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Update on Resistance Soldering Equipment

SP4149
 

All,

  Since my last sale notice I  had several inquiries and some purchases, thank you.

I also found out some important information about some of the commonly available systems I had listed.

First the nicely made Triton PTH Hot Lips tweezers with Carbon Electrodes require a transformer with 6-6.5 volts AC output.

If they are equipped with the optional R12188 - Soldering Tip, they work best with 3-3.2 volts AC output.

Below is a table of output voltages for the most common PBL/Hotip/Contact Inc. transformers:

Resistance Soldering Unit Wattage Voltage
HOTIP    Low         High  
H-101 CD 100? 0.2 0.9 1.1 1.3 1.6
             
H-101 A 200 1.6 1.9 2.3 3.0 3.8
             
New Style H-101 A 200 1.6 1.9 2.4 3.0 4.0
             
H-202 300 2.4 2.6 3.0 3.4 4.0
             
New Style  H-303 CD ? 0.2 0.6 1.1 1.5 1.8
             
New Style - H-505 400 0.8 1.7 2.6 3.5 4.4
 
None of these are usable with the Triton Hot Lips tweezers with the carbon electrodes.  I will be updating the excel spreadsheet
I shared two weeks ago with this new information.  Note the installation of the Triton  R12188 - Soldering Tip makes these tweezers 
usable several of the larger Hotip units.
 
Only the American Beauty 500 watt RS unit (max AC output 6 volts) and the AB 1000 watt RS unit (max AC output 6.9  volts)  will
work with the Triton Hot Lips Carbon electrode tweezers without modification.  
 
I have some footswitch versions (no on/off switch in tweezers) without electrodes for sale at $25 plus shipping. 
If you have some basic milling skills, you can make your own electrode holders out of brass to fit in the tweezers,
Just like the Triton  R12188 - Soldering Tip below bottom right

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



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ken clark
HO and Sn42

UP 4-12-2 movie

frank bongiovanni
 

Indirectly about HO steam.  Years ago I saw a movie (I think Blackhawk, possibly Sunday River)entitled Pacing UP Steam in Nebraska.  It showed ongoing film of a UP 4-8-2 and a 4-12-2.  I haven't been able to find it on film or video since then.  By any chance does anyone have a copy that they would be willing to sell or have scanned??  

I said indirectly; watching that 4-12-2 from the side at speed got me obsessed with the locomotive until I got the model (an ancient LMB).

Frank Bongiovanni

Re: For Sale - Resistance Soldering equipment

Ken Clark
 

Mark,
  Send me a photo of your damaged tweezers.  I have a couple of light duty Hotip tweezers missing collets that might be enough to restore your damaged one.
Hotip makes about six versions that PBL sells, major difference is in the collets/tips on the handpieces..
No problem selling you the complete unit as well.

ken

-----Original Message-----
From: M. A. Eden via groups.io <edenma@...>
To: HO-Steam@groups.io; ken@...
Sent: Sun, May 17, 2020 11:21 am
Subject: Re: [HO-Steam] For Sale - Resistance Soldering equipment

Ken:

I will take this unit if it is still available.  Again, all I really need are the tweezers but it never hurts to have a couple of spare transformers!

Working 200W unit, excellent condition, with foot switch, Hotip tweezers.   $195

Cheers!

Mark

On May 16, 2020, at 00:57, SP4149 <ken@...> wrote:


After the recent discussion on resistance soldering; I dug deep into my workshop
and found some interesting extras and orphans...

I have Hotip 200 watt units - used, working, with and without handpieces.

PBL sells the new Hotip units for close to $700, including the carbon probe $165 and the Tweezers $155.
 
This is the list of available resistance soldering units.  Shipping is extra.

