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WNYSORC Coordination Repeater Listing 2021
 
 
As for coordination, well I can give you the steps to apply for coordination.  But as far as VHF and UHF Frequencies, anywhere in or about the GTA is basically a no go. There are no 2m pairs and 440 stuff is also packed with long waiting lists. Basically you will have to get a local ham that has coordination to give up a frequency they are no longer using, then you might be able to get it transferred an apply for re-coordination.

The 900 meg channels are quite abundant in the WNYSORC Band as there is not much activity on 900, so you are more likely to get a pair on 900 Meg.

I have attached the current repeater list so you can see what is coordinated. From this you might find something that could work and apply for the frequencies. 

You can go to the WNYSORC website:
www.wnysorc.net

Click on the DOWNLOADS button and then select the FORMS.
From there you can download the WNYSORC Coordination form in PDF (Fill-able).
 
Fill out the coordination form for each frequency pair you are applying for.

You can submit them at the bottom of the same page where you downloaded the forms.

Here are the basics on how coordination works:

You fill out the coordination request form and submit to WNYSORC.

The requested frequency is checked for any co-channel repeaters on the same frequency that are within 100 mile radius. If there is a current repeater in the WNYSORC area that is less than 100 away, the request is rejected. 

If there are no co-channels within the 100 mile radius, then we check the nearest adjacent channels above and below.

On VHF, adjacent channels are either 15 or 20 KHz above or below the requested frequency. On 440 and above the adjacent channels are 12.5KHz above and below. If there are WNYSORC repeaters within 40 mile radius, then the request is rejected. 

If the requested frequency has no co-channels within 100 miles, and no adjacent channels within 40 miles, then you are almost there. Depending where the proposed repeater is, the request may need to sent to adjacent Repeater Councils to make sure there are no cross coordination issues in their territories.

If they come back with no issues then your request is granted and your frequency is coordinated. If they do not grant cross coordination then your request to rejected.  The other councils also use the same rules (100 mile co-ch/40 mi adj-ch) when assessing the request.
 
So you can see there are a number of hurdles to overcome in order to get coordinated.

In addition to this, the territory of WNYSORC is also greatly affected by the Great Lakes as propagation across the lakes is like having no space over land.  In a lot of cases cross-coordination is difficult to get as so many repeaters are close to the lakes.

This is why getting coordinated anywhere in the Golden Horseshoe or the GTA is next to impossible on 2m and 440. 
 
Co-ordinations are also granted on a first come first serve basis. So if a request for a frequency was made, the first application for that frequency that meets the technical requirements will get the coordination. So you might request a channel but if someone else has requested the same frequency a week earlier, and it works for them, they may get the frequency as they requested first.  But, if the first request doesn't meet the tech requirements, and yours does, then you will get the frequency. 

I would suggest you have a look at the list first and see what is there.  From that, you might find something that might work for you.  If you find some frequencies that look like they may work (based on my description above), you should do some monitoring to see if these channels are not being used. After that if you think they might work, then you can apply for coordination. 

 

 

 

WNYSORC Coordination Repeater Listing 2021

WNYSORC website:
www.wnysorc.net

 

WNYSORC Repeater Handout 6-17-2021   (added to the file section) 

https://groups.io/g/HAMRadioOntario/files/WNYSORC-Repeater-Listing

 

updated:  JULY 2021 —  VE3WZW / VE3SP.COM - Andre

 

 

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