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Re: Drivers

prgm_mgr
 

Hi Rob
If push come to shove, perhaps you can replace the driver center, either by using as a pattern the one you have that is correct or having them made by a local casting shop or even by printing them.
You could always get enough of the wrong size ones and file down the counterweight but thats a lot for 6 engines and would be very difficult to get them to match, even on the same loco.

I'm curious why you want to replace them in the first place? Are the ones you have on the loco the wrong size or is it a pulling issue?
Good luck
Mark

Drivers

roblmclear
 

Hello to all and sorry for the cross postings but I have six of the BLI modernized ATSF 2-10-2's that I would like to replace the drivers with the traction tires.   I have tried BLI, Greenway Products and Bowser but no one seems to have the required type of driver.   The diameter across the tread excluding the flange is .700 of an inch.   It is spoked and has a small counterweight.   I really don't need the axles although to have them mounted would be handy I can always put them on to the axles from the existing Broadway Limited axels providing they are the same diameter.   I have attached a picture of the type I am looking for it is the driver on the right in the picture as the one on the left is the wrong size of counterweight.   Hoping someone can point me in the right directions.

Free Locomotive Testing at 2018 PSR Convention

SP4149
 


 

Subject: Free Locomotive Testing at 2018 PSR Convention

For those attending the PSR Convention Sept 12th-15th in San Diego,
 
 
I will have a diagnostic testing station in the layout room where I will test your problem locomotive.
The testing is free for Convention attendees and will take about 15-20 minutes.  
Sessions will start after the Thursday morning business meeting and last through Friday afternoon
as demand dictates.  See the web page below for details:
 
 
There will be three reserved sessions per hour, past experience indicates that walk-ups will be accommodated.
Discussion and demonstrations will be made during slack periods.  My  Diagnostic clinic will be running on a laptop at
the test station.
 
To secure a testing session before Sept 13nd, I am handling advance reservations
at Ken@....  Please indicate locomotive to be tested when 
making advanced reservations.  Note this service is for convention
attendees only.

 
When you think outside the box,
You are out of the loop.
Kenneth R. Clark
P.O. Box 212454
Chula Vista, CA 91921

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

PSR San Diego Convention loco test station

SP4149
 

All,


During Thursday and Friday  of the upcoming PSR convention in San Diego, I will setting up a loco test station set up in the layout room.  I should be able to diagnose newly purchased models

and recommend how to make that Ebay treasure run like it should.  Testing should start around 9am and continue until the evening break.  If you want to reserve a specific time contact me directly at this e-mail address.

Anticipate about 20 minutes per loco. Minor repairs and supplies may be provided.

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

Has Yahoo Groups kicked me out?

SP4149
 

I just attempted to reply to a post on a Yahoo groups list by using the website to search the archives.

However when I log into the website I am asked to change my e-mail address to Yahoo mail.
I already have a Yahoo mail account I do not use so I don't need another  Yahoo mail account.
I am allowed to log in to Yahoo but when I go to Groups.  I am no longer a member of any Groups.
 
I can find the groups by browsing the Groups list, but I have to rejoin the groups in order to see any
archives.  The lists I still visit on Yahoo Groups fall into three categories:
    Lists that are loyal to Yahoo Groups and have so far refused to move to Facebook, Google Groups, or groups.io
    Lists that have moved to groups.io or Facebook and from which I receive individual messages or Daily Digests.
    Lists that I own or share ownership and that I moved from YG to groups.io and for which I shut down the old YG lists
           to new posts  (twelve lists).
 
Over 20 lists on YG are affected (all the lists to which I had subscribed).  If this lost of ownership is widespread, 
then this will end lists leaving YG for groups.io, Google Groups, or facebook Groups.  
FWIW I have taken the Oath Pledge three times and until today I was having normal access to my lists on Yahoo Groups.
But admittedly this was mostly reading e-mails, I had not attempted to use admin functions on the YG website.
 
have no idea the duration of this interruption, or if it temporary or permanent.  If anyone is trying to transfer a list
from YG, this could be a major problem.

