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Re: Drivers

Patrick Egan
 

It would be nice if the letter from John Allen were readable.
Pat Egan

Re: Drivers

Doug Harris
 

On 20/10/2018 18:42, Patrick Egan wrote:
It would be nice if the letter from John Allen were readable.
Pat Egan
Try this - it's the best I can get out of it in Photoshop..

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Doug Harris
Cambridge, New Zealand

Re: 4-8-8-4 Drivers or for that matter a 4-10-2 ....

Mark Cartwright
 

Maybe a direct link from the G&D Site, would have been better.
http://gdlines.info/NMRA-19650400-015-300_40.jpg
I am still learning.
Mark

Re: 4-8-8-4 Drivers or for that matter a 4-10-2 ....

Mark Cartwright
 

BTW....
The 8x16 HO Scale Layout as seen in the picture above has at best 36 inch radius curves.
Yet, I bought with it on the very same day, an HO Scale Brass Cab Forward, manufactured around 1965, the same time as John Allen't Open Letter.
Done the Math yet?
I do not yet know what it will take or need into a curve but I suspect at least a 44 inch radius and perhaps as wide as 56 inches; with an actual train behind it.
Meaning...The above layout began to fall apart as I moved it...No matter, I was to rebuild it anyway with much wider curves.
To me...
The whole purpose of a layout is to run Cab Forwards.
For I saw one once in 1955, though the widow of my Parents Black and Pink Buick; with Port Holes on the side....> I hit the automatic transmission lever on the column as I crawled up to press my face against the window...Oops! My father never could get it to run right after that, and we soon traded it in on a 1957 Chevy with Tail Fins !

Re: 4-8-8-4 Drivers or for that matter a 4-10-2 ....

SP4149
 

Mark,

Most Japanese made HO scale cab forwards will traverse 36" radius curves.  The one notable exception was the WSM AC-4/5 imports

which had the trailing gearbox on the 6th axle instead of the 5th axle as other WSM/KTM imports of the time.  Even then it is possible to

modify the engine to get it around 32-36" radius curves.  Of course the older Akane and most of the plastic cab forward models could go around

much  sharper curves.  

ken clark

www.shastasprings.com



On 2018-10-21 07:38, Mark Cartwright via Groups.Io wrote:

BTW....
The 8x16 HO Scale Layout as seen in the picture above has at best 36 inch radius curves.
Yet, I bought with it on the very same day, an HO Scale Brass Cab Forward, manufactured around 1965, the same time as John Allen't Open Letter.
Done the Math yet?
I do not yet know what it will take or need into a curve but I suspect at least a 44 inch radius and perhaps as wide as 56 inches; with an actual train behind it.
Meaning...The above layout began to fall apart as I moved it...No matter, I was to rebuild it anyway with much wider curves.
To me...
The whole purpose of a layout is to run Cab Forwards.
For I saw one once in 1955, though the widow of my Parents Black and Pink Buick; with Port Holes on the side....> I hit the automatic transmission lever on the column as I crawled up to press my face against the window...Oops! My father never could get it to run right after that, and we soon traded it in on a 1957 Chevy with Tail Fins !


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ken clark
HO and Sn42

For Sale

roblmclear
 

Hello

I have two Genesis Steam Loco's for sale, Union Pacific FEF3 4-8-4 Black and Graphite scheme which has had the oversized side rod screws replaced with some from an Athearn Challenger and gives it a more prototypical look $350 Australian also have a Genesis Challenger Union Pacific, also in the Black and Graphite scheme $400 Australian.   Both have DCC and sound and both run well.

Rob McLear
Australia.

PFE Reefers for sale.

roblmclear
 

I have six Intermountain PFE reefers in the coloured double herald scheme, they are new and apart from one being photographed have never been out of the boxes.   I am asking $40 Aus ea for them or $220 Aus for all six.   Postage will be actual cost and no handling fee.    These are brand new and in excellent condition refer to the pictures for the numbers.   Would prefer not to split them up and sell as a lot, if not sold in a few days will be posted on eBay.

Rob McLear
Australia.