Working 200W unit, good condition, with foot switch, no handpiece$125

Working 200W unit, excellent condition, with foot switch, no handpiece $145
 
Working 200W unit,excellent condition with foot switch, except shaft of selector switch broken in transit, repair or replace rotary selector switch $70

Working 
300W unit, grunge condition, with foot switch, Hotip tweezers. $225

Working 200W unit, excellent condition, with foot switch, Hotip tweezers.   $195
 
American Beauty Resistance soldering list
 
I also have some used, good condition, American Beauty Fixed Dual Probe Style Handpieces for $65 (Note:
the taper pin terminals have to be replaced with ring terminals to use with the Hotip units)
 
Working 100 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $125
Working 250 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $195
 
WASSCO(AB) 500 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $255
 
Working 1000 watt (350W, 650 watt selector) ring terminals
                   with HD carbon clamp tweezers for copper pipe up to 1"                 $245
 
 

 
Procraft Electric Soldering Machine 1000 watt two leads, no handpieces, untested $200
 
Shipping USPS Priority Mail based on actual package weight and destination address
Credit cards accepted thru Paypal with 3% fee added.

I send a Paypal invoice for records purposes,
you can pay by check or money order and deduct the 3% Paypal fee
 

 In addition to the soldering handpieces I posted earlier
I have a variety of RS transformers available, private email for complete listing

I have Hotip 200 watt units and 300 watt units - used, working, with and without handpieces.
These are the older style units with brown (200watt) and green (300watt) labels
PBL sells the new Hotip units for close to $700, including the carbon probe $165 and the Tweezers $155.

American Beauty /Wasco Resistance soldering units

Working 100 watt /250 watt transformers with taper pin terminals and adjustible output
WASCO(AB) 500 watt transformer with taper pin terminal 

Working Wasco1000 watt (350W, 650 watt selector) ring terminals
with HD carbon clamp tweezers for copper pipe up to 1" $245

Procraft Electric Soldering Machine 1000 watt two leads, no handpieces, untested $200

Shipping USPS Priority Mail based on actual package weight and destination address
Credit cards accepted thru Paypal with 3% fee added.
I send a Paypal invoice for records purposes,
you can pay by check or money order and deduct the 3% Paypal fee

ken clark
www.shastasprings.com

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ken clark
HO and Sn42

Re: For Sale - Resistance Soldering equipment

M. A. Eden
 

Ken:

I will take this unit if it is still available.  Again, all I really need are the tweezers but it never hurts to have a couple of spare transformers!

Working 200W unit, excellent condition, with foot switch, Hotip tweezers.   $195

Cheers!

Mark

On May 16, 2020, at 00:57, SP4149 <ken@...> wrote:


After the recent discussion on resistance soldering; I dug deep into my workshop
and found some interesting extras and orphans...

I have Hotip 200 watt units - used, working, with and without handpieces.

PBL sells the new Hotip units for close to $700, including the carbon probe $165 and the Tweezers $155.
 
This is the list of available resistance soldering units.  Shipping is extra.

Working 200W unit, good condition, with foot switch, no handpiece$125

Working 200W unit, excellent condition, with foot switch, no handpiece $145
 
Working 200W unit,excellent condition with foot switch, except shaft of selector switch broken in transit, repair or replace rotary selector switch $70

Working 
300W unit, grunge condition, with foot switch, Hotip tweezers. $225

Working 200W unit, excellent condition, with foot switch, Hotip tweezers.   $195
 
American Beauty Resistance soldering list
 
I also have some used, good condition, American Beauty Fixed Dual Probe Style Handpieces for $65 (Note:
the taper pin terminals have to be replaced with ring terminals to use with the Hotip units)
 

Working 100 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $125

Working 250 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $195
 
WASSCO(AB) 500 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $255
 
Working 1000 watt (350W, 650 watt selector) ring terminals
                   with HD carbon clamp tweezers for copper pipe up to 1"                 $245
 
 

 
Procraft Electric Soldering Machine 1000 watt two leads, no handpieces, untested $200
 
Shipping USPS Priority Mail based on actual package weight and destination address
Credit cards accepted thru Paypal with 3% fee added.

I send a Paypal invoice for records purposes,
you can pay by check or money order and deduct the 3% Paypal fee
 


 In addition to the soldering handpieces I posted earlier

I have a variety of RS transformers available, private email for complete listing


I have Hotip 200 watt units and 300 watt units - used, working, with and without handpieces.