When you think outside the box,
You are out of the loop.
Kenneth R. Clark
P.O. Box 212454
Chula Vista, CA 91921




--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

Has Yahoo Groups kicked me out?

Ken Clark
 

I just attempted to reply to a post on a Yahoo groups list by using the website to search the archives.
However when I log into the website I am asked to change my e-mail address to Yahoo mail.
I already have a Yahoo mail account I do not use so I don't need another  Yahoo mail account.
I am allowed to log in to Yahoo but when I go to Groups.  I am no longer a member of any Groups.

I can find the groups by browsing the Groups list, but I have to rejoin the groups in order to see any
archives.  The lists I still visit on Yahoo Groups fall into three categories:
    Lists that are loyal to Yahoo Groups and have so far refused to move to Facebook, Google Groups, or groups.io
    Lists that have moved to groups.io or Facebook and from which I receive individual messages or Daily Digests.
    Lists that I own or share ownership and that I moved from YG to groups.io and for which I shut down the old YG lists
           to new posts  (twelve lists).

Over 20 lists on YG are affected (all the lists to which I had subscribed).  If this lost of ownership is widespread, 
then this will end lists leaving YG for groups.io, Google Groups, or facebook Groups.  
FWIW I have taken the Oath Pledge three times and until today I was having normal access to my lists on Yahoo Groups.
But admittedly this was mostly reading e-mails, I had not attempted to use admin functions on the YG website.

have no idea the duration of this interruption, or if it temporary or permanent.  If anyone is trying to transfer a list
from YG, this could be a major problem.

When you think outside the box,
You are out of the loop.
Kenneth R. Clark
P.O. Box 212454
Chula Vista, CA 91921

Re: [RepowerAndRegear] the problems in Yahoo Groups (YG)

Jon Miller
 

On 6/23/2018 7:42 AM, al45390 wrote:
Oath owned e-mail services view increased message traffic from groups.io as spam.

Or competition they don't want.  Change to another email, why fight them?

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Re: [RepowerAndRegear] the problems in Yahoo Groups (YG)

al45390
 

I agree wholeheartedly.

Regards,
Walter

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Larry Blanchard via Groups.Io <labl02@...> wrote:


On 06/22/2018 01:44 PM, SP4149 wrote:
Yes.  What has been happening is that these Oath owned e-mail services view increased message traffic from groups.io as spam.  Under current internet conventions groups.io has to unsubscribe e-mail addresses marked as spam by e-mail hosts.

Seems like this is a violation of the net neutrality we just lost - more reason to fight to get it back.





Re: [RepowerAndRegear] the problems in Yahoo Groups (YG)

Larry Blanchard
 

On 06/22/2018 01:44 PM, SP4149 wrote:
Yes. What has been happening is that these Oath owned e-mail services view increased message traffic from groups.io as spam. Under current internet conventions groups.io has to unsubscribe e-mail addresses marked as spam by e-mail hosts.
Seems like this is a violation of the net neutrality we just lost - more reason to fight to get it back.

Re: [RepowerAndRegear] the problems in Yahoo Groups (YG)

SP4149
 

Yes.  What has been happening is that these Oath owned e-mail services view increased message traffic from groups.io as spam.  Under current internet conventions groups.io has to unsubscribe e-mail addresses marked as spam by e-mail hosts. What groups.io has been doing is immediately inviting the member to rejoin and explaining why they were unsubscribed.  The Oath pledge has just added another wrinkle to this e-mail kerfuffle.  Once I took the Oath Pledge for access to my aol.com email, my access to Yahoo groups improved.  And I could see my AOL emails again.