Aristo-Craft Ho steam Locomotives ( the diecast white metal ones.)

toptrain2100
 
Edited

Aristo-Craft sold a line of HO steam locomotives that were made in Japan by The New One Model Toy company. This was a importing, distribution, and sales company for these made in Japan HO steam locomotives. Information on this line of trains and just about all other is "Hoseeker". Which can easily be searched and viewed on line. They had 2 Aristo-Craft catalogs to view online. A 1958 catalog which covered their then line of HO locomotives all of which were either early brass locos from Japan of the Rivarossi line of steam locomotives with plastic bodies. Hoseeker also has the Aristo-Craft 1962 catalog on view which covers this line of die Cast white metal locomotives that I speak of here. Now I have the 1963 catalog which they, Hoseeker does not have. It shows the same line of trains as does the 1962 catalog but displayed in this catalog differently. I don't have a complete set of Model railroader magazines, but do have 2 important issues they being November 1961 page 13, and December 1961 page 23. The November ad show the complete line of locomotive types but not all road names the locos were available in. The December add only shows 9 locomotives. 12 different locomotives make up this line. A CB&Q 0-4-0 switcher with a small slope back tender is the littlest. Next would be the 0-6-0t saddle tank locomotive. Ths loco was made in different road names. The 2 I have are PRR and B&O. The next is a rare bird of a locomotive, The Philadelphia and Reading 4-2-2 "Bicycle" locomotive. The next another rare type is the 2-4-2 Columbia. It is letterend for the Baldwin Locomotive Company as it was the first of its type made and lettered this way for display at the current World's Fair, the 1893 Columbian Exposition that gave its name to this type wheel arrangement. Next is the Rogers 2-6-0, another old timer which with always the identical locomotive only the road name on the tender was different. I know of  5 different road names.  The Philadelphia and Reading, the Chicago and Rock Island, Camden and Amboy, UP and CP. The next would be a 0-8-0 type made for the Ashland Coal and Iron Company. after this one is a 2-8-0 type of the New York, New Haven, and Hartford RR. After this one is the last with a 2 wheel lead truck the Mikado 2-8-2 The Frisco in four road numbers i know of 4005, 4013, 4028, 4105. Other locos with 4 wheel lead trucks are the Atlantic 4-4-2 type in B&O maybe other road names for this locomotive was also sold by the HO train Co. Then a 4-6-0 ten wheeler the Royal Blue of the B&O. A second different 4-6-0 with a larger boiler also in B&O and ICRR. Last is the Mountain type 4-8-2. I have it in New Haven RR and seen it in C&O. These locomotives were sold from 1961 to 1967 and still available after that till the supply on hand ran out.

Re: Aristo-Craft Ho steam Locomotives ( the diecast white metal ones.)

toptrain2100
 
Edited

My List of Aristo-Craft locomotives, My collection.


0-4-0 switcher CB&Q #335 boxed

0-4-0 switcher CB&Q #335

0-4-0 switcher X-CB&Q Atlas #7

0-6-0t saddle tank, PRR #794 Uncle Tom

0-6-0t saddle tank, B&O # 94 Uncle Tom

0-8-0 Ashland Coal & Iron Co. with original tender.

0-8-0 repainted with original tender and replacement tender.

0-8-0 repainted with original tender and replacement tender.

0-8-0 repainted with replacement tender. 

4-2-2 P&R Bicycle #507.

4-2-2 P&R Bicycle #80

2-6-0 P&R Thomas Rogers boxed

2-6-0 P&R Thomas Rogers.

2-6-0 C&EI Thomas Rogers boxed.

2-6-0 Union Pacific Thomas Rogers boxed.

2-8-0 New York, New Haven & Hartford #278 boxed.

2-8-0 New York, New Haven & Hartford #278.

2-8-2 Frisco #4005, boxed.

2-8-2 Frisco #4013, boxed.

2-8-2 ANNA repainted.

2-8-2 ANNA repainted.

4-4-2 No #128 B&O, and NH tenders.

4-6-0 B&O Royal Blue #1306, boxed.

4-6-0 B&O Royal Blue #1306.

4-6-0 #157, no road name on correct tender.

4-8-2 NH no #.

Re: Aristo-Craft Ho steam Locomotives ( the diecast white metal ones.)

Larry Blanchard
 

On 5/21/19 3:06 PM, toptrain2100 via Groups.Io wrote:

Aristo-Craft sold a line of HO steam locomotives that were made in Japan...
5 times!

And also wrote this:

My List of Aristo-Craft locomotives, My collection.
5 times again!

Either your computer, your ISP, or you have a bad case of repeating things :-).

Re: Aristo-Craft Ho steam Locomotives ( the diecast white metal ones.)

Walter Davis
 

I used to work at The Hobby Shop in Cameron Village, Raleigh NC in the 1960's and we sold these locomotives.  They were quite beautiful, but they seldom ran, or ran very poorly.  They were cheap back then $20.00 to $30.00 and most bought them for shelf locos.  I wish I had bought some back in the 60's.  Like I said, they were beautiful little engines.

