Nelson and Elden,

Yup, works great. The FAQ is now at ONElist. I added links to a few notable
manufacturers.

Regards,
Thomas

Kemtron, a long time ago, offered a valve gear for the MDC 0-6-0,
The Kemtron line now is under the Precision Scale Co. and after
checking the 98 Walthers catalog, I found the kit.
#585-31528 Walschaerts, for MDC 0-6-0 $12.75
and
#585-31193 Modern Block (cylinders) w/ guides, for MDC 0-6-0 (5 pieces)
$12.25

Whether they are still in production or available, it is another question.

Cheers
Leo

From: "Stefan" <stefan@seaside.net>

<snip>

off(?)The 0-6-0 doesn't have the right valve gear but I think there is
still an upgrade available(?)
Best regards

Stefan Lerche'

Thomas Beutel wrote:

http://www.io.com/~fano2472/HOsteam/faq.html

Please send me any additions/corrections. Also, does Onelist provide space
for this sort of info?

There is the shared files area, Thomas. I don't see why it should work
for html files. Have a go. You access it from the Member centre Button
and then clicking on the HOsteam list name.



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Tramway Preservation and NZR 0 gauge trains and a little H0 Espee are
at:
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Thomas Beutel wrote:

Please send me any additions/corrections....

The Bowser 2-10-2 is a USRA heavy. IIRC the heavy had 63" drivers, the
model is listed with 62" drivers, and the USRA light had 57".

Bowser is ambiguous about whether the USRA 4-8-2 is heavy or light since
they both used 69" drivers. Does anyone know what it really is?

Jack

There was a good article on kitbashing a MDC into a more accurate SP 2-8-0
C-3 in the April 1978 issue of MR.
Best regards

Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, B.C. Canada

--- Thomas Beutel <Thomas.Beutel@efi.com> wrote:

From: Thomas Beutel <Thomas.Beutel@efi.com>

... Also, does

Onelist provide space
for this sort of info?

Yes. Goto www.onelist.com login and follow the links to HOsteam ->
Shared Files. Here you can place files for all to see. If you post a
note to the list when you've loaded new data, we can visit the shared
files and see "what's new."

Talk to you later.
Elden

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Hi,

I built the 4-6-0 and it's one of my best running locos (including some
of the brass). Also, with very few modifications (I'd have to pull out
my build-notes to remember exactly what I did) its a dead ringer for
2346 T-28.

I agree with what Thomas said, check and re-check fit at every step.
Its much easier to "fix" things as you. If there is the slightest
imperfection during construction it will only get worst (not better)
when you start running it. One thing I do remember is that I had to
"clean out" the screw threads before the small machince screws would go
in as intended. Be careful as these small screws are VERY easy to
cross-thread or strip.

Have fun.
Elden

--- Thomas Beutel <Thomas.Beutel@efi.com> wrote:

From: Thomas Beutel <Thomas.Beutel@efi.com>

Hi Ashley,

From what I know, they are as follows:

0-6-0 S-8
4-6-0 T-28
2-8-0 C-3

The 2-8-0 has drivers that are way too large (62"
vs. 57"), but otherwise
they are good representations. I've built the 0-6-0
and 4-6-0 before MDC
made their latest round of improvements, and they
run fine. Now with can
motors and nickel-plated wheels, I understand that
they run even better.

As always, care in construction goes a long way to
making a well running
loco. The advice that I here from many kit builders
is to test the
free-rolling-ness of the drivers at every step
(before the motor is in).
They should roll absolutely without a hitch when
given a slight nudge on a
plate glass surface. Any hitches should be uncovered
and dealt with before
completing the model.

Good luck and have fun!

Regards,
Thomas Beutel
San Francisco


-----Original Message-----
From: Ashley Rachel Pollard
[mailto:Ashley@apnix.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 11:37 AM
To: HOsteam@onelist.com
Subject: [HOsteam] Roundhouse MDC Models


From: "Ashley Rachel Pollard"
<Ashley@apnix.demon.co.uk>

Does anybody know how accurate the SP steam engines
are that MDC sell?

In particular:

0-6-0
4-6-0
2-8-0

The Walthers catalogue indicate they come lettered
for the Espee, with vandy
tenders on the latter two.

Also, how easy are they to put together to run well?
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At 07:37 PM 5/7/99 +0100, you wrote:

From: "Ashley Rachel Pollard" <Ashley@apnix.demon.co.uk>

Does anybody know how accurate the SP steam engines are that MDC sell?