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



On 2018-06-22 13:15, Randy Largent wrote:

Really!
They can force our IO Groups to terminate us?
If that happens I assume we can re-subscribe?
RandyL

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 4:11 PM, SP4149 <ken@...> wrote:

Randy,

  Both.  Oath published a business plan as a mobile media company, so desktop software support like e-mail and lists at YahooGroups are not in that target group.  Technical support access from Verizon ended last month and so far Oath has not stepped up.  Of a greater concern is that they have been forcing lists on groups.io to unsubscribe members who have not taken the Oath pledge for their e-mail provider (those now controlled by Oath).  If you have been asked to take the Oath Pledge and declined, you may find yourself denied access to lists on YG and have your e-mail address marked as spam by Oath forcing groups.io to terminate your subscription.  This last week several instances of the latter, unsubscription from lists on groups.io by Oath for users of AOL.com e-mail.  Previously it had been Yahoo.mail

And hopefully for those who are trying to access lists on YahooGroups they may realize that the Oath Pledge is why their access has been denied.


On 2018-06-22 12:35, Randy Largent wrote:

Hello.
Is this message just to keep us updated with the vagaries of Yahoo Groups and/or will this affect the IO Groups you have created?
Thanks
Randy largent

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 11:19 AM, SP4149 <ken@...> wrote:

Quietly over a year ago YahooGroups required list owners to have Yahoo mail accounts, or else, no access.

Oath Recently went further in regard to the Oath "Pledge of Obedience"

YahooGroup list owners were sent notice of the "Oath Pledge of Obedience" to their Yahoo.mail accounts.  Many, not like me never read messages in their Yahoo.mail accounts. May 18, 2018

   And many never saw the threat at the end of the message. (see below)

Please note that although our services will continue to be available under the existing terms for now, you will eventually need to agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy in order to continue to use our services.

If you ignored the "Oath Pledge", don't expect support from Oath to access your list on YG.  

 
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Yahoo <Yahoo@...m>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018, 11:45:15 AM PDT
Subject: Reminder: Important update to our Terms of Service & Privacy Policy
 
We have a new unified Terms of Service and Privacy Policy
  Dear Member,
(sp4149@...)

In June 2017, Yahoo and AOL joined forces to create Oath, a media and technology company with a dynamic house of global brands, and a part of Verizon. It's an exciting venture that we believe will bring a host of new innovations and digital experiences for our users. With Verizon, Oath can provide you with better experiences and services.

As part of this collaboration, we're asking all users of Oath owned sites and services to agree to the new unified Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, which will help us continue to deliver and build on great digital experiences for you.

Please take some time to review and agree to the new unified Terms of Service and Privacy Policy by clicking on the button below. If you have already agreed, no additional action is needed.

Review and agree now

To help you understand some of the key updates, we've provided a summary below as well as a description of what tools are available to you to manage your data and experience within Oath's house of brands. Please note that this summary is not exhaustive and we encourage you to review the updated versions of our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Those terms and not this summary will govern your relationship with Oath. To learn more about our approach to privacy, click here.

Terms of Service Updates Summary
  • We've added a mutual arbitration clause. Hopefully, disputes will never be an issue, but in the case of one, this allows a third-party arbitrator to help us resolve them. We've also added a class action waiver. These provisions are an important part of our relationship with you, so please read them carefully.
  • We've specified the legal entity that provides each service to you. For some services, this may be a different entity than the entity that previously provided the service. We've also reserved the right to transfer the providing entity for each service in the future.
  • General provisions that apply to billing, auto-renewal, and refunds have been added. Unless the additional terms for a service override the Terms of Service, these provisions apply to your use of our paid services.
  • Applicability of Terms. If you are using our services on behalf of another account owner (e.g., as an administrator, consultant or analyst) or on behalf of a company, business or other entity, the Terms of Service apply to your activities and are binding on the account owner or entity.
  • Indemnity for Non-Personal Use. If you are using our Services on behalf of a company, business or other entity, or if you are using our Services for commercial purposes, we've added an indemnity provision, which requires you and the entity to protect us against certain legal actions.
  • We've updated our choice of law and forum provisions. New York law now governs and New York, New York is the designated forum.