On 5/21/2019 9:04 AM, toptrain2100 via Groups.Io wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Aristo-Craft sold a line of HO steam locomotives that were made in Japan by The New One Model Toy company. This was a importing, distribution, and sales company for these made in Japan HO steam locomotives. Information on this line of trains and just about all other is "Hoseeker". Which can easily be searched and viewed on line. They had 2 Aristo-Craft catalogs to view online. A 1958 catalog which covered their then line of HO locomotives all of which were either early brass locos from Japan of the Rivarossi line of steam locomotives with plastic bodies. Hoseeker also has the Aristo-Craft 1962 catalog on view which covers this line of die Cast white metal locomotives that I speak of here. Now I have the 1963 catalog which they, Hoseeker does not have. It shows the same line of trains as does the 1962 catalog but displayed in this catalog differently. I don't have a complete set of Model railroader magazines, but do have 2 important issues they being November 1961 page 13, and December 1961 page 23. The November ad show the complete line of locomotive types but not all road names the locos were available in. The December add only shows 9 locomotives. 12 different locomotives make up this line. A CB&Q 0-4-0 switcher with a small slope back tender is the littlest. Next would be the 0-6-0t saddle tank locomotive. Ths loco was made in different road names. The 2 I have are PRR and B&O. The next is a rare bird of a locomotive, The Philadelphia and Reading 4-2-2 "Bicycle" locomotive. The next another rare type is the 2-4-2 Columbia. It is letterend for the Baldwin Locomotive Company as it was the first of its type made and lettered this way for display at the current World's Fair, the 1893 Columbian Exposition that gave its name to this type wheel arrangement. Next is the Rogers 2-6-0, another old timer which with always the identical locomotive only the road name on the tender was different. I know of  5 different road names.  The Philadelphia and Reading, the Chicago and Rock Island, Camden and Amboy, UP and CP. The next would be a 0-8-0 type made for the Ashland Coal and Iron Company. after this one is a 2-8-0 type of the New York, New Haven, and Hartford RR. After this one is the last with a 2 wheel lead truck the Mikado 2-8-2 The Frisco in four road numbers i know of 4005, 4013, 4028, 4105. Other locos with 4 wheel lead trucks are the Atlantic 4-4-2 type in B&O maybe other road names for this locomotive was also sold by the HO train Co. Then a 4-6-0 ten wheeler the Royal Blue of the B&O. A second different 4-6-0 with a larger boiler also in B&) and ICRR. Last is the Mountain type 4-8-2. I have it in New Haven RR and seen it in C&O. These locomotives were sold from 1961 to 1967 and still available after that till the supply on hand ran out.

Re: Aristo-Craft Ho steam Locomotives ( the diecast white metal ones.)

Wayne Long
 


On 5/21/2019 4:57 PM, Walter Davis wrote:

I used to work at The Hobby Shop in Cameron Village, Raleigh NC in the 1960's and we sold these locomotives.  They were quite beautiful, but they seldom ran, or ran very poorly.  They were cheap back then $20.00 to $30.00 and most bought them for shelf locos.  I wish I had bought some back in the 60's.  Like I said, they were beautiful little engines.

Interesting account.

Back in 1964, I bought an Aristo 4-8-2 from a hobby shop in Greenville, SC.  Some one ordered it and never came by to pick it up.  I think I paid $25.00 for it.

My Aristo actually ran on my small layout.  When I moved and built a larger layout, this 4-8-2 could pull all the cars I had at the time up a 2.5% grade and not slip. Its cast metal boiler was heavy over the drivers.  Its appearance was never satisfactory, though.  I still have the loco but I don't run it.  It has been replaced by an IHC 4-8-2 that I custom detailed.  This IHC loco can pull almost as well as the Aristo Loco.