In particular:

0-6-0
4-6-0
2-8-0

Ashley,
All are representations of SP types but are not accurate in many repsects.
The new 2-8-0 models with the can motor run well and overall these kits
though crude in many respects to detail are a good buy. I'm not sure if the
ten Wheeler and the 0-6-0 have the can motor also...check MDCs web page.
The 2-8-0 is based on the earlier Harriman types but have 63" diameter
drivers which are too big. The ten Wheeler is the same boiler as the 2-8-0
and is ok but I believe the drivers are too big again and wheelbase is
off(?)The 0-6-0 doesn't have the right valve gear but I think there is
still an upgrade available(?)
Best regards

Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, B.C. Canada

David Coscia's page mention only the 0-6-0 and 2-8-0.

http://home.earthlink.net/~coscia/sp_models_ho.html

Cheers
Leo

From: "Ashley Rachel Pollard" <Ashley@apnix.demon.co.uk>

Does anybody know how accurate the SP steam engines are that MDC sell?

In particular:

0-6-0
4-6-0
2-8-0

The Walthers catalogue indicate they come lettered for the Espee, with

vandy

tenders on the latter two.

Also, how easy are they to put together to run well?
--
Ashley Rachel Pollard

Hi Ashley,

From what I know, they are as follows:

0-6-0 S-8
4-6-0 T-28
2-8-0 C-3

The 2-8-0 has drivers that are way too large (62" vs. 57"), but otherwise
they are good representations. I've built the 0-6-0 and 4-6-0 before MDC
made their latest round of improvements, and they run fine. Now with can
motors and nickel-plated wheels, I understand that they run even better.

As always, care in construction goes a long way to making a well running
loco. The advice that I here from many kit builders is to test the
free-rolling-ness of the drivers at every step (before the motor is in).
They should roll absolutely without a hitch when given a slight nudge on a
plate glass surface. Any hitches should be uncovered and dealt with before
completing the model.

Good luck and have fun!

Regards,
Thomas Beutel
San Francisco

Hi All,

I've been thinking of putting together a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
for this list and welcome any input on what it might contain.

My first thought was to put together a list of currently available locos.
Here is the URL to my first attempt.

http://www.io.com/~fano2472/HOsteam/faq.html

Please send me any additions/corrections. Also, does Onelist provide space
for this sort of info?

Thanks!
Thomas Beutel
San Francisco

Hi All,

In the latest Model Railroader, Tony Koester made a statement about the
recent increase of good plastic steam loco models, and added that a
articulated loco might be in the works.

Does anyone have any further details on this rumor, i.e. who, what
prototype, when...

Thanks!
Thomas Beutel
San Francisco

Does anybody know how accurate the SP steam engines are that MDC sell?

In particular:

0-6-0
4-6-0
2-8-0

The Walthers catalogue indicate they come lettered for the Espee, with vandy
tenders on the latter two.

Also, how easy are they to put together to run well?
--
Ashley Rachel Pollard
Ashley@apnix.demon.co.uk

This post which I put on the Espee list might be of relevance to readers of
this list as well.

About a week ago I wrote about the flicking sideways, in and out by
about 0.5mm of one of the driving wheel sets on my new Rivarossi AC-12.
I took it to a friend's place tonight and we gave it a run on his yard.
By a quirk of fate I put the loco on the track the opposite way around
from when I last ran it. We ran it slowly and watched the affected
wheel set. It did not flick in and out. It flicked up and down!

So I turned the loco around and we looked at the same side as I did last
week - the wheel set flicked in and out, not up and down!

Much head scratching. Two pair of optivisors donned and another look.

A unison chorus of "Eureka" (or 'Bloody Hell', or something like
that). We saw at once that the wheels were in fact running true. It
was all being done with mirrors, so to speak.

The model I have is (my third preference, I would have to say) the model
in plain black with white lining and wheel rims. On just one set of
drivers the process for the white lining of the rims went askance and it
is eccentric on both wheels of the set. It is that eccentricity which
creates the illusion of movement in the wheel. By focussing on the
flange we were able to confirm that it does, in fact, run true as a
die and that explains why there was no hint of stutter or binding in the
running.

Ah well, that is good. It is due to be superdetailed and painted in a
transition period operational paint scheme some day so the white wheel
rims will disappear anyway - and all will be well.

Good to have found a reason.

