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Leonello Pesce <leo@...>
Hello to all to this new steam list.
I would like first to present myself to the list. I am an HO modeler, Southern Pacific late steam early diesel era. I am very fascinated by steam engines in general, but only from a model point of view, more than the actual working ones. This is because I like to watch them while running on the main, or just seating at the facilities. The main reason for liking SP steam so much is their particular look they have, especially in the later part of steam. But I also like other specific steam engines from other RR or even countries, like Germany and Italy. I do own a number of SP engines in brass, most old (the good runners) and some new (the good lookers). I have changed motors to can in a few, and other I no longer own. I do work on engines from embers of the club in Menlo Park (West Bay Model RR) and from a store I work one day a week. Mostly cleaning and lubing, including open frame motors. (some engines I got were very frozen for being stored for years in their boxes; and do not get me started on the foam being everywhere in the engine) The question of the day I guess is about the new two engines about to hit the market from Athearn and Bachmann. The first is a 2-8-2 USRA and the second is a 4-8-2 (USRA?) Is this a trend of good things to come? Anybody has seen either one yet? Any comments? Cheers Leo ========================================================================== Leonello Pesce support@sco.com SCO Tech Support http://www.sco.com 100 Pioneer, Santa Cruz, CA, 95061 (408) 425-4726
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Thomas Beutel <Thomas.Beutel@...>
Hi Leo,
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I joining this list too because I'm a fan of steam (SP in particular). Here are the URL's to the two locomotives: http://www.athearn.com/282.html http://www.bachmanntrains.com/bachmann/new/lightmountain.html It is encouraging to notice that Bachmann points out of their removable domes. It means they are (finally) aware that modelers like to modify their locos. I certainly hope that Athearn's model will also have removable domes. Any thoughts on kitbashes for these two locos? Soundtraxx recently announced a plug-and-play DCC sound decoder for the Bachmann 2-8-0 that includes the speaker on the decoder board. Let's hope that it will fit in these two locos. It should since the tenders are so similar. I hope this is all a sign of good things to come. It has always seemed strange to me that the model railroad market in Europe could support so many fine mass market steam loco models, while our market did not. Let's hope that has changed. Regards, Thomas Beutel San Francisco
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From: Leonello Pesce [mailto:leo@sco.COM] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 2:31 PM To: HOsteam@onelist.com Subject: [HOsteam] Hello From: Leonello Pesce <leo@sco.COM> Hello to all to this new steam list. I would like first to present myself to the list. I am an HO modeler, Southern Pacific late steam early diesel era. I am very fascinated by steam engines in general, but only from a model point of view, more than the actual working ones. This is because I like to watch them while running on the main, or just seating at the facilities. The main reason for liking SP steam so much is their particular look they have, especially in the later part of steam. But I also like other specific steam engines from other RR or even countries, like Germany and Italy. I do own a number of SP engines in brass, most old (the good runners) and some new (the good lookers). I have changed motors to can in a few, and other I no longer own. I do work on engines from embers of the club in Menlo Park (West Bay Model RR) and from a store I work one day a week. Mostly cleaning and lubing, including open frame motors. (some engines I got were very frozen for being stored for years in their boxes; and do not get me started on the foam being everywhere in the engine) The question of the day I guess is about the new two engines about to hit the market from Athearn and Bachmann. The first is a 2-8-2 USRA and the second is a 4-8-2 (USRA?) Is this a trend of good things to come? Anybody has seen either one yet? Any comments? Cheers Leo ========================================================================== Leonello Pesce support@sco.com SCO Tech Support http://www.sco.com 100 Pioneer, Santa Cruz, CA, 95061 (408) 425-4726 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that knowledge is power? http://www.ONElist.com Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keeping the memory of steam alive!
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Elden Baker <eldenbaker@...>
--- Leonello Pesce <leo@sco.COM> wrote:
The question of the day I guess is about the new twoLeo, I hope its trend starting. I haven't seen either of these engines but, they did pick a good model to be the first release. I'm hoping to pick up the Athearn unit when its available. I'll do a "product review" as soon as I do. Talk to you later Elden _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Nelson Kennedy <nelsonk@...