Wayne Long

On 5/21/2019 9:04 AM, toptrain2100 via Groups.Io wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Aristo-Craft sold a line of HO steam locomotives that were made in Japan by The New One Model Toy company. This was a importing, distribution, and sales company for these made in Japan HO steam locomotives. Information on this line of trains and just about all other is "Hoseeker". Which can easily be searched and viewed on line. They had 2 Aristo-Craft catalogs to view online. A 1958 catalog which covered their then line of HO locomotives all of which were either early brass locos from Japan of the Rivarossi line of steam locomotives with plastic bodies. Hoseeker also has the Aristo-Craft 1962 catalog on view which covers this line of die Cast white metal locomotives that I speak of here. Now I have the 1963 catalog which they, Hoseeker does not have. It shows the same line of trains as does the 1962 catalog but displayed in this catalog differently. I don't have a complete set of Model railroader magazines, but do have 2 important issues they being November 1961 page 13, and December 1961 page 23. The November ad show the complete line of locomotive types but not all road names the locos were available in. The December add only shows 9 locomotives. 12 different locomotives make up this line. A CB&Q 0-4-0 switcher with a small slope back tender is the littlest. Next would be the 0-6-0t saddle tank locomotive. Ths loco was made in different road names. The 2 I have are PRR and B&O. The next is a rare bird of a locomotive, The Philadelphia and Reading 4-2-2 "Bicycle" locomotive. The next another rare type is the 2-4-2 Columbia. It is letterend for the Baldwin Locomotive Company as it was the first of its type made and lettered this way for display at the current World's Fair, the 1893 Columbian Exposition that gave its name to this type wheel arrangement. Next is the Rogers 2-6-0, another old timer which with always the identical locomotive only the road name on the tender was different. I know of  5 different road names.  The Philadelphia and Reading, the Chicago and Rock Island, Camden and Amboy, UP and CP. The next would be a 0-8-0 type made for the Ashland Coal and Iron Company. after this one is a 2-8-0 type of the New York, New Haven, and Hartford RR. After this one is the last with a 2 wheel lead truck the Mikado 2-8-2 The Frisco in four road numbers i know of 4005, 4013, 4028, 4105. Other locos with 4 wheel lead trucks are the Atlantic 4-4-2 type in B&O maybe other road names for this locomotive was also sold by the HO train Co. Then a 4-6-0 ten wheeler the Royal Blue of the B&O. A second different 4-6-0 with a larger boiler also in B&) and ICRR. Last is the Mountain type 4-8-2. I have it in New Haven RR and seen it in C&O. These locomotives were sold from 1961 to 1967 and still available after that till the supply on hand ran out.

Re: Aristo-Craft Ho steam Locomotives ( the diecast white metal ones.)

Jon Miller
 

On 5/21/2019 7:53 PM, Wayne Long wrote:
Its cast metal boiler was heavy over the drivers.

    Speaking of old engines I still have my first engine.  Bought it when I was 15 (1957) and it was fully assembled and ran like a charm.  A super Varney 2-8-2 with the 7 pole motor.  It pulled well as the boiler was cast brass.  I still remember the price ($28) and I worked and saved some time to get it.

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Re: Aristo-Craft Ho steam Locomotives ( the diecast white metal ones.)

toptrain2100
 
Edited

Larry Thanks for counting my edits and telling me about them. It was very interesting. Walter and Wayne, you two have a lot in common and great memory. Joe I remember Varney also and 15 years ago found a economy Hudson boiler which I added a Mantua pacific drive and brought back to life again as a streamlined PRR K4. Thanks again everybody for the replies.

Silvine 0-4-0t New One Japan locomotive

toptrain2100
 

 Silvine a supplier of HO scale track and other layout supplies also released one HO locomotive. A die cast white metal 0-4-0t side tanker they called the "Teakettle". The box it came in and the paperwork that came with it clearly was marked as a Silvine product. It is also marked as a product of the New One toy Company of Japan just like the previous Aristo_Craft line of diecast locomotives. 

My Camelback HO Locomotives.

toptrain2100
 

The first would be the Cast and Brass Mantua one of the late 1940's to early 1950's

Re: My Camelback HO Locomotives.

toptrain2100
 

The next is a all brass 0-4-0 camelback made with early construction methods.  Most likely a International Model product release IMP
.

Re: My Camelback HO Locomotives.

toptrain2100
 

Now another 0-4-0 camelback. This one is also by Mantua but of Plastic and Cast construction. Very much like those made recently.

Re: My Camelback HO Locomotives.

toptrain2100
 
Edited

This one will finish the small types used on tight radius turns. The Mantua 0-6-0 camelback.

Re: My Camelback HO Locomotives.

toptrain2100
 

Next is a scratch built 4-4-0 camelback. The body is scratch-built but the drive is a altered Rivarossi one. The tender is converted to coal from oil. It is a model of a Lehigh Valley 4-4-0 that was built at their South Easton shops. It is loco #5 named the "David Laury" It was one of the original locomotives used to pull the opening day run of the Black Diamond.