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Re: Visibility of Directory

Sandi D.
 

I gather since the members are also brand new to GIO, they either haven't logged into the your group's web interface or haven't updated the directory profile in your group or haven't selected the setting that allows their entered information it to be visible to your other group members. 

One of the monthly notices I set up for our group was explaining the Member Directory feature. I set up a wiki with screen shots to walk them through it. Even so, only about 5% have actually logged into our group and made the required changes. 

I do appreciate that owners and mods can view the entire directory regardless, but it does create a disadvantage for members. 
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Re: Editing hashtags in past subject lines #howto #moderators

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 07:45 AM, Lee Jackson wrote:
That's the case, although not with widget parts. So you're pretty much saying I'm stuck, then. There's no way to go back and do a topic search & replace for the # character prior to the import date, or something else just as useful?
Lee -- If you click on an offending hashtag, it will bring up all topics having that hashtag, so you can edit the affected subject lines (click the down arrow). 

There is no way to search on the subject line only while ignoring the message body.

Bruce

Re: Editing hashtags in past subject lines #howto #moderators

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 12:45 PM, Lee Jackson wrote:
So you're pretty much saying I'm stuck, then.
Not necessarily. Go to your hashtags and work through them; some may indeed relate to part numbers and the like, so leave them at the moment. Identify the others that clearly aren't part numbers (#Wow for example) and delete them. Once that's done you can perhaps work your way through the "part numbers" and slowly get rid of them; is there any real value in a message years ago about a specific part number or something equally not deserving of a hashtag?

Before you start it might be worth considering preventing your members from creating hashtags(if you haven't done tis already) so that they can only use ones that you are happy with and thus have set up yourself. Go to Admin > Settings and scroll down to Message Policies; set Hashtag Permissions to something other than Messages can ge tagged with new hashtags. Don't forget to save the change... If you don't stop members creating new and bizarre hashtags they will probably grow in number faster than you can get rid of them again.

Chris

Re: Monthly notice not going out

Sandi D.
 

I can verify that the monthly notice does go out for our group. We are a free basic group. We set two up on Oct 27, 28 and both went out to our group on Nov 1st. 
I have no explanation as to why yours isn't going out. 
The type is "monthly reminder" and the blue "Active" button is displayed. 

If I open the message fields I see "Monthly Reminder" in the first drop down field, followed by "Name" "Subject", a check mark in the "Active Message" box and then the actual message body.

Perhaps go back into your message fields and click the update link. Or delete it and start over.

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Re: Editing hashtags in past subject lines #howto #moderators

Lee Jackson
 

That's the case, although not with widget parts. So you're pretty much saying I'm stuck, then. There's no way to go back and do a topic search & replace for the # character prior to the import date, or something else just as useful?

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Re: Can I set questions for people requesting to join the group?

Michael Pavan
 

I agree it seems the "Pending Subscription" Member Notice feature was not fully thought through.

Some believe it was intended only to PROVIDE Additional Information TO applicants for Subscription, and given that's all it REALLY does they may be right...

Others use it to REQUEST Additional Information FROM applicants - I change its Subject to: "Additional Information Required".

Currently there is no way to automatically put applicants 'on hold' until they answer such a request.
Consequently, it is the first step in the workaround to do so.

Your suggestion that the "View Pending Member" link be attached to a "Pending Subscription" Member Notice reply is a good one.

Perhaps next year after the Great YG Migration (and probably the Groups.io app is rolled out), it can be one of several excellent feature requests to be brought up again and instituted.

I believe a better way to vet would-be subscribers should be second only to an Absentee Owner Succession feature and/or a restructuring Set Moderator Privileges (to prevent a Founder/Original Owner being deposed).

Hang in there, Groups.io DOES work on improving itself...

On Nov 19, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Jim Pruitt <jpruitt67@...> wrote:

I am curious why the pending subscription response does not include the link to the approval page for that member. I set up the pending subscription notice a couple days ago and today I had one response but had trouble getting to the approval page on my smartphone. After I finally got to the page and approved the member I noticed that the pending member was in the list (with others that did not answer the pending subscription notice) making it necessary to go back to the original reply and see what the email address was of the person that did respond."

Re: Can I set questions for people requesting to join the group?

Samuel Murray
 

On 19 Nov 2019 08:23, Shal Farley wrote:

Jim wrote:,

I am curious why the pending subscription response does not include
the link to the approval page for that member.
Because it is simply a reply from the applicant's email interface direct to the group's +owner address.
That is true, but it would be nice (and thus it's an RFE) if one could add such a link (or similarly helpful information) in the pending notice, so that when users press "reply" and the notice is included in the reply, it's there for the moderator to click. Of course, not all members who reply include the original message in their reply.

Samuel

Re: Monthly notice not going out

 

Jim,

Shal, you lost me. It is titled a monthly reminder.
D'oh.

So it is. I completely forgot that one had been added to the roster of Member Notices. I thought I had an example of every type in my test group, but I was missing that one.

So I guess I don't see what isn't there, for the wrong definition of "there". (Should have looked in the Drop-list for New Notice).

Odd.

