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Re: Translation Specification Exception with Hyperion 4.3.9; Hercules 3.13 ok

Fish Fish
 

Mike wrote:

Wondering if anyone else has run into this...
While IPLing ZVSE V4, right after Power begins initializing,
a "SYSTEM HAS ENTERED A HARD WAIT <====TRANSLATION SPECIFICATION
EXCEPTION" (see attached) occurs with Hyperion v4.3.9999.0-SDL.
This happens with a first level VSE or as a guest under VM.
It works fine on Hercules v3.13. Perhaps it is something simple
I've overlooked.
OR... perhaps you're using a version of Hyperion 4.3 that doesn't have the PIC 12 fix? (committed on 6/16/2020):

Revision: a774fc6fd5ae72a1d70aa8f7812d3dcfc7719f8b
Author: Fish (David B. Trout) <fish@...>
Date: 6/16/2020 5:07:19 PM
Message: Translation Specification PIC 12 (temporary?) fix
Refer to GitHub Issue #275(*) for details.

Please provide a COMPLETE Hercules log showing the *exact* version of Hercules you are using (v4.3.9999 is not an exact version; you need to build from a git clone of the repository, not from the .zip source file) as well as a complete copy of your Hercules configuration file.

It would also help to know the exact version of z/VSE you're using (and where you got it from!) as well as what the exact version of VM you're using too (and where you got it from).

Thanks.

(*) https://github.com/SDL-Hercules-390/hyperion/issues/275

Yes, the problem was reported against z/OS 2.4, but the bug is not specific to any particular operating system. It was a bug in our Address Translation logic which would affect any operating system using DAT, including z/VSE.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories
http://www.softdevlabs.com
mail: fish@...


Translation Specification Exception with Hyperion 4.3.9; Hercules 3.13 ok

Mike
 

Hi,

Wondering if anyone else has run into this...
While IPLing ZVSE V4, right after Power begins initializing, a "SYSTEM HAS ENTERED A HARD WAIT <====TRANSLATION SPECIFICATION EXCEPTION" (see attached) occurs with Hyperion v4.3.9999.0-SDL. This happens with a first level VSE or as a guest under VM.   It works fine on Hercules v3.13. Perhaps it is something simple I've overlooked.
 
 Thanks!
 - Mike


Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

Lucio
 

it WORKS!
I needed to add a RSL=PUBLIC parameter to the FCT entry for my file, it bypasses security check and eliminates NOTAUTH error

thank you for helping and giving hints

Il gio 7 mag 2020, 18:32 James King <JamesDK@...> ha scritto:
Are you running some version of RACF or other security sub-system?  You will need to allow access via CECI (Transaction name) and applications you will access it via.  Best to just allow all Transactions to access all Files, etc and then later adjust carefully.
 


-----Original Message-----
From: lucio.fassio@...
Sent: Wed, 6 May 2020 21:01:19 +0200
To: h390-dosvs@groups.io
Subject: Re: [H390-DOSVS] NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

yes i did, CEMT opens and closes it well, it seems an issue related with CICS security:
As soon as i find done time to try it I'll let you know

Il mar 5 mag 2020, 23:52 James King <JamesDK@...> ha scritto:
Did you add it to the CICS file Table?
 


-----Original Message-----
From: lucio.fassio@...
Sent: Fri, 01 May 2020 14:39:16 -0700
To: h390-dosvs@groups.io
Subject: [H390-DOSVS] NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

Good day to all,
 
I created a VSAM KSDS dataset and i can read and write it in batch, if i try the same on CICS (EXEC COMMANDS) i get a misterious NOTAUTH error, even with CECI transaction in CICS. There is very little on Google about it, does it ring a bell to you? Can someone point me to the right direction?
 
Thanks in advance.


Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?

rjcorrig@...
 

Hi René,

Thanks for the help. I haven't had the chance to go back and retrofit the VSAMIO stuff into my program, but your example compiles and runs cleanly, so I think that's the ticket.

I'll keep an eye out for your next video.

Thanks again,
Robert


Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?

James King
 

where is your FD (File Descriptor) which come prior to the Select statement?
 


-----Original Message-----
From: rjcorrig@...
Sent: Fri, 08 May 2020 16:46:45 -0700
To: h390-dosvs@groups.io
Subject: [H390-DOSVS] Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?