At 15:00 29/04/99 -0700, you wrote:
From: Elden Baker <eldenbaker@yahoo.com>... responding to Leo re new Genesis and Spectrum releases I hope its trend starting. I haven't seen either of these engines but, But.....but...... SP didn't have these USRA types (mumble mumble) What do you reckon Leo - might they be candidates for some sort of conversion to SP types? Nelson Kennedy, Christchurch, New Zealand Ferrymead Trams, 0 gauge NZR trains and a little Espee H0 are at: http://DownUnder.Railfan.net
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Stefan <stefan@...>
At 02:59 PM 4/29/99 -0700, you wrote:
From: Thomas Beutel <Thomas.Beutel@efi.com>Regarding the Bachmann URL, If you look carefully at the photo (though small) it seems that the taper in the boiler is not very great thereby possibly making it a better candidate for more kitbashes. I'm not sure about the glowing firebox idea though! it does seem that we are finally catching up to the Europeans who have had a fine selection for many years. Best regards Stefan Lerche' Duncan, B.C. Canada
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keith@...
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:16:54 +1200, you wrote:>
Um, well, there is going to be a Missouri Pacific. Is that close enough? ...Keith If it ain't pulled by steam, it ain't a real train.
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KenRClark@...
HO steam modelers,
It is unfortunate when a group of individuals or club decides that a model has no potential before it is released. Even more unfortunate is that the same model has convinced a brass importer that HO steam has limited potential for low cost models and to look elsewhere for sales. I talked yesterday with Sunset Models, because of the Athearn genesis model, they will not be doing their next planned models the USRA 2-8-2s. I can't say I am surprised. It seems they are stepping away from the HO scale field again, so don't expect their announced SP AC-9s to appear anytime soon. If they had been as well done as their F-3/4/5s they would have been a very desirable model. Admittedly I have not purchased any of the new state of the art articulateds recently imported, as much due to price (they cost more than what a Sunset AC-6 would have cost me in "O" scale) as to my satisfaction with the more rugged mechanisms of the older Japanese models. As far as the USRA light 2-8-2 model goes, some Western roads did not operate close copies of this generic engines, including "up" and WP. Comparing pictures of the El Paso and Southwestern mikes to the USRA engines show a similar boiler silhouette, and they originally had rectangular tenders. I don't expect to find a reasonably priced model of such obscure engines, but they became SP classes Mk-7/8/9 (25 total) and the Athearn model gives a shot and a representative model. I suppose I could kitbash a couplt of the W&R mikes and come as close, but throwing away major parts of $1200 models hurts more than discarding some parts of a $120 model. ken clark
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Leonello Pesce <leo@...>
Hi Nelson, and all,
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Well .... at the club we pretty much decided that the Athearn Mikado does not have potential, even by just getting the bottom part and scrap the top. Tender is for the junk box. For the Mountain, we have not seen it, just the info from the Bachmann site and the poor pictures I have see so far. It is a light USRA, so this also may not be a candidate for SP. Now if it was a Heavy, that would be different. Of course, both were part of a number of eastern RR and with some minor modifications one can model a good number of RR. Not being an eastern expert, I stop here. Cheers Leo From: Nelson Kennedy <nelsonk@chch.planet.org.nz>
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Leonello Pesce <leo@...>
Yes, and check out the following company: Weinert
They have a web site at http://www.weinert.net Some amazing steam engine kits. Cheers Leo PS. engines are German steam, not USA or others. From: "Stefan" <stefan@seaside.net><snip> though! it does seem that we are finally catching up to the Europeans who
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Leonello Pesce <leo@...>
Sorry Ken, but my comment was specific to SP (and possibly WP and ATSF),
not in general. I am sure that the engine will be bought and run at the club anyway, with Southern Pacific on its coal tender, and maybe even in Daylight colors. We have a member that has a GG1 in Daylight colors. Besides, one can always make a "plausible" model out of it. If it looks right, it is enough for some. Cheers Leo From: KenRClark@aol.commodel has no potential before it is released. Even more unfortunate is that the<snip> ken clark
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John Wilson <jackwils@...>
Hi, All!
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Some time ago I attempted to generate some interest on the <espee list> for a plastic Vandy tender or two for us SP guys who can't fford or do not want to spend the big bucks for so-so brass. I for one, after years of wanting, have accepted the Bachman Consolidation with open arms. Any 1930-1950 era SP layout needs a bunch of good running 2-8-0s but all we got were mikes and consol's that looked terrible and ran worse. My Bachmans needed some major work (especially for DCC) but are a heck of a lot better than nothing. With a couple of Rivarossi 4-8-8-2's, some "War babys" and 2-8-0 s, I can present a reasonable approximation of my Tehachapai layout of the '39-44 era. Now, if I could just find some good plastic Vandy tenders, I could probably use at least one or two of the Athern units and hope for more. Jack Wilson, Prescott, AZ Leonello Pesce wrote:
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