These are the older style units with brown (200watt) and green (300watt) labels

PBL sells the new Hotip units for close to $700, including the carbon probe $165 and the Tweezers $155.


American Beauty /Wasco Resistance soldering units

Working 100 watt /250 watt transformers with taper pin terminals and adjustible output

WASCO(AB) 500 watt transformer with taper pin terminal 

Working Wasco1000 watt (350W, 650 watt selector) ring terminals
with HD carbon clamp tweezers for copper pipe up to 1" $245

Procraft Electric Soldering Machine 1000 watt two leads, no handpieces, untested $200

Shipping USPS Priority Mail based on actual package weight and destination address
Credit cards accepted thru Paypal with 3% fee added.

I send a Paypal invoice for records purposes,
you can pay by check or money order and deduct the 3% Paypal fee


ken clark

www.shastasprings.com


--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

For Sale - Resistance Soldering equipment

SP4149
 

After the recent discussion on resistance soldering; I dug deep into my workshop
and found some interesting extras and orphans...

I have Hotip 200 watt units - used, working, with and without handpieces.

PBL sells the new Hotip units for close to $700, including the carbon probe $165 and the Tweezers $155.
 
This is the list of available resistance soldering units.  Shipping is extra.

Working 200W unit, good condition, with foot switch, no handpiece$125

Working 200W unit, excellent condition, with foot switch, no handpiece $145
 
Working 200W unit,excellent condition with foot switch, except shaft of selector switch broken in transit, repair or replace rotary selector switch $70

Working 
300W unit, grunge condition, with foot switch, Hotip tweezers. $225

Working 200W unit, excellent condition, with foot switch, Hotip tweezers.   $195
 
American Beauty Resistance soldering list
 
I also have some used, good condition, American Beauty Fixed Dual Probe Style Handpieces for $65 (Note:
the taper pin terminals have to be replaced with ring terminals to use with the Hotip units)
 

Working 100 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $125

Working 250 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $195
 
WASSCO(AB) 500 watt transformer with taper pin terminal dual tip handpiece  $255
 
Working 1000 watt (350W, 650 watt selector) ring terminals
                   with HD carbon clamp tweezers for copper pipe up to 1"                 $245
 
 

 
Procraft Electric Soldering Machine 1000 watt two leads, no handpieces, untested $200
 
Shipping USPS Priority Mail based on actual package weight and destination address
Credit cards accepted thru Paypal with 3% fee added.

I send a Paypal invoice for records purposes,
you can pay by check or money order and deduct the 3% Paypal fee
 


 In addition to the soldering handpieces I posted earlier

I have a variety of RS transformers available, private email for complete listing


I have Hotip 200 watt units and 300 watt units - used, working, with and without handpieces.

These are the older style units with brown (200watt) and green (300watt) labels

PBL sells the new Hotip units for close to $700, including the carbon probe $165 and the Tweezers $155.


American Beauty /Wasco Resistance soldering units

Working 100 watt /250 watt transformers with taper pin terminals and adjustible output

WASCO(AB) 500 watt transformer with taper pin terminal 

Working Wasco1000 watt (350W, 650 watt selector) ring terminals
with HD carbon clamp tweezers for copper pipe up to 1" $245

Procraft Electric Soldering Machine 1000 watt two leads, no handpieces, untested $200

Shipping USPS Priority Mail based on actual package weight and destination address
Credit cards accepted thru Paypal with 3% fee added.

I send a Paypal invoice for records purposes,
you can pay by check or money order and deduct the 3% Paypal fee


ken clark

www.shastasprings.com


--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

Re: For sale - Espee Flat Face cab forwards HO scale

M. A. Eden
 

Ken:

I’ll take either of the AC-6s.

My shipping address is:

Mark A. Eden
6563 Iroquois Trail
Evergreen, CO 80439
303-912-4596

Also, I liked your email on the soldering probes and tweezers.  Do you happen to know what size Allen wrench is used on the Contact Inc. tweezer tip holders?

Do you happen to have a surplus set of tweezers?  I broke mine this morning trying to replace the tips.