Hi all,

I've been playing around with the DOS/VS 5-pack running under the VM/370 6-pack on Hercules.

I have an FCOBOL program that will take cards representing books on my bookshelf and insert them into an ISAM file. I've already got the same code working against a VSAM file through the ISAM Interface Program. 

Now I'd like to take the mask off and change my FD statement to tell FCOBOL that no, really, this is a VSAM file after all. But I am getting compile errors.

Code:
020135     SELECT OUTFILE                                               
020137         ASSIGN TO SYS012-BOOKS                                   
020138         ORGANIZATION IS INDEXED                                  
020140         RECORD KEY IS OUTFILE-ISBN                               
020141         FILE STATUS IS CHK.                                      
Compile errors:
17     ILA1132I-E     INVALID SYSTEM-NAME. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
19     ILA1017I-E     FILE INVALID IN RECORD CLAUSE. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
The syntax was lifted directly from page 143 of the DOS/VS Cobol Programmers Guide: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/DOS_VS/cobol/SC28-6478-2_DOS_VS_COBOL_Compiler_and_Library_Programmers_Guide_Jun76.pdf 

Thinking the compiler wanted the device class and type, even though the manual says they are for documentation purposes only, I changed the name to SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS. I get fewer errors, but it still doesn't compile:

 17     ILA1141I-C     FILE ORGANIZATION FIELD INVALID IN SYSTEM-NAME.  SEQUENTIAL ASSUMED.
 17     ILA1015I-E     SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS INVALID AS EXTERNAL-NAME. IGNORED.
 17     ILA1017I-E     ORGANIZATION INVALID IN SELECT CLAUSE. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
I went back through the old mailing list messages, because something jogged my memory about VSAM not being supported under the FCOBOL compiler in the DOS/VS 5-pack, but I couldn't put the pieces together to confirm or deny.

Before I waste a couple of days on this, am I on a fool's errand? Am I stuck with just using the ISAM interface?

Thanks for any advice.

Regards,
Robert Corrigan


Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?

Harold Grovesteen
 

On Sat, 2020-05-09 at 06:40 -0700, rjcorrig@... wrote:
Thank you René, I will check it out.

BTW, your videos on the Moshix YouTube channel are awesome. I wish
they'd been around 8 years ago the first time I got hit with the
DOS/VS obsession. I've learned a lot from them. Thank you.

Regards,
Robert Corrigan
 
The first OS to which I had exposure was DOS/VS.  One of my early
managers would only run DOS/VS.  Why?  It was the OS with the lowest
overhead.  That shop made its money by offering online services.  It
was heavily CICS oriented.  We even did our development in CICS/VS.
 All of the bespoke applications (the ones we made money with) were in
CICS/VS with assembler.

Those were the days that even some batch business applications were
actually written in assembler.  I have always had a fondness for
DOS/VS.

So, you are not alone there.

Harold Grovesteen


Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?

René Ferland
 

Hello Robert,

Finally, someone who like DOS/VS as much as me! :-)  Glad you like my videos, there should be one soon about VSAMIO on DOS/VS.

All the best,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal


Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?

Simon Knights
 

Hi Robert,

I've never written any Cobol (my first language for Fortran on DOS on a 360/40), but looking at the manual page that you referenced, it has 'SELECT OUTREC', but your code has 'SELECT OUTFILE'. I know that might be a red-herring, but it's a difference that stood out to me.

Hope you get it solved.
Simon Knights.
UK.

On 09/05/2020 00:46, rjcorrig@... wrote:
Hi all,

I've been playing around with the DOS/VS 5-pack running under the VM/370 6-pack on Hercules.

I have an FCOBOL program that will take cards representing books on my bookshelf and insert them into an ISAM file. I've already got the same code working against a VSAM file through the ISAM Interface Program. 

Now I'd like to take the mask off and change my FD statement to tell FCOBOL that no, really, this is a VSAM file after all. But I am getting compile errors.