Privacy Policy Updates Summary
  • We've made it more readable! We took care to make it easier for you to understand our services and our privacy practices.
  • We've updated how we collect and use data. We've updated some of the ways we collect and analyze user data in order to deliver services, content, and relevant advertising to you and protect against abuse. This includes:
    • Analyzing content and information (including emails, instant messages, posts, photos, attachments, and other communications) when you use our services. This allows us to deliver, personalize and develop relevant features, content, advertising and services
    • Linking your activity on third-party sites and apps with information we have about you
    • Providing anonymized and aggregated reports to other parties regarding user trends
  • We've joined Verizon. By joining Verizon, Oath and its affiliates may share the information we receive among Verizon. Learn more about Verizon's privacy practices.
  • New information regarding personalization. We've included new information explaining how we combine data among our services and across your devices and Oath accounts. This allows us to provide more personalized content and services.
  • We've updated user choices. We've provided additional information about your choices when using our services, and given you control in our Privacy Controlssection. 

What You Need to Do

We have designed these changes to help improve your experience with Oath and its brands. To review and agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, please click the button below. These changes go into effect as soon as you consent. 

Review and agree now

Please note that although our services will continue to be available under the existing terms for now, you will eventually need to agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy in order to continue to use our services. If you have any questions or need additional help, please refer to this link.

Thank you for your continued loyalty and support.


Sincerely,
Oath


 
     
 



 
 




On 2018-06-22 07:18, Walter Bayer II wrote:

Hi Don,
 
Looks like you are not the only owner that cannot access the group he owns. See

Regards,
Walter

-

--
ken clark
mechanical solutions to mechanical problems
electrical solutions to electrical problems




--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

Re: [RepowerAndRegear] the problems in Yahoo Groups (YG)

SP4149
 

Randy,

  Both.  Oath published a business plan as a mobile media company, so desktop software support like e-mail and lists at YahooGroups are not in that target group.  Technical support access from Verizon ended last month and so far Oath has not stepped up.  Of a greater concern is that they have been forcing lists on groups.io to unsubscribe members who have not taken the Oath pledge for their e-mail provider (those now controlled by Oath).  If you have been asked to take the Oath Pledge and declined, you may find yourself denied access to lists on YG and have your e-mail address marked as spam by Oath forcing groups.io to terminate your subscription.  This last week several instances of the latter, unsubscription from lists on groups.io by Oath for users of AOL.com e-mail.  Previously it had been Yahoo.mail

And hopefully for those who are trying to access lists on YahooGroups they may realize that the Oath Pledge is why their access has been denied.

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



On 2018-06-22 12:35, Randy Largent wrote:

Hello.
Is this message just to keep us updated with the vagaries of Yahoo Groups and/or will this affect the IO Groups you have created?
Thanks
Randy largent

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 11:19 AM, SP4149 <ken@...> wrote:

Quietly over a year ago YahooGroups required list owners to have Yahoo mail accounts, or else, no access.

Oath Recently went further in regard to the Oath "Pledge of Obedience"

YahooGroup list owners were sent notice of the "Oath Pledge of Obedience" to their Yahoo.mail accounts.  Many, not like me never read messages in their Yahoo.mail accounts. May 18, 2018

   And many never saw the threat at the end of the message. (see below)

Please note that although our services will continue to be available under the existing terms for now, you will eventually need to agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy in order to continue to use our services.

If you ignored the "Oath Pledge", don't expect support from Oath to access your list on YG.  

 
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Yahoo <Yahoo@....com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018, 11:45:15 AM PDT
Subject: Reminder: Important update to our Terms of Service & Privacy Policy
 
We have a new unified Terms of Service and Privacy Policy
  Dear Member,
(sp4149@...)

In June 2017, Yahoo and AOL joined forces to create Oath, a media and technology company with a dynamic house of global brands, and a part of Verizon. It's an exciting venture that we believe will bring a host of new innovations and digital experiences for our users. With Verizon, Oath can provide you with better experiences and services.

As part of this collaboration, we're asking all users of Oath owned sites and services to agree to the new unified Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, which will help us continue to deliver and build on great digital experiences for you.

Please take some time to review and agree to the new unified Terms of Service and Privacy Policy by clicking on the button below. If you have already agreed, no additional action is needed.