Cheers!

Mark

On May 15, 2020, at 18:49, SP4149 <ken@...> wrote:



I have begun to downsize some duplicate locos, Each model listed below is in excellent condition, test run, for sale at $350 plus shipping.

Broadway Limited AC-5s

  • Southern Pacific AC-5 #4120 flat face with Quantum Sound
  • Southern Pacific AC-5 FP unlettered flat face with Quantum Sound


MTH  AC-6s

  • Southern Pacific Lines AC-6 #4126  original flat face cab with Proto Sound 3
  • Southern Pacific Lines AC-6 #4144  modern bow face cab with Proto Sound 3


Buy a second loco get a 10% discount.  USPS Shipping at actual cost. 

Paypal accepted for a 3% fee

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

For sale - Espee Flat Face cab forwards HO scale

SP4149
 

I have begun to downsize some duplicate locos, Each model listed below is in excellent condition, test run, for sale at $350 plus shipping.

Broadway Limited AC-5s

  • Southern Pacific AC-5 #4120 flat face with Quantum Sound
  • Southern Pacific AC-5 FP unlettered flat face with Quantum Sound


MTH  AC-6s

  • Southern Pacific Lines AC-6 #4126  original flat face cab with Proto Sound 3
  • Southern Pacific Lines AC-6 #4144  modern bow face cab with Proto Sound 3


Buy a second loco get a 10% discount.  USPS Shipping at actual cost. 

Paypal accepted for a 3% fee

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

Broadway Limited 1st vs 2nd run HO NYC J1e Hudsons

Loco loco
 

Are there any differences between first and second run (2005) BLI NYC J1e Hudson steam locomotives beside price? Thank you.  And how in your opinion do both of those compare to Paragon2 and P3 versions of the engine that followed? Dave
--
Certifiably HO Loco loco

Re: [GilbertHOtrains] A well deserved thanks to Bob.

al45390
 

Thank you Ken & Bob. Thank you very sincerely. 

Walter


On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:31 PM SP4149 <ken@...> wrote:

Back in the summer of 2017 Bob Chapparo alerted many of us to both the upcoming end of Yahoo Groups as we knew it then and the new alternative, groups.io created by Mark Fletcher;

one of the early designers of these lists.  As the death cackles of Yahoo Groups fade into history, we can in gratitude reflect on how much time trouble and effort Bob saved so many of us.

At the time I was owner of a small group, HO Steam and moderator  of a larger group, Repower and Regear.  Researching what Bob  had provided us: the reasons for the failing support of

the lists on Yahoo Groups and a viable alternative, groups.io provided a path forward.  To placehold the names of the two lists I managed, I created lists in groups.io with the same names.


However, like many lists in YG, Repower and Regear, had an absentee, inattentive owner,  AS moderator I was not able to transfef the list.  It wasn't until several months later that I found the list owner

who had become dis-satisfied with YG.  He made me a co-owner and In Jan 2018 I polled the list members about my plans to move the list.  Most were supportive having grown frustrated by

YG's poor support of the lists.  A few were loyalist YG users and accused me of trying to steal the list, even though I had been moderator for seventeen years.  I was to hear similar accusations

from YG list owners and subscribers to this very day.


  But Bob had set a fine example and I perservered and the move of RepowerAndRegear was and continues to be a success.  I was vilified by a small group who believed in YG's future,

some quit my lists, some banned me from their lists, and through it all Bob continued his positive support of those moving from YG to groups.io.  For me he was the trail blazer.  The succcess of the RnR

move was quickly noted and my assistance was requested to help with moving other lists.  I helped all who asked.  In some cases my offers of assistance created brief flame wars between sparring

owners/moderators; many of those lists delayed conversion until after the free group transfer had ended.  By the end I had moved over 20 lists, some Railroad themed, some not. 

All the moves were successful and the lists retained their Basic (Free) status.  All this time Bob was continuing to provide support to those of us trying to avoid the impending YG collapse.