Code:
020135     SELECT OUTFILE                                               
020137         ASSIGN TO SYS012-BOOKS                                   
020138         ORGANIZATION IS INDEXED                                  
020140         RECORD KEY IS OUTFILE-ISBN                               
020141         FILE STATUS IS CHK.                                      
Compile errors:
17     ILA1132I-E     INVALID SYSTEM-NAME. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
19     ILA1017I-E     FILE INVALID IN RECORD CLAUSE. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
The syntax was lifted directly from page 143 of the DOS/VS Cobol Programmers Guide: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/DOS_VS/cobol/SC28-6478-2_DOS_VS_COBOL_Compiler_and_Library_Programmers_Guide_Jun76.pdf 

Thinking the compiler wanted the device class and type, even though the manual says they are for documentation purposes only, I changed the name to SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS. I get fewer errors, but it still doesn't compile:

 17     ILA1141I-C     FILE ORGANIZATION FIELD INVALID IN SYSTEM-NAME.  SEQUENTIAL ASSUMED.
 17     ILA1015I-E     SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS INVALID AS EXTERNAL-NAME. IGNORED.
 17     ILA1017I-E     ORGANIZATION INVALID IN SELECT CLAUSE. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
I went back through the old mailing list messages, because something jogged my memory about VSAM not being supported under the FCOBOL compiler in the DOS/VS 5-pack, but I couldn't put the pieces together to confirm or deny.

Before I waste a couple of days on this, am I on a fool's errand? Am I stuck with just using the ISAM interface?

Thanks for any advice.

Regards,
Robert Corrigan



Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?

rjcorrig@...
 

Thank you René, I will check it out.

BTW, your videos on the Moshix YouTube channel are awesome. I wish they'd been around 8 years ago the first time I got hit with the DOS/VS obsession. I've learned a lot from them. Thank you.

Regards,
Robert Corrigan


Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?

René Ferland
 

Hello Robert,
 
FCOBOL does not support VSAM datasets to my knowledge. But you can use the VSAMIO package that Jay Moseley wrote for the MVT COBOL compiler. You may go to this address: https://geronimo370.nl/vm6pext/dos-vs/ and download the VSAMIO zip at the bottom of the page to get a job that installs Jay's assembler module. The archive contains a job to assemble VSAMIO on the 5-pack, an other one to catalog the VSAMIO copy books, and an example of a FCOBOL program that loads records into a VSAM KSDS cluster. There are many examples of VSAMIO usage on Jay's site. You may e-mail me for more info if you wish.
 
Best regards,
 
Rene FERLAND, Montreal


Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?

rjcorrig@...
 

Hi all,

I've been playing around with the DOS/VS 5-pack running under the VM/370 6-pack on Hercules.

I have an FCOBOL program that will take cards representing books on my bookshelf and insert them into an ISAM file. I've already got the same code working against a VSAM file through the ISAM Interface Program. 

Now I'd like to take the mask off and change my FD statement to tell FCOBOL that no, really, this is a VSAM file after all. But I am getting compile errors.

Code:
020135     SELECT OUTFILE                                               
020137         ASSIGN TO SYS012-BOOKS                                   
020138         ORGANIZATION IS INDEXED                                  
020140         RECORD KEY IS OUTFILE-ISBN                               
020141         FILE STATUS IS CHK.                                      
Compile errors:
17     ILA1132I-E     INVALID SYSTEM-NAME. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
19     ILA1017I-E     FILE INVALID IN RECORD CLAUSE. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
The syntax was lifted directly from page 143 of the DOS/VS Cobol Programmers Guide: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/DOS_VS/cobol/SC28-6478-2_DOS_VS_COBOL_Compiler_and_Library_Programmers_Guide_Jun76.pdf 

Thinking the compiler wanted the device class and type, even though the manual says they are for documentation purposes only, I changed the name to SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS. I get fewer errors, but it still doesn't compile:

 17     ILA1141I-C     FILE ORGANIZATION FIELD INVALID IN SYSTEM-NAME.  SEQUENTIAL ASSUMED.
 17     ILA1015I-E     SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS INVALID AS EXTERNAL-NAME. IGNORED.
 17     ILA1017I-E     ORGANIZATION INVALID IN SELECT CLAUSE. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
I went back through the old mailing list messages, because something jogged my memory about VSAM not being supported under the FCOBOL compiler in the DOS/VS 5-pack, but I couldn't put the pieces together to confirm or deny.

Before I waste a couple of days on this, am I on a fool's errand? Am I stuck with just using the ISAM interface?