That one sorts out of order if you click on the Type column. I wonder if that is a clue to anything. I guess I'll find out in a couple weeks.

Shal


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Re: Can I set questions for people requesting to join the group?

 

Jim,

I am curious why the pending subscription response does not include
the link to the approval page for that member.
Because it is simply a reply from the applicant's email interface direct to the group's +owner address.

Shal


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Re: Monthly notice not going out

Gilbert Coville
 

On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:12 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Jim,

> Why call it a monthly notice if it is not sent out each month?

Why call what a Monthly Notice?

"You see what you want to see, and you hear what you want to hear."
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Shal

I think he’s referring to the “Monthly Reminder” notice type.  See attached photo.  It was announced here: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/31208359#20999

I have one set up, but I haven’t had it set long enough to witness it on the 1st of a month to see if it actually works, or if it fails as Jim is seeing.

Gilbert

Re: Monthly notice not going out

Jim Pruitt
 

Shal,  you lost me.  It is titled a monthly reminder.  It says it is sent out monthly so what is it that I am seeing that is not there?  What I am hearing is that the monthly reminder does not go out automatically every month like the description implies ( "Message sent to the group every month" ).  Am I wrong?

Jim


On 11/18/2019 11:12 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Jim,

> Why call it a monthly notice if it is not sent out each month?

Why call what a Monthly Notice?

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Shal



Re: Signature/Advanced toolbar/Source code #htmlsignature

 

Peter,

I then previewed it using the eyeball icon. Everything looked fine
but when I sent a message out the formatting was wrong.
Does Groups.io add certain parameters I should be aware of?
Most likely the problem is that the formatted text editor strips many HTML tags and parameters when you save the text. I believe that is the same for the Sig text as well as message bodies, wiki pages, and elsewhere.

I don't know of any specific documentation about it though.

Shal


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Re: Monthly notice not going out

 

Jim,

Why call it a monthly notice if it is not sent out each month?
Why call what a Monthly Notice?

"You see what you want to see, and you hear what you want to hear."
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Re: moving from subgroup to main group #transfer #howto

Art Kocsis
 

You can easily verify that the Yahoo content is still there.

In that case, simply start another transfer of the main Yahoo content to the main (parent) groups.io group. Create a new GIO subgroup (with a different temporary name), and transfer the Yahoo subcommittee content to the new GIO subgroup. After you have verified that the new content is complete and correct, delete the current committee subgroup (remember to change its name to a unique random string first), and then rename the temporary subcommittee subgroup to its desired original name.

Should work but don't wait too long.

Art

Re: Can I set questions for people requesting to join the group?

Jim Pruitt
 

I am curious why the pending subscription response does not include the link to the approval page for that member.  I set up the pending subscription notice a couple days ago and today I had one response but had trouble getting to the approval page on my smartphone.  After I finally got to the page and approved the member I noticed that the pending member was in the list (with others that did not answer the pending subscription notice) making it necessary to go back to the original reply and see what the email address was of the person that did respond.

Thank you.

Jim


Re: Monthly notice not going out

Jim Pruitt
 

That seems to be an odd way to do it!  Why call it a monthly notice if it is not sent out each month?

Thank you.

Jim


On 11/18/2019 5:35 AM, Duane wrote:
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 06:49 AM, Jim Pruitt wrote:
set a monthly notice to go out each month and set it active
The only type of notice that can be sent automatically every month is the Group Guidelines type.  Make sure you have one and that you've selected the "Send monthly to group" check box.  There is no Active box for this type.

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Signature/Advanced toolbar/Source code #htmlsignature

Peter Keenan
 

Hello,
Is there any Wiki or Help info regarding html signatures? 
I basically copied and pasted the code signature I use for Apple Mail. I then previewed it using the eyeball icon.  Everything looked fine but when I sent a message out the formatting was wrong.
Does Groups.io add certain parameters I should be aware of?
I've attached the Good and the Bad.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

Re: Problem domain spamex.com

Duane
 

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 09:25 PM, Larry Finch wrote:
we have several members that send from the  spamex.com domain
It's probably one of the blocked domains since it issues disposable addresses.  There are several that have been blocked by groups.io for being major spam sources.  You could contact support to verify it.

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Frances
 

Is there a way to send screening questions to someone requesting to join the group, either automatically or saved in the group to be forwarded to the applicant? We just set up our new group today and could not find a way to do that. We used 3 screening questions for people applying to join our Yahoo group and continue to use them for our Facebook group. We would like to do the same for this new group.
Yes, there is a way to screen potential members - if your group is restricted.
Use a Pending Subscription notice.
See - https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-Notice

Lots more in the wiki - especially info about logging, changing email addresses, adding an email alias for sending, etc.
And info about settings - 
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home

Frances


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Re: Problem domain spamex.com

Larry Finch
 



On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 9:27 PM Larry Finch <finches@...> wrote:
We just migrated a group successfully. However, we have several members that send from the  spamex.com domain that groups.io reports as invalid addresses. I can send and receive from these addresses, I’ve run some DNS checks on the domain, as well as spam blocking checks, and all of these tests pass. 

I look forward to suggestions on how this can be resolved.

Thanks,
Larry

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