  Those of us who moved lists from YG to GIO have received ample thanks from list subscribers while also receiving slings and arrows from the unwilling to adapt.  We have been adequately

acknowledged within our lists.  However without Bob to shine a light forward, the path would have been far more difficult.


From one, for many, THANKS Bob

A well deserved thanks to Bob.

SP4149
 

Back in the summer of 2017 Bob Chapparo alerted many of us to both the upcoming end of Yahoo Groups as we knew it then and the new alternative, groups.io created by Mark Fletcher;

one of the early designers of these lists.  As the death cackles of Yahoo Groups fade into history, we can in gratitude reflect on how much time trouble and effort Bob saved so many of us.

At the time I was owner of a small group, HO Steam and moderator  of a larger group, Repower and Regear.  Researching what Bob  had provided us: the reasons for the failing support of

the lists on Yahoo Groups and a viable alternative, groups.io provided a path forward.  To placehold the names of the two lists I managed, I created lists in groups.io with the same names.


However, like many lists in YG, Repower and Regear, had an absentee, inattentive owner,  AS moderator I was not able to transfef the list.  It wasn't until several months later that I found the list owner

who had become dis-satisfied with YG.  He made me a co-owner and In Jan 2018 I polled the list members about my plans to move the list.  Most were supportive having grown frustrated by

YG's poor support of the lists.  A few were loyalist YG users and accused me of trying to steal the list, even though I had been moderator for seventeen years.  I was to hear similar accusations

from YG list owners and subscribers to this very day.


  But Bob had set a fine example and I perservered and the move of RepowerAndRegear was and continues to be a success.  I was vilified by a small group who believed in YG's future,

some quit my lists, some banned me from their lists, and through it all Bob continued his positive support of those moving from YG to groups.io.  For me he was the trail blazer.  The succcess of the RnR

move was quickly noted and my assistance was requested to help with moving other lists.  I helped all who asked.  In some cases my offers of assistance created brief flame wars between sparring

owners/moderators; many of those lists delayed conversion until after the free group transfer had ended.  By the end I had moved over 20 lists, some Railroad themed, some not. 

All the moves were successful and the lists retained their Basic (Free) status.  All this time Bob was continuing to provide support to those of us trying to avoid the impending YG collapse.


  Those of us who moved lists from YG to GIO have received ample thanks from list subscribers while also receiving slings and arrows from the unwilling to adapt.  We have been adequately

acknowledged within our lists.  However without Bob to shine a light forward, the path would have been far more difficult.


From one, for many, THANKS Bob


ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

For Sale - Southern Pacific HO Scale Power For the Grade, Steam and Diesel

SP4149
 

SD40T-2 Tunnel Motors -  Each model listed below is in excellent condition, test run, for sale at $165 plus shipping.

Rivet Counter Scale Trains

  • Southern Pacific SD40T-2  DCC Ready 8307 SXT31057 Scarlet & Gray  AS Delivered
  • Southern Pacific SD40T-2  DCC Ready 8320 SXT31059 Scarlet & Gray  AS Delivered
  • Southern Pacific SD40T-2  DCC Ready 8558 SXT31067 Scarlet & Gray  '1980s Era'


 

Flat Face Cab Forwards - Each model listed below is in excellent condition, test run, for sale at $350 plus shipping.

Broadway Limited AC-5s

  • Southern Pacific AC-5 #4120 flat face with Quantum Sound
  • Southern Pacific AC-5 FP unlettered flat face with Quantum Sound


MTH  AC-6s

  • Southern Pacific Lines AC-6 #4126  original flat face cab with Proto Sound 3
  • Southern Pacific Lines AC-6 #4144  modern bow face cab with Proto Sound 3


Buy a second loco get a 10% discount on lower priced loco.  USPS Shipping at actual cost. 

Paypal accepted for a 3% fee

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com

 

--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

Re: TEST!!

Ken Clark
 

Bob,
  The lists have  been hibernating during the YG shutdown it seems.
After New Years I think we will see a resurgence

ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Macklin <macklinbob@q.com>
To: HO-Steam <HO-Steam@groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Dec 23, 2019 12:28 pm
Subject: [HO-Steam] TEST!!