Review and agree now

To help you understand some of the key updates, we've provided a summary below as well as a description of what tools are available to you to manage your data and experience within Oath's house of brands. Please note that this summary is not exhaustive and we encourage you to review the updated versions of our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Those terms and not this summary will govern your relationship with Oath. To learn more about our approach to privacy, click here.

Terms of Service Updates Summary
  • We've added a mutual arbitration clause. Hopefully, disputes will never be an issue, but in the case of one, this allows a third-party arbitrator to help us resolve them. We've also added a class action waiver. These provisions are an important part of our relationship with you, so please read them carefully.
  • We've specified the legal entity that provides each service to you. For some services, this may be a different entity than the entity that previously provided the service. We've also reserved the right to transfer the providing entity for each service in the future.
  • General provisions that apply to billing, auto-renewal, and refunds have been added. Unless the additional terms for a service override the Terms of Service, these provisions apply to your use of our paid services.
  • Applicability of Terms. If you are using our services on behalf of another account owner (e.g., as an administrator, consultant or analyst) or on behalf of a company, business or other entity, the Terms of Service apply to your activities and are binding on the account owner or entity.
  • Indemnity for Non-Personal Use. If you are using our Services on behalf of a company, business or other entity, or if you are using our Services for commercial purposes, we've added an indemnity provision, which requires you and the entity to protect us against certain legal actions.
  • We've updated our choice of law and forum provisions. New York law now governs and New York, New York is the designated forum.

Privacy Policy Updates Summary
  • We've made it more readable! We took care to make it easier for you to understand our services and our privacy practices.
  • We've updated how we collect and use data. We've updated some of the ways we collect and analyze user data in order to deliver services, content, and relevant advertising to you and protect against abuse. This includes:
    • Analyzing content and information (including emails, instant messages, posts, photos, attachments, and other communications) when you use our services. This allows us to deliver, personalize and develop relevant features, content, advertising and services
    • Linking your activity on third-party sites and apps with information we have about you
    • Providing anonymized and aggregated reports to other parties regarding user trends
  • We've joined Verizon. By joining Verizon, Oath and its affiliates may share the information we receive among Verizon. Learn more about Verizon's privacy practices.
  • New information regarding personalization. We've included new information explaining how we combine data among our services and across your devices and Oath accounts. This allows us to provide more personalized content and services.
  • We've updated user choices. We've provided additional information about your choices when using our services, and given you control in our Privacy Controlssection. 

What You Need to Do

We have designed these changes to help improve your experience with Oath and its brands. To review and agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, please click the button below. These changes go into effect as soon as you consent. 

Review and agree now

Please note that although our services will continue to be available under the existing terms for now, you will eventually need to agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy in order to continue to use our services. If you have any questions or need additional help, please refer to this link.

Thank you for your continued loyalty and support.


Sincerely,
Oath


 
     
 



 
 




On 2018-06-22 07:18, Walter Bayer II wrote:

Hi Don,
 
Looks like you are not the only owner that cannot access the group he owns. See

Regards,
Walter

-

--
ken clark
mechanical solutions to mechanical problems
electrical solutions to electrical problems




--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

Re: the problems in Yahoo Groups (YG)

SP4149
 

Quietly over a year ago YahooGroups required list owners to have Yahoo mail accounts, or else, no access.

Oath Recently went further in regard to the Oath "Pledge of Obedience"

YahooGroup list owners were sent notice of the "Oath Pledge of Obedience" to their Yahoo.mail accounts.  Many, not like me never read messages in their Yahoo.mail accounts. May 18, 2018

   And many never saw the threat at the end of the message. (see below)

Please note that although our services will continue to be available under the existing terms for now, you will eventually need to agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy in order to continue to use our services.

If you ignored the "Oath Pledge", don't expect support from Oath to access your list on YG.  

 
----- Forwarded Message -----

From: Yahoo <Yahoo@...>
To: "sp4149@..." <sp4149@...>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018, 11:45:15 AM PDT
Subject: Reminder: Important update to our Terms of Service & Privacy Policy
 
We have a new unified Terms of Service and Privacy Policy
  Dear Member,
(sp4149@...)

