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Re: Unable to invite Transfer@groups.io #transfer

 

Being  an owner doesn't automatically confer all privileges. Go to your membership management page in the Yahoo group, find your membership (easiest is to select moderators) and set the required permissions. As Owner, you can change your own permissions to whatever you need.

Dave Rypma


On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:46 PM, Jason Masterman wrote:
Help,
I am trying to help move a group from yahoo groups that I did not setup. The original owner has made me an owner of the yahoo group but I still seem to not have full permissions of the existing yahoo group.  Many items say I do not have permissions, I can't edit settings of the old yahoo group, etc.  I can't find a way to invite the needed alias for transfers. Specifically, the ability to simply invite the 'transfer@groups.io' required to start the transfer process from Yahoo groups to Groups.io.   Or if someone knows what instructions I can send the original owner that might help?  Everything I search seems to not be available when I look in the group so unclear why being an owner doesn't allow the necessary operations?

Re: Topic duration?

 

If a topic is locked and a member uses the same subject line as a “new topic” does it start a new thread with the same subject line or is the same subject line rejected and the poster notified?
On a group I belong to, and another where I moderate, and topics are obviously not “locked”, when someone posts a subject line of “new member” or another commonly posted subject line, it often gets folded into really, really old threads  which have a lot of posts to plow through (some containing outdated information). On my own groups I specify lock times to avoid this.

Patti

Re: yG Privacy Dashboard download #yahooprivacydashboard #ioimportpl

 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:31 AM, Simon Child wrote:

I'm trying this, and getting error on the first message

Modification of a read-only value attempted at ./import.pl line 218, <GEN0>
line 5.
I fixed the bug. Please download the program again.

What is the benefit of rewriting the From line,
Mostly to avoid moderation of messages from non-members.

I have not created all the new members (our group is not premium and so I
cannot bulk add them) and I have not created map.txt. Is an accurate/complete
map.txt mandatory or optional?
Optional. If the email address is not currently subscribed to the .io group then From: line is rewritten but original From is inserted into beginning of message body.

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Re: Transfer Ownership of groups.io group?

Marv Waschke
 

Remaining an owner, but ceasing to act as one, may be a better alternative in many circumstances. Having more than one owner is insurance against orphaning a group when the sole owner is incapacitated. The difficulty with a co-owner is you must trust your co-owner with the power that ownership incurs. Since you already trust this new owner enough to hand over the group, perhaps you have found an ideal co-owner. You can step into the background and remain an insurance policy against untoward events.
Marv

Re: How do you delete individual messages?? #howto

Donald Hellen
 

One thing I might add in case this is one of your messages that you
wanted to delete.

I know of some group owners who moderate all of their own messages.
That way they have time to think about what they sent out and can
delete it before it reaches the group after giving some additional
thought to the message, proofreading it for grammar errors, or
whatever the potential problem might be.

That way it takes an additional action on the owner's part to review
their post before approving it. Of course, they could just approve it
without reviewing it but that additional step might be all that's
needed to make sure that the message is one that was appropriate and
intended to be sent.

Donald

On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:57:26 -0800, "Bruce Bowman"
<@BruceBowman> wrote:

Kerry -- You can delete a message from the online message archive by selecting "Delete Message" from the More "hamburger menu" at bottom right. As for the corresponding "individual emails," those have already been sent, and there is no way to retrieve them.

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Unable to invite Transfer@groups.io #transfer

Jason Masterman
 

Help,
I am trying to help move a group from yahoo groups that I did not setup. The original owner has made me an owner of the yahoo group but I still seem to not have full permissions of the existing yahoo group.  Many items say I do not have permissions, I can't edit settings of the old yahoo group, etc.  I can't find a way to invite the needed alias for transfers. Specifically, the ability to simply invite the 'transfer@groups.io' required to start the transfer process from Yahoo groups to Groups.io.   Or if someone knows what instructions I can send the original owner that might help?  Everything I search seems to not be available when I look in the group so unclear why being an owner doesn't allow the necessary operations?

If anyone has any suggestions I'd be grateful as we are trying to move the content before the December date.    For reference the simple instructions I'm referring to are in step 3 of this link https://groups.io/yahootransfer.

Which says : send an invite from your Yahoo Group to transfer@groups.io

Thank you,
Jason

Re: Subscribing to Groups via Website

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:04 PM, Dakotta Alex wrote:
Is there anyway to make subgroups have the web subscribe option? Or is it only a manual email option?
It is possible to manually create a "join this group" button (using the html gleaned from Admin>Promote as a template) for a subgroup, but it won't work unless the provided email address is already a member of the main group. I suppose you could set up the main and subgroup buttons side by side and have people fill them out sequence, but it wouldn't be very tidy. 

If you want people to subscribe directly to a subgroup via the web, a mailto link to the +subscribe address would probably be your best option. 

Regards,
Bruce

Re: Subscribing to Groups via Website

Dakotta Alex
 

Is there anyway to make subgroups have the web subscribe option? Or is it only a manual email option?

Dakotta 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 5:39 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:31 AM, Dakotta Alex wrote:
Can I do the HTML code for subgroups?
There is no Admin>Promote tab for subgroups.

For the Login, can I copy the HTML code and have it part of my site?
No.

To be clear, the html code provided is for a "join this group" button.

