Topics

What are the issues we may face with Direct Adding members? #direct


Denise Colbert
 

Hi,
We're exploring groups.io to transfer our 1300 strong subscriber list, and I see that there has been a limit imposed on the number of direct adds before you have to wait for approval. Is there a place with more info on the Direct Add process on the whole? If not, I have a few questions...

  1. How many can I add in one go?
  2. Do members remain if I downgrade the Group to the free plan?
  3. Is it correct for me to assume that directly added members will be able to receive and reply to mail via their email clients without needing a groups.io account?
Many thanks!


starbucksnetwork
 

Denise,

I am also administrating a new group.  I would like similar info especially on #2.

FYI - i have just moved from Yahoo to Groupsio in December.  Our group is 550 strong.  Everything transferred very neatly.  Now it's just a learning curve about how to effectively manage the group and it's features.  i really wish there was an operators manual or something.  I did the transfer with the Groupsio bulk transfer facility.  

I believe, and I have no proof of this,  but as you add directly Groupsio builds a groupsio account as you go.  So between the invite and the member acceptance,  groupsio has everything it needs to create an account for that member.  At least that is the way it seems like it is working for me.

We are a non-profit finding job opportunities for experienced sales and marketing in the Twin Cities area.  


Regards,


Douglas

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:40 AM Denise Colbert <denise.colbert@...> wrote:
Hi,
We're exploring groups.io to transfer our 1300 strong subscriber list, and I see that there has been a limit imposed on the number of direct adds before you have to wait for approval. Is there a place with more info on the Direct Add process on the whole? If not, I have a few questions...

  1. How many can I add in one go?
  2. Do members remain if I downgrade the Group to the free plan?
  3. Is it correct for me to assume that directly added members will be able to receive and reply to mail via their email clients without needing a groups.io account?
Many thanks!


Frances
 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:40 AM, Denise Colbert wrote:
We're exploring groups.io to transfer our 1300 strong subscriber list, and I see that there has been a limit imposed on the number of direct adds before you have to wait for approval. Is there a place with more info on the Direct Add process on the whole? If not, I have a few questions...

  1. How many can I add in one go?
  2. Do members remain if I downgrade the Group to the free plan?
  3. Is it correct for me to assume that directly added members will be able to receive and reply to mail via their email clients without needing a groups.io account?
How to do direct add:
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-Members

1. See https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/20-Invitations-Limit
It is an anti-spam security measure. It is fast.
 
2. Yes, members remain if you downgrade to free. In fact, it is recommended that you get premium for a month if you have a large group of members to add all at once.

3. They must register with Groups.io with the email address. But it is automated when you direct add someone. If they don't have an account with that email address, they will get the necessary email that creates it.

Check out the help in the wiki. https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home
especially logging in - feel free to poach bits!

The section on group formation will help with group settings.
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

Frances


--
Moving to Groups.io (without easy transfer)


GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers


BMaverick
 

Until you mentioned job hunting, I thought the group was for coffee lovers of Starbucks. :)

Otherwise, Our group is 2,783 membership coming over from GeoCities to Yahoo to GroupsIO. 

Since the move, 91 have signed up.  That's not even a full 5% of the old membership.  Thus, this topic has my interest greatly.   Many of our group's folks are mechanics and not computer savvy.  Sure, they can read emails on their smarty phones and reply, but put them in front of a computer and they become lost.

Before the move from Yahoo to GroupsIO, folks asked if the membership needs to just be 'switched' without doing anything on their part.  Without funds, it wasn't possible to do this.

Hoping to hear how this goes.  I wouldn't mind entering a few dozen to a few hundred in batches.

BMaverick


Frances
 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:14 AM, starbucksnetwork wrote:
i really wish there was an operators manual or something. 
The GMF wiki is reasonably good operators manual!
There is a search box at the top of the page if you can't see what you want from the table of contents.
 https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home

And if you are just starting a group, see the quick start guide - https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

Frances

--
Moving to Groups.io (without easy transfer)


GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers


Duane
 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:14 AM, starbucksnetwork wrote:
i really wish there was an operators manual or something.  I did the transfer with the Groupsio bulk transfer facility.  
A few months ago, Mark (site owner) said he had hired a company to write a User Manual, but hasn't given any updates.
 
 
I believe, and I have no proof of this,  but as you add directly Groupsio builds a groupsio account as you go.  So between the invite and the member acceptance,  groupsio has everything it needs to create an account for that member.  At least that is the way it seems like it is working for me.
Anyone that's a member of a group has an account.  They won't initially have a password (and really don't need one if they don't want.)

As far as Direct Adds (or Invites), you can enter them all at once.  There will be a delay if more than 20, but often only a couple of hours.

Duane
--
GMF's Wiki: https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki
Help: https://groups.io/static/help
Search button at the top of Messages list
A few site FAQs: https://groups.io/static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions


 

Duane,

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 04:00 PM, Duane wrote:
Anyone that's a member of a group has an account.  They won't initially have a password (and really don't need one if they don't want.)
That's one thing I haven't tested, but your statement is true if one just uses only email to communicate, but if they ever want to visit any other group area (Files, Photos, etc***), then they would have to complete (i.e. add a password) to their GIO account, right?  This is my current understanding, otherwise someone could pretend to be that member and go there with no password.

(*** assuming the group is setup as such that access is to members only, not public)

Cheers,
Christos


Duane
 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 12:44 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
but if they ever want to visit any other group area (Files, Photos, etc***), then they would have to complete (i.e. add a password) to their GIO account, right?
No, they can have a login link emailed to them.  See https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In  Since it goes to their email address, no one can impersonate them unless they have access to the email address.  There have been a few cases that I know of where a member never had a password, but would log in now and then.  (If you visit at least once per 30 days and don't delete cookies, you don't need to log in again.)

Duane
--
GMF's Wiki: https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki
Help: https://groups.io/static/help
Search button at the top of Messages list
A few site FAQs: https://groups.io/static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions


Jeff Coleman
 

If you have already got a small number of members in a group using Invite, then use Direct Transfer to bulk add a lot more, does it ignore the email addresses of people who are already members?
Jeff


Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 11:03 AM, Jeff Coleman wrote:
If you have already got a small number of members in a group using Invite, then use Direct Transfer to bulk add a lot more, does it ignore the email addresses of people who are already members?
Yes, both Invite and Direct Add will skip over any addresses that are already in the Member List.

Bruce


Nivard Ovington
 

To clarify, do you mean by bulk transfer, a CSV file of subscribers to send an invite to?

Or using the paid for option which I cannot comment on as I haven't used it

If the former, yes it does

Its a very good system

If anyone is already subscribed, it does not send to them

After sending at the top of the invites page is a summary of how many were sent and how many weren't and the reason

At any point after the sending you can select "sent invitations"

Which tells you who were sent invites and when, and their status

Status could be Sent, Accepted , Failed

You can select any not Accepted and repeat the invite, or for failed you can remove them

An excellent system IMHO

Ah I see you have the answer on bulk transfer

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 17/01/2020 15:59, Jeff Coleman via Groups.Io wrote:
If you have already got a small number of members in a group using Invite, then use Direct Transfer to bulk add a lot more, does it ignore the email addresses of people who are already members?
Jeff