I'm not receiving anything???

Bob Macklin
Seattle, Wa

TEST!!

Bob Macklin
 

I'm not receiving anything???

Bob Macklin
Seattle, Wa

For Sale - SP Flat Face Cab Fowards

SP4149
 

I have begun to downsize some duplicate locos, Each model listed below is in excellent condition, test run, for sale at $350 plus shipping.

Broadway Limited AC-5s

  • Southern Pacific AC-5 #4120 flat face with Quantum Sound
  • Southern Pacific AC-5 FP unlettered flat face with Quantum Sound


MTH  AC-6s

  • Southern Pacific Lines AC-6 #4126  original flat face cab with Proto Sound 3
  • Southern Pacific Lines AC-6 #4144  modern bow face cab with Proto Sound 3


Buy a second loco get a 10% discount.  USPS Shipping at actual cost. 

Paypal accepted for a 3% fee

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



--
ken clark
HO and Sn42

Re: My Camelback HO Locomotives.

SP4149
 

Ed,

  On my other list, RepowerAndRegear, we have been using four magnet, six pole 12 pole square motors to solve many repowering problems.  The square profile

allows them to fit in many places where a less powerful can motor will not.  For most medium size HO locos, the 18mm square motor is more powerful than a Sagami 2032

can motor but runs about 30% slower.  The 15mm square motors are not only more than twice as powerful as a Sagami 1630, but run 50% slower. 

In many cases superior low speed performance can be achieved without replacing the OEM gearing.  This last summer I replaced the old 12 volt universal motor in my 

AC Gilbert Hudson with an 18mm square motor.  Even though the new motor is slower, the extra power easily drove the loco and chuff mechanism, smoother operation, lower

current draw and quieter.  It was obvious that the OEM motor was running slow because it was overloaded.  Repowering these old models, which some of us got for Christmas,

is rewarding.

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



On 2019-12-02 07:38, Ed via Groups.Io wrote:

Frank --

I love your photo collection of Camelbacks! Thanks for posting.

I grew up in Dunellen, NJ, location of the CNJ engine terminal and coach yard 26 miles from Jersey City. Mom would take my brother and I to the station in the evenings to pick up my dad who was a union electrician working mostly in New York City, and therein the origin of my love for the CNJ and those wonderful hulking, steaming, hissing Camelback 4-6-0s that brought dad home to the family!

As a little kid, I went for my lungs with my allowance savings and purchased one of the Aristo 4-6-0s back in the early 60's. In college and afterwards as a business heavy traveler, I never had the time or space for model railroading but now in retirement I want to bring back Dunellen and its Camelbacks, so I've acquired via eBay a collection of mostly broken Aristo 4-6-0s and am seeking to restore two or three to running condition.

My question for you is whether and how you might have re-powered yours. As you know, the original Aristo motors were open frame, mounted vertically. Their "height" above the diecast frame surface was just 27 mm  - a tad over 1 inch. So while I originally thought I'd replace the motor with a re-positioned can driving the lead drive axle rather than the original driven axle #3, upon evaluating that change, it would require machining a new opening for a gearbox. It would also require altering how the boiler would be attached to the chassis, since a new motor shaft/gearbox would be in the way of the original mounting screw and receptacle inside the boiler. Moving that boiler mounting screw location aft might not be possible because it might interfere with axle #2.

So, all things considered, I thought it would be easier and more practical to replace the original motor with a can motor mounted vertically with the worm directly engaging the original geared axle. That said, given the concave interior shape of the firebox area, there really isn't 27 mm of vertical space above the frame surface. I might get away with a 25 mm motor (with plastic end cap removed) but that seems pretty small in terms of power & torque.

Being very familiar with this particular model, I wonder if you had any thoughts or experience on re-motoring it. In any case, thanks for the great pictures!

Best,
Ed


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ken clark
HO and Sn42

Re: My Camelback HO Locomotives.

Ed
 

Frank --

I love your photo collection of Camelbacks! Thanks for posting.