In June 2017, Yahoo and AOL joined forces to create Oath, a media and technology company with a dynamic house of global brands, and a part of Verizon. It's an exciting venture that we believe will bring a host of new innovations and digital experiences for our users. With Verizon, Oath can provide you with better experiences and services.

As part of this collaboration, we're asking all users of Oath owned sites and services to agree to the new unified Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, which will help us continue to deliver and build on great digital experiences for you.

Please take some time to review and agree to the new unified Terms of Service and Privacy Policy by clicking on the button below. If you have already agreed, no additional action is needed.

Review and agree now

To help you understand some of the key updates, we've provided a summary below as well as a description of what tools are available to you to manage your data and experience within Oath's house of brands. Please note that this summary is not exhaustive and we encourage you to review the updated versions of our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Those terms and not this summary will govern your relationship with Oath. To learn more about our approach to privacy, click here.

Terms of Service Updates Summary
  • We've added a mutual arbitration clause. Hopefully, disputes will never be an issue, but in the case of one, this allows a third-party arbitrator to help us resolve them. We've also added a class action waiver. These provisions are an important part of our relationship with you, so please read them carefully.
  • We've specified the legal entity that provides each service to you. For some services, this may be a different entity than the entity that previously provided the service. We've also reserved the right to transfer the providing entity for each service in the future.
  • General provisions that apply to billing, auto-renewal, and refunds have been added. Unless the additional terms for a service override the Terms of Service, these provisions apply to your use of our paid services.
  • Applicability of Terms. If you are using our services on behalf of another account owner (e.g., as an administrator, consultant or analyst) or on behalf of a company, business or other entity, the Terms of Service apply to your activities and are binding on the account owner or entity.
  • Indemnity for Non-Personal Use. If you are using our Services on behalf of a company, business or other entity, or if you are using our Services for commercial purposes, we've added an indemnity provision, which requires you and the entity to protect us against certain legal actions.
  • We've updated our choice of law and forum provisions. New York law now governs and New York, New York is the designated forum.

Privacy Policy Updates Summary
  • We've made it more readable! We took care to make it easier for you to understand our services and our privacy practices.
  • We've updated how we collect and use data. We've updated some of the ways we collect and analyze user data in order to deliver services, content, and relevant advertising to you and protect against abuse. This includes:
    • Analyzing content and information (including emails, instant messages, posts, photos, attachments, and other communications) when you use our services. This allows us to deliver, personalize and develop relevant features, content, advertising and services
    • Linking your activity on third-party sites and apps with information we have about you
    • Providing anonymized and aggregated reports to other parties regarding user trends
  • We've joined Verizon. By joining Verizon, Oath and its affiliates may share the information we receive among Verizon. Learn more about Verizon's privacy practices.
  • New information regarding personalization. We've included new information explaining how we combine data among our services and across your devices and Oath accounts. This allows us to provide more personalized content and services.
  • We've updated user choices. We've provided additional information about your choices when using our services, and given you control in our Privacy Controlssection. 

What You Need to Do

We have designed these changes to help improve your experience with Oath and its brands. To review and agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, please click the button below. These changes go into effect as soon as you consent. 

Review and agree now

Please note that although our services will continue to be available under the existing terms for now, you will eventually need to agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy in order to continue to use our services. If you have any questions or need additional help, please refer to this link.

Thank you for your continued loyalty and support.


Sincerely,
Oath


 
     
 



 
 



ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



On 2018-06-22 07:18, Walter Bayer II wrote:

Hi Don,
 
Looks like you are not the only owner that cannot access the group he owns. See

Regards,
Walter

-

--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

AOL e-mail and the Oath pledge and SPAM unsubscription

SP4149
 

Very recently on several groups.io lists I moderate, I am seeing list members with aol.com e-mail addresses unsubscribed (groups.io e-mail flagged as spam by their e-mail provider), most immediately rejoin with the same AOL e-mail address.  