Nelson Kennedy, Christchurch, New Zealand
Ferrymead Trams, 0 gauge NZR trains and a little Espee H0 are at:
http://DownUnder.Railfan.net

At 11:07 AM 5/5/99 -0700, you wrote:

From: Thomas Beutel <Thomas.Beutel@efi.com>

Hi All,

Did Bachmann ever make a Bachmann Plus version of the HO scale ATSF 4-8-4? I
understand that the mold was accidentally destroyed, b

I've got one in a Plus box.
Best regards

Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, B.C. Canada

Hi All,

Did Bachmann ever make a Bachmann Plus version of the HO scale ATSF 4-8-4? I
understand that the mold was accidentally destroyed, but I wonder if this
was before or after the Plus versions came out.

As an aside, it's too bad that the mold is gone. Given how costly it is to
make a mold these days, I doubt that we will we ever see the ATSF 4-8-4
again in plastic. That's too bad, because I think it was the only plastic
ATSF loco in production.

Thanks!
Thomas Beutel

METEOR910@aol.com wrote:

I just finally bought an undec Bachmann 2-8-0 last week. Will turn it
in to
a SLSF Consolidation - doing research now to see which of the 1200's
or
1300's would be the best match. Any ideas?

You're in luck. Many of us model roads whose consolidations only had
56/57" drivers. IIRC, the Bachmann's drivers measure out to be 61", but
with HO size flanges and driver spacing, they have more the appearance
of 63" drivers. SLSF consolidations nos. 1266-1345 had 63" drivers.
Without a diagram to compare measurements, I could see the Bachmann as
no. 1300 (BLW, 1910), pictured on page 16 of Collias's Frisco Power (a
must for SLSF steam fans). You would need to change some details such as
removing the sand dome and installing a smaller one closer to the front,
adding a second dual air compressor, and cutting down the length of the
tender. The valve gear of No. 1300 looks like a Walschaerts and I
believe the Bachmann is a Baker. However the hangers for the reversing
linkages are similar shaped in this case, so at first glance the
difference is not noticeable. I think it could be a convincing kitbash.

Have ordered an Athearn light USRA Mike in the Frisco colors - the
4000's.
We'll see how that turns out.

I see the Bachmann 4-8-2 will be available as a NC&StL as well as a
MoP. I'm
sure I'll select one of those two roads if I get one of the Mountains.

You seem to be a Frisco fan. Why not detail one for SLSF nos. 1500-1529?
While they generally are not considered a USRA light 4-8-2 copy, I
believe they are similarly sized. You would need a new tender
(12-wheel), and probably should change the cab and some other details,
but I think it would work.

Jack

Brad Bourbina wrote:

The Bachmann Mountain will be MOPAC??????? WHOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay...I'll try to contain my excitement...does the Bachmann website have a
picture of the upcoming Mountain?

A 'so-so' picture. Have a look at

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/bachmann/mainpage/start.html

I grabbed that URL whilst looking at the picture. If it doesn't take
you there it is lurking under the 'What's New' button.




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Christchurch, New Zealand
Tramway Preservation and NZR 0 gauge trains and a little H0 Espee are
at:
http://DownUnder.Railfan.net

Thanks Nelson...comparing it to the photos in Mopac Power, it looks REALLY
good...that intro price is a little scary..but it is a lot better than $400
minimum for brass...regardless...looks like yet another winner...


Brad Bourbina


Nelson Kennedy <nelsonk@chch.planet.org.nz> wrote:
From: Nelson Kennedy <nelsonk@chch.planet.org.nz>

Brad Bourbina wrote:

The Bachmann Mountain will be MOPAC??????? WHOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay...I'll try to contain my excitement...does the Bachmann website have a
picture of the upcoming Mountain?

A 'so-so' picture. Have a look at

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/bachmann/mainpage/start.html

I grabbed that URL whilst looking at the picture. If it doesn't take
you there it is lurking under the 'What's New' button.




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Christchurch, New Zealand
Tramway Preservation and NZR 0 gauge trains and a little H0 Espee are
at:
http://DownUnder.Railfan.net

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The Bachmann Mountain will be MOPAC??????? WHOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay...I'll try to contain my excitement...does the Bachmann website have a
picture of the upcoming Mountain? First Athearn...which from what I have
seen, that 2-8-2 will look great, to the new Bachmann Consolidation, which a
friend of mine purchased today (an undec. no less), the Mopac is getting
wonderful recognition in the reasonably-priced steam category, which is great
to see.

Brad Bourbina


I see the Bachmann 4-8-2 will be available as a NC&StL as well as a MoP. I'm
sure I'll select one of those two roads if I get one of the Mountains.

Look forward to the list discussion.

Ken
St Louis



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