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Sharon Villines
 

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How do I figure out what the links are for these in order to add them back to the footer for a group with plain text messages?

When I click on the links, they do what they are supposed to do so I can’t see the link.

The new footers have my subscribers talking about how great YahooGroups was. It’s rose-colored glasses but it is the lack of a reply to sender that is the big complaint right now. To use the reply on website, they have to sign in and most have never done that.

Sharon
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Sharon Villines
TakomaDC@Groups.io
"Neighbors Talking to Neighbors”
Takoma Park DC and MD


 

Sharon
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How do I figure out what the links are for these in order to add them back to the footer for a group with plain text messages?

​Probably the easiest thing to do is to select ​Force HTML Emails in the Message Formatting section of your group's Settings page. Then you'll get the footer format of your example.

I'm not certain, actually, what happens if that's used in conjunction with Plain Text Only. It may be that it would first force the incoming message to plain text, then convert the outgoing message to HTML.

When I click on the links, they do what they are supposed to do so I can’t see the link.

​It depends on your email interface. You may be able to hover over the links and have the URL displayed in a status line at the bottom of the window. Or you may be able to right-click on them and select Copy Link Address (or something like that) from the menu.​

The tricky part is that those URLs contain a parameter which holds the subject line. So each is custom to the message, which you can't do with the group footer. And without that all their replies would be at the mercy of their ability to copy/paste the subject line.

The new footers have my subscribers talking about how great YahooGroups was. It’s rose-colored glasses but it is the lack of a reply to sender that is the big complaint right now.

​Odd. Since I don't see that in any of my Y!Group footers. Unless they're talking about Fully Featured Digests. In which case Groups.io is the same.
To use the reply on website, they have to sign in and most have never done that.

​Easy-peasy. ​Tell them to just use the Email me a link to login feature. Receive the message, click on the link, done. Logged in with no password or account setup required. They stay logged in for up to 30 days, so they don't have to do that for every reply.

​Shal

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Toby Kraft
 

Sharon,
The Reply To links are dynamically generated for each message.  It would not be possible to put them in a group footer.  You could request in the beta group that those links be added to the plain text footer.
I agree that both footers should provide the same links (odd that they do not).
More info on footers here if you haven't found it yet -> https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Footers#Unformatted-28plain-text29-Individual-Message
Thanks
Toby

PS I notice the Beta group uses plain text.  The GMF group uses html.  


Sharon Villines
 

On Jul 10, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Shal Farley <@Shal> wrote:
I'm not certain, actually, what happens if that's used in conjunction with Plain Text Only. It may be that it would first force the incoming message to plain text, then convert the outgoing message to HTML.
I’ll try all those options and see what happens. I use Plain Text because we don’t allow attachments. When I was using HTML people were not attaching things but dragging them into the email or pasting them in. My biggest objection personally is that the emails become image heavy and ugly. People begin emailing just to send images — like Facebook sharing. It gives them some thing to say.

Is there anyway to prevent that?

I have a program that scans email for viruses — and it finds 3-4 every month just on spam. So it’s still a problem.

The new footers have my subscribers talking about how great YahooGroups was. It’s rose-colored glasses but it is the lack of a reply to sender that is the big complaint right now.

​Odd. Since I don't see that in any of my Y!Group footers. Unless they're talking about Fully Featured Digests. In which case Groups.io is the same.
That was my response but I didn’t go check it.

To use the reply on website, they have to sign in and most have never done that.

​Easy-peasy. ​Tell them to just use the Email me a link to login feature. Receive the message, click on the link, done. Logged in with no password or account setup required. They stay logged in for up to 30 days, so they don't have to do that for every reply.
I think that would be just as bothersome for them. If I develop some of the website resources they might not mind because there would be more to go there for.

Sharon


 

Toby,

I agree that both footers should provide the same links (odd that they
do not).
The reason is that the Reply To Group and Reply To Sender URLs are particularly long and ugly. For example:

mailto:@tobykraft?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5BGMF%5D%20Footer%20Links

And that's with a short Subject line (this topic) with a lengthier Subject it gets longer accordingly.

It is almost tolerable if the email interface linkifies it for you, but many interfaces which will linkify http: URLs don't linkify mailto: URLs.

Shal


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