The only way to log in is via groups.io's own login page ( https://groups.io/login ).

Bruce

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Re: Subscribing to Groups via Website

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:31 AM, Dakotta Alex wrote:
Can I do the HTML code for subgroups?
There is no Admin>Promote tab for subgroups.

For the Login, can I copy the HTML code and have it part of my site?
No.

To be clear, the html code provided is for a "join this group" button.

The only way to log in is via groups.io's own login page ( https://groups.io/login ).

Bruce

Re: Subscribing to Groups via Website

Dakotta Alex
 

Thanks Bruce!

Can I do the HTML code for subgroups?
For the Login, can I copy the HTML code and have it part of my site?

Thanks,
Dakotta



On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 3:48 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 09:38 AM, Dakotta Alex wrote:
I noticed there was an area to copy HTML code to allow your members to join via a website...
It's in Admin>Promote.

...(and by a social login), where is that?
You can do a share via the same page, but social logins can only be done via groups.io's own login page at https://groups.io/login

I can't seem to find the instructions for that.
Select checkboxes in the "Form Options" block until the content of the Preview pane looks like you want it, then paste the html into your site.

Bruce

Re: Do Pending Members Expire? #membership #question

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 03:50 PM, Ann Wild wrote:
But it appears the groups.io allows two weeks and then automatically deletes the pending member if no further action is taken.  Is that correct?
Yes, and the email notification sent to the relevant group owner & moderators states as much.

Chris

Re: Do Pending Members Expire? #membership #question

Duane
 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 09:50 AM, Ann Wild wrote:
But it appears the groups.io allows two weeks and then automatically deletes the pending member if no further action is taken.  Is that correct?
Yes, pending members are automatically deleted after 14 days unless some one "Claims" the subscription.  See https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-Notice

Duane
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Do Pending Members Expire? #membership #question

Ann Wild
 

I have looked through the Help section, but cannot find an answer.  I had a pending member that appears to have been deleted by groups.io today after about two weeks.  Actually I was about to delete that person anyway because I had gotten no response from my private email to that pending member.  But it appears the groups.io allows two weeks and then automatically deletes the pending member if no further action is taken.  Is that correct?

Re: Topic duration?

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 03:20 PM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
Look in Admin>Settings etc and you should find this towards the bottom of this screen grab - assuming you are either an Owner or a Moderator!
Ah yes; in fact I referred to that particular setting in my post above, and my point stands. The default is with that box unchecked and the time interval set to "0" so I think my puzzlement (and Ronaldo's) is not unreasonable.

Chris   

Re: Topic duration?

Bruce Bowman
 

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 07:28 AM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
I see the default time is 100 days.
So that's the source of the confusion...the pre-populated number. The "default" is actually no locking at all.

We have had some discussion in our group as to whether it should be changed - some say increase, others decrease!  What do the ‘experts’ think?
I have my main group set up to lock after 60 days, but that's really rather arbitrary. The main reason that I have it turned on at all is to provide some visual indicator that the sort order has been inverted. This was implemented after a couple of new subscribers posted replies to 8-year-old messages.

Bruce

Re: Topic duration?

Peter Rawbone
 

Chris,

Look in Admin>Settings etc and you should find this towards the bottom of this screen grab - assuming you are either an Owner or a Moderator!



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Re: 'show quoted text' vs showing quoted text

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 08:51 AM, Sandi D. wrote:
Selective quoting is not apparent to all users. Maybe figuring out how to do it depends mostly on the user's system and experience.
There are some fine points of the site that only function well if you have a mouse cursor. Although you can still get around, in that sense it is not totally mobile-friendly; and as Duane said I suspect the app will address much of this when it is eventually rolled out.

Bruce

Re: 'show quoted text' vs showing quoted text

Duane
 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 01:43 AM, Richard Moore wrote:
So the issue is understanding the behavior of the GIO algorithms.
Although we don't have all the details, we've found some evidence for certain things.  It seems the biggest factor is whether there is anything added below the quote, such as a reply or even a signature.  In that case, the quote isn't hidden.  Mark has tweaked this several times because similar logic is used for a digest where bottom quotes aren't included at all.

Duane
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Re: 'show quoted text' vs showing quoted text

Duane
 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 07:51 AM, Sandi D. wrote:
For example, on my iPad, I don't have access to all the formatting tools that other systems display.
Are you in portrait or landscape mode?  The site uses responsive programming and will adjust what you can see at any time based on the size of the display.  I've found that landscape tends to show much more than portrait, including more options/tools. (I don't have a small device, but can simulate it by shrinking my browser window.)

As far as selecting text to quote, that's a function of the device, not the site.  The options on the site are the speech bubble that is for "Quote Whole Post", and highlighting with the mouse before clicking reply.  A lot of the site works best with a computer and/or a large screen.  The app may improve that, but I wouldn't expect too much due to the limited real estate on small screens.

Duane
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Re: Subscribing to Groups via Website

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 09:38 AM, Dakotta Alex wrote:
I noticed there was an area to copy HTML code to allow your members to join via a website...
It's in Admin>Promote.

...(and by a social login), where is that?
You can do a share via the same page, but social logins can only be done via groups.io's own login page at https://groups.io/login

I can't seem to find the instructions for that.
Select checkboxes in the "Form Options" block until the content of the Preview pane looks like you want it, then paste the html into your site.

Bruce