About a month ago Oath blocked e-mail delivery to my aol e-mail account unless I took the OATH pledge to hold Oath blameless no matter what.  I took the Oath pledge and my e-mail delivery resumed.

For those unfamiliar with Oath; it is a new company created after Verizon acquired Yahoo and AOL.  It's business plan is as a mobile media provider and to date it has been unclear about plans of YahooGroups and the e-mail providers it acquired.  What has been clear recently is that Oath has gone from dormant to aggressive.  They certainly have the ability to identify Oath customers who have left Oath for lists on Google, Facebook, and groups.io   Of those three list host competitors, groups.io is definitely the weakest and most vulnerable.  And if your e-mail provider is now part of Oath or controlled by Oath and you haven't taken the Oath pledge; Oath's current action may seem like harassment.

I fully understand those who won't take the Oath pledge, when as a list owner on YahooGroups, I refused; However delivery of my AOL e-mail was a different story and I surrendered.  If you do not want to take the Oath pledge, I recommend getting a non-Oath e-mail account and using that for your list membership on groups.io

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

Was there ever a model of a Baldwin (or Alco) 90 ton Mike in HO?

SP4149
 

A long time puzzle of the hobby for me is why one of the most familiar, identifiable railroads in the country, The Sierra Railroad, has never had a quality book or HO models
of it's primary locomotives.  It's not for lack of documentation, or access, Jamestown is now a state railroad museum, and much of the equipment still exists.

I am well aware of the oversize HO models of #3 and #38,
But #36 a 90 ton 2-8-2 would seem to be a natural for a small to medium size model railroad, shortline railroad.
I have the NWSL 70 ton Mikes, but in California we also had bigger shortline mikes (SMV, McCloud, Sierra) a void that seems to be unfilled.

So if you want a 90 ton Mike in HO how would you get one?
--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

Grate new product, Southern Pacific Daylight paint 2-8-0 with DCC and smoke and coal tender in HO !!!

SP4149
 

MSRP  $450

Makes the GGD "Harriman" cars look like a real value...

 

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



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ken clark
HO and Sn42

Re: Mantua Logging mallets - Driver size

Bob Weston
 

I have a Mantua 2-6-6-2 Mallet and the drivers measured .590” or about 52 scale inches.
Bob Weston 

Mantua Logging mallets - Driver size

SP4149
 

I haven't had one of these for a long time, and then only briefly.
One big problem with the PFM logging 2-6-6-2 is that the drivers are 10% oversize and the whole engine was proportionately inflated.
The NWSL logging mallets had even smaller size drivers (44-45") than the 51" drivers of Weyerhaeuser #4 &  #120 or the 56-57"
drivers of PFM #38,
What size(scale inches) are the drivers used by Mantua in their logging 2-6-6-2 (t) locos?
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ken clark
HO and Sn42

FS - Resistance Soldering equipment

SP4149
 

After the recent discussion on resistance soldering; I dug deep into my workshop
and found some interesting extras and orphans...

I have Hotip 200 watt units - used, working, with and without handpieces.

PBL sells the new Hotip units for close to $700, including the carbon probe $165 and the Tweezers $155.
 
This is the list of available resistance soldering units.  Shipping is extra.

Working 200W unit, good condition, with foot switch, no handpiece$125

Working 200W unit, excellent condition, with foot switch, no handpiece $145
 
Working 200W unit,excellent condition with foot switch, except shaft of selector switch broken in transit, repair or replace rotary selector switch $70

Working
300W unit, grunge condition, with foot switch, Hotip tweezers. $225

Working 200W unit, excellent condition, with foot switch, Hotip tweezers.   $195
 
American Beauty Resistance soldering list
 
I also have some used, good condition, American Beauty Fixed Dual Probe Style Handpieces for $65 (Note:
the taper pin terminals have to be replaced with ring terminals to use with the Hotip units)
 

Working 100 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $125

Working 250 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $195
 
WASSCO(AB) 500 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $255
 
Working 1000 watt (350W, 650 watt selector) ring terminals
                   with HD carbon clamp tweezers for copper pipe up to 1"                 $245
 
 

 
Procraft Electric Soldering Machine 1000 watt two leads, no handpieces, untested $200
 
Shipping USPS Priority Mail based on actual package weight and destination address
Credit cards accepted thru Paypal with 3% fee added.