I grew up in Dunellen, NJ, location of the CNJ engine terminal and coach yard 26 miles from Jersey City. Mom would take my brother and I to the station in the evenings to pick up my dad who was a union electrician working mostly in New York City, and therein the origin of my love for the CNJ and those wonderful hulking, steaming, hissing Camelback 4-6-0s that brought dad home to the family!

As a little kid, I went for my lungs with my allowance savings and purchased one of the Aristo 4-6-0s back in the early 60's. In college and afterwards as a business heavy traveler, I never had the time or space for model railroading but now in retirement I want to bring back Dunellen and its Camelbacks, so I've acquired via eBay a collection of mostly broken Aristo 4-6-0s and am seeking to restore two or three to running condition.

My question for you is whether and how you might have re-powered yours. As you know, the original Aristo motors were open frame, mounted vertically. Their "height" above the diecast frame surface was just 27 mm  - a tad over 1 inch. So while I originally thought I'd replace the motor with a re-positioned can driving the lead drive axle rather than the original driven axle #3, upon evaluating that change, it would require machining a new opening for a gearbox. It would also require altering how the boiler would be attached to the chassis, since a new motor shaft/gearbox would be in the way of the original mounting screw and receptacle inside the boiler. Moving that boiler mounting screw location aft might not be possible because it might interfere with axle #2.

So, all things considered, I thought it would be easier and more practical to replace the original motor with a can motor mounted vertically with the worm directly engaging the original geared axle. That said, given the concave interior shape of the firebox area, there really isn't 27 mm of vertical space above the frame surface. I might get away with a 25 mm motor (with plastic end cap removed) but that seems pretty small in terms of power & torque.

Being very familiar with this particular model, I wonder if you had any thoughts or experience on re-motoring it. In any case, thanks for the great pictures!

Best,
Ed

Re: Silvine 0-4-0t New One Japan locomotive

toptrain2100
 

Another spare loco Silvine 0-4-0 saddle tanker I had was remade into a Reading locomotive

Re: Silvine 0-4-0t New One Japan locomotive

toptrain2100
 

   Over the years with this Silvine 0-4-0t showing up a lot at train shown I was able to get a few more at low prices. They are excellent running locs and being made of all metal they do pull well for a 0-4-0 type. I took two of the ones i have and repainted them for the C.R.R.of N.J. as their #14 Hornet and #15 Wasp. The real locos were also saddle tankers of a earlier style. Here are my Hornet and Wasp.
frank

Re: Mini-Lathe For Work on Brass/Diecast Loco Frames and Parts

prgm_mgr
 

For what it's worth I used a milling bit in my drill press without any problems. Just go slow and don't try to hog off too much material at a time. 

The lathe picture seems to have the grinding part on the end, maybe for grinding lathe tool bits. Doesn't seem designed for milli work.

Mark

Re: Mini-Lathe For Work on Brass/Diecast Loco Frames and Parts

Victor Bitleris
 

It looks like it is plastic and it calls itself a wood turning lathe.  Yes, it says metal grinding, which probably means you can put a grinding wheel or grinding tool (like Dremel) and grind metal to sharpen chisels and drill bits.  But I doubt it would hold up much for metal milling.  You would be better off with a Harbor Freight table top drill press for milling.  Yes, drill presses aren't made for milling, but should be fine for the kind of work we do.
Just my 2 cents.  I also have a Taig and the milling attachment, but that doesn't mean it is an easy job, you still have to use the file to finish it off.

Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC


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Subject: [HO-Steam] Mini-Lathe For Work on Brass/Diecast Loco Frames and Parts
 
Hi All --

In order to re-power a couple of old diecast locomotives, I need to change the geared axle from the rearmost to the front or maybe middle driver axle.

That would involve opening up a slot for a gearbox in a new position as seen in the image below. So, my question is... does anyone think this hobbyist  multi tool would be able to do the job cleanly and accurately enough?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/6-in-1-Mini-Wood-Lathe-for-Metal-Grinding-Woodworking-Hobby-DIY-Tool-AC-100-240V-/352111927072

I don't suppose

Many thanks for your thoughts.
Ed