re-use the HOn3 gearboxes as much as possible.
Although not perfect, you can use motors with gear
heads or DCC to adjust your running performance to
Lastly. Here’s a source of ideas
and parts that falls out of the view of the average
north american modeller. Maybe you can find some
parts here. http://www.nigellawton009.com/VeeTipper.html
I don’t have much experience with them. I did order
some driveline parts that I haven’t tried yet. It
took about 3 weeks to get the parts to Canada last
On Dec 18, 2020, at 5:37
AM, Roger Clay <roger@...>
Thanks for your reply
and advice. Do you happen to have the
NGSLG issues your brass-bashing articles
have appeared in. Your articles this year,
while great, don’t cover much on that
particular topic — which is a big interest
for me right now.
Looking forward to your
reply and I’ll talk to you downstream~~~
— burnin’ rio
Check out the current and past
Narrow Gauge Gazettes for a bunch
of “Brass bashing” articles that
I’ve written. They are step by
step tutorials on rebuilding HOn3
brass. I write about all the
steps that I can think of, but you
can pick and choose what things
are important to you and skip the
rest. In the current issue
(Nov\Dec 2020) I talk about
picking a suitable subject and
start a 2 article series on doing
exactly what you are asking about.
In the past I’ve done a bunch of
other brass bashing projects in
the Gazette too. Sure they aren’t
the same models you are looking at
but the concepts and advice are
the same. Earlier this year I
wrote about obtaining parts,
motors, etc. Much of that has
changed since Covid, but there is
still good information there. In
the 2009 or 2010 HOn3 annual
(still available from white
river), I wrote an exhaustive
series on painting brass. I think
there is the same mason bogie in
that article that you have. I did
up 3-5 bogies at the time.
Around 1990, Jim Vail wrote a
long series on the Gazette on
reworking brass. Most of his
ideas stand today. I’m thinking
about writing a supplement for it
on what has changed.
The remoter and repower group is
great as someone else suggested.
There is a brass workshop group on
Facebook with decent information.
Probably the best info is the page
owners periodically go to
Samhongsa and do a bulk buy on
gearboxes, motors and details.
They are currently looking to
source some good motors that would
be suitable for HOn3.
If you want to save yourself some
pain, try remotoring, etc a HO
standard gauge brass engine
first. You’ll learn a lot about
the process without the pain of
working in HOn3. I do a lot of
standard gauge engines. I
thoroughly enjoy the process. I
slowed down significantly on the
HOn3 models because I find it much
more tedious and frustrating. My
eyes aren’t what what they used to
Good luck. The information is out
there if you look for it. With
practice, you’ll get good at
reworking those engines.