Thanks for any advice.

Regards,
Robert Corrigan


Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

James King
 

Are you running some version of RACF or other security sub-system?  You will need to allow access via CECI (Transaction name) and applications you will access it via.  Best to just allow all Transactions to access all Files, etc and then later adjust carefully.
 


-----Original Message-----
From: lucio.fassio@...
Sent: Wed, 6 May 2020 21:01:19 +0200
To: h390-dosvs@groups.io
Subject: Re: [H390-DOSVS] NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

yes i did, CEMT opens and closes it well, it seems an issue related with CICS security:
As soon as i find done time to try it I'll let you know

Il mar 5 mag 2020, 23:52 James King <JamesDK@...> ha scritto:
Did you add it to the CICS file Table?
 


-----Original Message-----
From: lucio.fassio@...
Sent: Fri, 01 May 2020 14:39:16 -0700
To: h390-dosvs@groups.io
Subject: [H390-DOSVS] NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

Good day to all,
 
I created a VSAM KSDS dataset and i can read and write it in batch, if i try the same on CICS (EXEC COMMANDS) i get a misterious NOTAUTH error, even with CECI transaction in CICS. There is very little on Google about it, does it ring a bell to you? Can someone point me to the right direction?
 
Thanks in advance.


Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

Lucio
 

yes i did, CEMT opens and closes it well, it seems an issue related with CICS security:
As soon as i find done time to try it I'll let you know


Il mar 5 mag 2020, 23:52 James King <JamesDK@...> ha scritto:
Did you add it to the CICS file Table?
 


-----Original Message-----
From: lucio.fassio@...
Sent: Fri, 01 May 2020 14:39:16 -0700
To: h390-dosvs@groups.io
Subject: [H390-DOSVS] NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

Good day to all,
 
I created a VSAM KSDS dataset and i can read and write it in batch, if i try the same on CICS (EXEC COMMANDS) i get a misterious NOTAUTH error, even with CECI transaction in CICS. There is very little on Google about it, does it ring a bell to you? Can someone point me to the right direction?
 
Thanks in advance.


Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

James King
 

Did you add it to the CICS file Table?
 


-----Original Message-----
From: lucio.fassio@...
Sent: Fri, 01 May 2020 14:39:16 -0700
To: h390-dosvs@groups.io
Subject: [H390-DOSVS] NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

Good day to all,
 
I created a VSAM KSDS dataset and i can read and write it in batch, if i try the same on CICS (EXEC COMMANDS) i get a misterious NOTAUTH error, even with CECI transaction in CICS. There is very little on Google about it, does it ring a bell to you? Can someone point me to the right direction?
 
Thanks in advance.


Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

Lucio
 

thank you Rene, I'll submit my question there

best regards

Il sab 2 mag 2020, 02:04 René Ferland <ferland.rene@...> ha scritto:
Hello Lucio,

I wonder if this discussion group:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/bit.listserv.vse-l

could be a better place to ask your question.

Best regards,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal


Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

René Ferland
 

Hello Lucio,

I wonder if this discussion group:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/bit.listserv.vse-l

could be a better place to ask your question.

Best regards,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal


NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM

Lucio
 

Good day to all,
 
I created a VSAM KSDS dataset and i can read and write it in batch, if i try the same on CICS (EXEC COMMANDS) i get a misterious NOTAUTH error, even with CECI transaction in CICS. There is very little on Google about it, does it ring a bell to you? Can someone point me to the right direction?
 
Thanks in advance.


Re: Links from the old H390-DOSVS Yahoo Group.

René Ferland
 

Scott,

I just change the settings so that all members can view and upload files.

Rene FERLAND, Montreal


Re: Links from the old H390-DOSVS Yahoo Group.

ScottC
 

Thank you for that, René.

Would it be possible to authorize file uploads to all members, by default, or at least me?  I would like to provide direct links to some files contained in the "files.zip" archive.

Thank you,
Scott


Re: Missing module?

René Ferland
 

>> Hope this helps!

Yes it did Fish and thank you very much. I was indeed able to print Hello World with one IOAREA and IJDFAZIZ and it just puzzled me that I could not do it with two IOAREAs and a WORKA.

Best regards,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

P.S. -- I'll have to check the pending messages for a while I guess. :-)