I send a Paypal invoice for records purposes,
you can pay by check or money order and deduct the 3% Paypal fee
 
Kenneth R. Clark
P.O. Box 212454
Chula Vista, CA 91921



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ken clark
HO and Sn42

Re: The end of the line for Grandt Line

Ken Clark
 

Cliff Grandt's long time interest was narrow gauge, especially Colorado.  They produced plastic detail parts for structures,
and cars in a variety of scales. complete kits in On3 for tank cars and drop bottom gondolas, and detail parts for craftsman
kits produced by other manufacturers.  They produced Delrin freight and passenger car trucks, replacement mechanisms
for the Kemtron Shay and the LMB RGS Goose.  Plan books for narrow gauge and logging equipment.  And tiny 'critter'
locomotives in HOn3 and On3.  When scratchbuilding you checked the Grandt catalog to see how many parts were already
available so you could concentrate on the rest.

When you think outside the box,
You are out of the loop.
Kenneth R. Clark
P.O. Box 212454
Chula Vista, CA 91921



-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Long <acl-wayne@...>
To: HO-Steam <HO-Steam@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Mar 15, 2018 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: [HO-Steam] The end of the line for Grandt Line



On 3/15/2018 12:21 AM, SP4149 wrote:
Grandt Line is calling it quits.
Please pardon my ignorance, but I can't recall ever dealing with Grandt Line.

From what you have indicated just below, their operation was similar in products to NWSL.  In what did they specialize?

Wayne Long

Over the years I have used their  universals, gears, and even a motor or two in a variety of projects
and built many kits using their detail parts.  I once worked in a hobby shop and once a month we did a Grandt Line
inventory with a distributor who carried their full line in the trunk of his large sedan.  Almost every scale I owned
had some Grandt parts that were usable.

I have an On3 RGS 3 truck brass Goose with a Grandt replacement drive.  It runs great but one driver wheel is slightly off-center
so it 'wobbles' down the track.  I was running it on a friend's large O/On3 layout when the Grandt's happened to
visit, and they told me to wirte them and they would send me a replacement geared driver.  About the same time I visited
the Colorado Railroad Museum during an 'Operations' day.  That year they didn't have any steam engines operational, so they
were running a Goose on their trackage. WE may not have run more than a quarter mile on their tracks, but by the end I was shaken,
not stirred.  I never replaced that driver, even though it didn't shake the model as much as the real thing.

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ken clark
HO and Sn42

Re: The end of the line for Grandt Line

Wayne Long
 



On 3/15/2018 12:21 AM, SP4149 wrote:

Grandt Line is calling it quits.


https://www.grandtline.com/

Please pardon my ignorance, but I can't recall ever dealing with Grandt Line.

From what you have indicated just below, their operation was similar in products to NWSL.  In what did they specialize?

Wayne Long


Over the years I have used their  universals, gears, and even a motor or two in a variety of projects

and built many kits using their detail parts.  I once worked in a hobby shop and once a month we did a Grandt Line

inventory with a distributor who carried their full line in the trunk of his large sedan.  Almost every scale I owned

had some Grandt parts that were usable.


I have an On3 RGS 3 truck brass Goose with a Grandt replacement drive.  It runs great but one driver wheel is slightly off-center

so it 'wobbles' down the track.  I was running it on a friend's large O/On3 layout when the Grandt's happened to

visit, and they told me to wirte them and they would send me a replacement geared driver.  About the same time I visited

the Colorado Railroad Museum during an 'Operations' day.  That year they didn't have any steam engines operational, so they

were running a Goose on their trackage. WE may not have run more than a quarter mile on their tracks, but by the end I was shaken,

not stirred.  I never replaced that driver, even though it didn't shake the model as much as the real thing.


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ken clark
HO and Sn42